Media Stephen Thompson admits he will be "disappointed" if the UFC does not pay him for UFC 291

This is such bush league shit from UFC that no one is surprised by

They clearly wanna feed 40yo Wonderboy to the younger prospect
 
markg171 said:
How fighters prepare for their bouts is entirely up to them. They're free to train as much or as little as they want.
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Lol, ok, I only argue with people who hold themselves to a certain standard of logic.

Catcha

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Thompson is a POS who didn't want to fight to begin with. Who the heck refuses to fight for 2 pounds? Take a % of his purse money and go fight. Thompson is a lil bish.
 
Eh, listen...

respect this "honor" stance for Wonderboi.

There are payments for "passing" on 3 fights per year.

+20% of purse bonus (from opponent for missing weight), potentially more
He didn't fight, there is no money for... the "fight" show.

Which means,
HIS SHOW (fight) MONEY was MORE than his salary (paid out when passing on 3 fights per year).

We can assume the magical negotiation is ...

The UFC is negotiating with Steph to find a middle ground of salary vs show money.
 
markg171 said:
Giving #7 Wonderboy a standup opponent in #15 Pereira was them throwing him a bone.
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Michel isnt a pure standup fighter though. Hes attempted 3+ TDs in most his recent fights. Hes gotten everyone he fought down besides Ponzi. He was def gonna grapple Wonderboy even Holland took him down.
 
Wouldn't he have gotten 20% of Pereira's purse? I'm surprised he didn't go on with the fight its not like Pereira is a wrestler that would have used that extra weight..

Still doesn't take away from the fact that Pereira's unprofessionalism cause all this and I thought in these situations the fighter that made weight gets his show money.

I mean I could have swore we've seen this before and the fighter who made weight got his show money..
 
It's weird that people think that the people that support Francis and people that support Wonderboy are all in the same group.

I 100% supported Francis choice.

But I also 100% Wonderboy made a mistake here. Was it unfair ? Yes. Is it ideal ? Nope.

But the UFC seems to reward those that hold their line and since he is still under contract, I don't see this working out how he wants it to.

It sucks but it is what it is. Different situations. Different opinion.

In my pov, he should have held the line and tried to put on the performance of a lifetime then used that as leverage for his next fight. Now the inverse will happen IMO and this still (even overweight) was a good match up for him to put on a show.
 
Take the fight next time. Its 3lbs. Collect the extra 20% of the purse and show that you're the better fighter. It's not like Pereira was going to wrestle or use BJJ
 
wildchild88 said:
Lol, ok, I only argue with people who hold themselves to a certain standard of logic.

Catcha

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If training camps are part of the purses, then shouldn't fighters who take last minute fights be paid less? I mean, they didn't do a full camp of work like they were supposed to for their pay.

How's your logic working for you now?

They get paid for the bout itself and nothing else because of how dumb it would be to pay for the training the UFC has no control over. If the UFC was running the camps it would be entirely different.
 
markg171 said:
If training camps are part of the purses, then shouldn't fighters who take last minute fights be paid less? I mean, they didn't do a full camp of work like they were supposed to for their pay.

How's your logic working for you now?

They get paid for the bout itself and nothing else because of how dumb it would be to pay for the training the UFC has no control over. If the UFC was running the camps it would be entirely different.
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Ok fine.

1.) Every fighter I the UFC has an extremely high prerogative to win, pay is low, competition is high. Losing can mean extreme body and brain damage.

Therefore, every or 99% of fighters will need to train for a fight.

2.) In any industry with contracting, eg. Catering, you have to pay the caterer for preparing the service if you cancel at short notice. The caterer had to pay chefs / staff and buy food etc. Therefore they need to be compensated. Similarly, a fighter has to train extremely hard for weeks and pay trainers.

Some sort of compensation must be worked into UFC contracts for last minute pull-outs / cancellations.
 
wildchild88 said:
Ok fine.

1.) Every fighter I the UFC has an extremely high prerogative to win, pay is low, competition is high. Losing can mean extreme body and brain damage.

Therefore, every or 99% of fighters will need to train for a fight.

2.) In any industry with contracting, eg. Catering, you have to pay the caterer for preparing the service if you cancel at short notice. The caterer had to pay chefs / staff and buy food etc. Therefore they need to be compensated. Similarly, a fighter has to train extremely hard for weeks and pay trainers.

Some sort of compensation must be worked into UFC contracts for last minute pull-outs / cancellations.
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Fighters pay for their camps yes but not all camps are the same. Some fighters spend a lot of money on training and some not much at all because they can't afford it. Not sure how UFC can help here without a bunch of complex problems.
 
wildchild88 said:
Ok fine.

1.) Every fighter I the UFC has an extremely high prerogative to win, pay is low, competition is high. Losing can mean extreme body and brain damage.

Therefore, every or 99% of fighters will need to train for a fight.

2.) In any industry with contracting, eg. Catering, you have to pay the caterer for preparing the service if you cancel at short notice. The caterer had to pay chefs / staff and buy food etc. Therefore they need to be compensated. Similarly, a fighter has to train extremely hard for weeks and pay trainers.

Some sort of compensation must be worked into UFC contracts for last minute pull-outs / cancellations.
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I don’t think people understand that point. The effort that goes into a fight camp and the damage accumulated getting ready. Then showing up and making weight only for your opponent to miss it.

Wonderboy agreed to fight at the limit and is standing his ground. A lot of fans are in support of the UFC who takes so much from their fighters. It’s kind of head scratching to me.
 
Domitian said:
Fighters pay for their camps yes but not all camps are the same. Some fighters spend a lot of money on training and some not much at all because they can't afford it. Not sure how UFC can help here without a bunch of complex problems.
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Dude it would be in line for standard practice in contracting to have the contractor fully or partially compensated for a late pull out..

Eg. Give them half the purse.

UFC pays shit anyway..
 
wildchild88 said:
Dude it would be in line for standard practice in contracting to have the contractor fully or partially compensated for a late pull out..

Eg. Give them half the purse.

UFC pays shit anyway..
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Oh no I definitely think WB should get half his purse. Were on the same page with that. I just think if UFC got involved in fighters training and camps it would be problematic.
 
If every fighter got their 'show money' if their opponent doesn't make weight, then every fighter will not take the fight. Obviously it's not their fault they aren't fighting, but let's look at it from a business point of view...

A top fighter like Wonderboy must be making at least 250k to show. He had a choice to accept the fight and 30-40% of his opponents purse, or decline it. He declined it, he didn't want to fight someone overweight on the scales. I understand his reasoning, he did what he thought was best for him. But if every fighter gets their show money, especially top fighters, and not actually fight, then the UFC is potentially losing profit because fights will be cancelled every time someone misses weight.

I can see where Wonderboy is coming from, but can also see why the UFC wouldn't pay the show money if you aren't going to accept the fight, despite getting a percentage of your opponents purse.

Wonderboy lost to Till, who missed weight badly, so I 100% back him for not taking the fight, but I'm also thinking the UFC is a business, and has to put on fights. It's bad for their business if they pay show money, especially to top fighters, who declined to fight.
 
Thompson has been going on Ariel for YEARS and, when the issue of payment came up, he was quite demure and didn't think it was going to be an issue.

Just want to make that explicit for those who aren't going to watch, but feel like taking a position based on whatever takes are ricocheting around the forum
 
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