STARFIELD discussion

[idrankyourbeer]

Thanks man

I don't think I've ever used FSR 2.0. I think game devs have to enable it where FSR 1.0 works regardardless. I always found the latter pretty meh, often with terrible artifacts, or some weird smudging. I haven't noticed anything like that here and I'm playing on a 75 inch TV.

I'm not surprised it's chugging without any upscaling help. Like I mentioned in another post, when I got FO4 on PC a year or so after release, I had just upgraded to a beastly system. The performance was all over the place.

i remember around the fallout 4 launch. i had like a 4690k + 970 setup around that time. oh that thing was great in its glory days. then it it kinda fell into obscurity after more games started to take advantage of more cpu threads and eat up more vram.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Ya know how you can look up YouTubers old reviews for games with just a few clicks on their channels?

The exact same standard should be given for reviewers employed by publications.

Reviewers giving high scores for poor games & low scores for quality games should be on some kind of permanent record, like an actor's filmography on wikipedia.

And no pseudonyms.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

this game actually runs so much better in the indoor environments. fsr, dsr, depth of field, and motion blur off at 1440p with shadow quality and contact shadows turned down to high and the rest maxed out im getting 85-115 fps indoors, as opposed to around 58-90ish outdoors or in space.

its really not as bad as it could be i guess. my 4070ti absolutely crushes everything else ive ever thrown at it at 1440p but this one is really putting it to work.

i used a console command to adjust my carry weight limit. 150 from the start feels a little stingy, even in fallout and elder scrolls games it would let you start off with around 350 or so. and i guess i like to hoard. sure it might be a little cheap and dirty, but i really dont feel like going all the way back to my ship just to dump shit in there every time i explore an area. i mean shit its so easy to get overencumbered, there is literally shit all over the place and im still not sure what i should bother with keeping and what i should ignore. the menu is quite a bit clunky too.

 

[Slobodan]

this game actually runs so much better in the indoor environments. fsr, dsr, depth of field, and motion blur off at 1440p with shadow quality and contact shadows turned down to high and the rest maxed out im getting 85-115 fps indoors, as opposed to around 58-90ish outdoors or in space.

its really not as bad as it could be i guess. my 4070ti absolutely crushes everything else ive ever thrown at it at 1440p but this one is really putting it to work.

i used a console command to adjust my carry weight limit. 150 from the start feels a little stingy, even in fallout and elder scrolls games it would let you start off with around 350 or so. and i guess i like to hoard. sure it might be a little cheap and dirty, but i really dont feel like going all the way back to my ship just to dump shit in there every time i explore an area. i mean shit its so easy to get overencumbered, there is literally shit all over the place and im still not sure what i should bother with keeping and what i should ignore. the menu is quite a bit clunky too.

I get Sarah to carry my extra stuff but looks like companions have a carry limit as well. I don't remember that being the case.

Btw apparently some console commands will disable achievements

I've been running everything at ultra on my 7900XTX and haven't turned down anything.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

I get Sarah to carry my extra stuff but looks like companions have a carry limit as well. I don't remember that being the case.

Btw apparently some console commands will disable achievements

im not using a legit version right now so im not worried about the achievements.

but im trying to play as legit as i can. i know after i dump some skill points into shit and get better companions and maybe some gear with extra carry weight mods ill probably bring it back to where it should be. for now i just cant be bothered to deal with micromanaging my inventory every 5 minutes lol. id rather just raid the fuck out of a bunch of places and then deal with it later.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

im kinda bummed that my elite series 2 controller has annoying stick drift. i barely ever used the thing, but it would be so nice to have the extra toggle buttons in the back that i can use for crouch and jump/boosters. it made it so much easier to fly around with in destiny 2, and it feels like im kinda missing out on that by not using the controller but the drift on the analog stick makes it too annoying to play with i dont know how to fix it or have the tools to open up the shell. and it's probably above my level of tinkering with.

not sure if i want to take a gamble on another controller and end up with the same result after maybe a hundred or so hours of light use, but for a game like this it would be nice to have. i dont really care much for mouse and keyboard as my wrists start to hurt after just a few hours of gaming. its something ive been dealing with for a while now, so i tend to just stick with using controllers whenever i can because it doesnt bother my hands as much.

 

[JayPettryMMA]

So, my 1070 isn't going to be able to give me much from Starfield, huh? What should I upgrade to that won't break the bank? Meaning, please don't suggest a 4080 or something silly, I'm not throwing 1,200 bucks for a video card when I built this computer from scratch for 800.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

So, my 1070 isn't going to be able to give me much from Starfield, huh? What should I upgrade to that won't break the bank? Meaning, please don't suggest a 4080 or something silly, I'm not throwing 1,200 bucks for a video card when I built this computer from scratch for 800.

*editing my post cause its so damn long and youve already replied to it.

 

[JayPettryMMA]

depends on what cpu and kind of power supply would be as to what kind of gpu you should pair with it. and then theres the logistics of fitting it in your case and all. i mean unless youre just going for a straight up resolution upgrade, theres no sense of going with a newer gpu if your cpu will also struggle with the game. the bottleneck wouldnt really bring alot of benefit to you in most games, depending on what you are using

if you have a fairly modern i7 you should be good to go, and it might be worth looking into the used market for like a 3060ti or 3070 or a 6700xt/6800xt or whatever you can get on the cheap and that will at least be able to run the game a bit more respectably and you wouldnt have to break the bank. but you have to trust the seller that he didnt mine the card out or whatever. it depends how much money you are willing to spend. if youre using like an older i5 or something youre gonna end up bottlenecked and running at sub 30 fps regardless of whatever gpu you put in there and at that point it might be worth looking at a new build. and if you want a newer generation card, youre gonna have to shell out a fair bit.


id suggest trying a month of game pass just to see if this game can run well enough for you to play. at least before you commit to any serious hardware upgrades. and everybody has their own standards of whats playable and whats not acceptable. if its good enough for you, you might be able to just get by. but right now the 1080 is looking like its going to struggle a little bit, and depending on your cpu that might hamper your potential upgrades. right now they are calling for a minimum i7-6700k or amd equivalent just to be able to play this game. i7-10600k is recommended. so its not exactly calling for a weaker cpu either. i mean if you aint got a decent i7, you're probably not going to ever see 30+ fps on there anyways, even if you threw a 4090 in there.

personally i wouldnt go and commit to any upgrades just yet. we never know if bethesda might further optimize the game and nvidia puts out some better drivers or whatever it is. if its a game you feel like you really need to play, just grab a month of game pass and see how it runs for you. maybe in a while they will improve on the game engine, but for now older systems are really going to struggle with this one. and then theres always the option of buying a series x off someone just to play the game and suffer with the console performance.

CPU's a Ryzen 7 3700X. Power Supply's a 750 watt so I have plenty to work with. 32 gigs of ddr4 ram so nothing to worry about there. Tons of space on my SSD. The bottleneck I think is my 1070.

 

[Bob Gray]

Got a handful of hours in the morning and really enjoying it. The only real complaint I have is map navigation. Jumping through menus to get to the proper location and just straight up bad world map.

Hand full of experiences with glitched out AI navigation. Enemies jumping through ceilings is a minor annoyance but was doing a quest and I needed to follow an NPC into a secured area. The NPC got up from her chair and walked in the corner of the room in a small cubby between the wall and a filing cabinet, kicked over a garbage can and proceeded to get stuck in the corner. She kept trying to walk out between kept walking into the walls, cabinet, or getting her path tripped up by the garbage can on the floor. It took a few minutes of nudging her out of the corner before she continued on the right path.

The lack of map navigation isn't bugging me as much as I thought it would. But I would kill for a mod where I could have more than 1 quest mav point up at one time. Seems like a really odd thing to leave out.

 

[Slobodan]

So, my 1070 isn't going to be able to give me much from Starfield, huh? What should I upgrade to that won't break the bank? Meaning, please don't suggest a 4080 or something silly, I'm not throwing 1,200 bucks for a video card when I built this computer from scratch for 800.

Yeah with the 1070 you're gonna have a bad time

CPU's a Ryzen 7 3700X. Power Supply's a 750 watt so I have plenty to work with. 32 gigs of ddr4 ram so nothing to worry about there. Tons of space on my SSD. The bottleneck I think is my 1070.

What resolution are you playing at?

I suppose try and get the 6800XT if 1080p or 1440p and you don't want to break the bank. Don't know hard it is to find new ones nowadays.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

CPU's a Ryzen 7 3700X. Power Supply's a 750 watt so I have plenty to work with. 32 gigs of ddr4 ram so nothing to worry about there. Tons of space on my SSD. The bottleneck I think is my 1070.

you know what, the 3700x isnt really that outdated yet. its still capable. you might just be able to get away with a gpu upgrade and still reap the performance benefits.

if it were me i would pony up and go for a 6800xt if i could find one affordably cheap. you'd be set for a while, at least for 1080p and as far as i know you can upgrade your cpu to like a 5800x3d or even like a 7800x3d or something down the road if you ever run into any major cpu bottleneck issues, and you wouldnt have to swap out your motherboard and maybe even your ram because they run on the same socket, so you have upgrade paths down that road too if you ever feel that your cpu just cant keep up.

a 6700xt would be a budget option as well as a 3060ti, whereas if youre going for a 3070/3070ti, that 8 gb limit of vram will hamper you down the road at 1080p, even in some games they already are. and a 3060ti/6700xt wouldnt really give you as drastic of an improvement.

i mean unless you wanna buy a new series gpu, thats probably what youre looking at. and the 4060ti and 4060 are practically meme cards because of their price tag and how similar they perform to their previous generation of models that they are supposed to be replacing. youre kinda getting boned in the AMD price tag department too on the modern end. aint no sense in going any older than a 3000/6000 series card. a 1080ti/2080 and even a 2080ti aint worth the small performance gain over the 1080 you have compared to how much youd have to pay.

i think the 6800xt would be your most solid upgrade path at this point. if you're really on a budget then it would have to come down to a 3060ti or a 6700xt and you wouldnt be getting any super drastic improvements but the games will still run much better for you than they do now. anything else below that tier really wouldnt really be a justifiable upgrade, and at this point i would take a 6800xt over a 3070 all day.

 

[JayPettryMMA]

What resolution are you playing at?

I suppose try and get the 6800XT if 1080p or 1440p and you don't want to break the bank. Don't know hard it is to find new ones nowadays.

I haven't bought it yet, because I wouldn't want to buy a game I can't play well without needing hundreds of dollars in upgrades. I did that with FO4, and had a crap machine that could barely run it on 1024x768. That was a bad time.

 

[Number11]

 

[HereticBD]

Fallout 4's shooting mechanics were pretty damn good, compared to previous FO games at least, but I still used vats most of the time.

I don't even know why it doesn't work as well as other shooters. The mechanics seem to be there, but there's something stiff about it all, where it seems like you just can't hit your shots where you want to in real time. Almost like there's a slight delay from trigger to target. If this game even made a minor improvement to that system, it should work really well.

 

[milliniar]

you know what, the 3700x isnt really that outdated yet. its still capable. you might just be able to get away with a gpu upgrade and still reap the performance benefits.

if it were me i would pony up and go for a 6800xt if i could find one affordably cheap. you'd be set for a while, at least for 1080p and as far as i know you can upgrade your cpu to like a 5800x3d or even like a 7800x3d or something down the road if you ever run into any major cpu bottleneck issues, and you wouldnt have to swap out your motherboard and maybe even your ram because they run on the same socket, so you have upgrade paths down that road too if you ever feel that your cpu just cant keep up.

a 6700xt would be a budget option as well as a 3060ti, whereas if youre going for a 3070/3070ti, that 8 gb limit of vram will hamper you down the road at 1080p, even in some games they already are. and a 3060ti/6700xt wouldnt really give you as drastic of an improvement.

i mean unless you wanna buy a new series gpu, thats probably what youre looking at. and the 4060ti and 4060 are practically meme cards because of their price tag and how similar they perform to their previous generation of models that they are supposed to be replacing. youre kinda getting boned in the AMD price tag department too on the modern end. aint no sense in going any older than a 3000/6000 series card. a 1080ti/2080 and even a 2080ti aint worth the small performance gain over the 1080 you have compared to how much youd have to pay.

i think the 6800xt would be your most solid upgrade path at this point. if you're really on a budget then it would have to come down to a 3060ti or a 6700xt and you wouldnt be getting any super drastic improvements but the games will still run much better for you than they do now. anything else below that tier really wouldnt really be a justifiable upgrade, and at this point i would take a 6800xt over a 3070 all day.

As 3700x is am4 without a full mobo and ram replacement 5800x3d or 5600x3d (if in us and microcenter is an option) are probably the way to go but many fairly inexpensive chip options are available now. But yeah 6800xt is a great inexpensive options unless you want ray tracing.

 

[HereticBD]

I find it hard to take that guy seriously after his "Witcher 3" review, where he played Mr. Contrarian, talked a bunch of shit about it, and then disabled his comments section and deleted his review, because he was getting "attacked" for it. As if he didn't realize that calling the swaths of people enjoying the game "morons", wouldn't net him some backlash. I still enjoy his content in general, but he's a bit of bit of a bitchy troll, who boils games down to one or two flaws he experienced in the 10% of the game he played.

Even in this review, he admits that he's played very little, because a lot of stuff is locked behind perks...because it's an RPG. May as well complain about the weapon crafting in FO4, being locked behind perks you have to invest in. He's basically complaining about an RPG being an RPG.

 

[rocketskates]

I heard that it sucks

 

[Slobodan]

I haven't bought it yet, because I wouldn't want to buy a game I can't play well without needing hundreds of dollars in upgrades. I did that with FO4, and had a crap machine that could barely run it on 1024x768. That was a bad time.

But what monitor do you have now?

 

[TestosterOWN]

Game kinda runs like shit but that’s usually how all Bethesda games are. No fov slider is also killing me. Gives me a headache. Games fun so far though. About 2 hours in.

also there’s not many advanced video setting tweaks you can go. Fkn gta 5 had like 80 things you can tweak.