STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

[deviake]

Haha. Sometimes I wonder if I could v/blog about this stuff. I don't know that I'm creative or ambitious enough to pull it off, but it actually does cross my mind.

 

[Big Brown Clown]

The thing is that JJ Abrams is a much less capable director than Rian Johnson. That’s what makes The Last Jedi so disappointing. The movie is not very good. And so I don’t have a ton of faith that Episode IX will be much better.

The Force Awakens was mediocre and carried by the fact that it was a carbon copy of a much better movie. Now that Abrams has to come up with something on his own, how good is it going to be? At best it will be ‘fine,’ but it will not amazing unless Abrams becomes a much better director over night.

And that’s the most depressing part.

 

[erhnamdjinn]

Thats the problem, once you go into detail and actually critique the movie it falls apart miserably. Turn your brain off and the film is meh on the surface.

exactly what I said in my review, if your not a starwars fan it was an ok movie, if you loved the old characters and starwars lore you will just get pissed of with this film, the more I think about it, just pisses me of more.

 

[Zazen]

Why is it that the Marvel side of Disney seems so incredibly well organized and Star Wars is so disjointed? It feels like Rian hated The Force Awakens and did everything he could to change things up. The problem is once he did something cool he never had the balls to go all the way through with it. Snoke died, that is a big shock but then we go back to Kylo being evil and Rey not wanting any of it. Finn sacrificing himself would have made him go out like a boss but instead they decide to save him for the next episode. There's got to be something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. It doesn't add up for me.

Funny thing is that Abrams now has to come back to direct the final film and Rian threw away a bunch of his characters. Probably would have made more sense to have one director for the entirety of the trilogy.

 

[deviake]

Why is it that the Marvel side of Disney seems so incredibly well organized and Star Wars is so disjointed? It feels like Rian hated The Force Awakens and did everything he could to change things up. The problem is once he did something cool he never had the balls to go all the way through with it. Snoke died, that is a big shock but then we go back to Kylo being evil and Rey not wanting any of it. Finn sacrificing himself would have made him go out like a boss but instead they decide to save him for the next episode. There's got to be something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. It doesn't add up for me.

Nail on the head.

 

[90 50]

i've read a ton of sci fi and never, EVER, have seen any character or alien race or whatever thing that has mastered space travel having trouble with fuel to function their star ships, except for that stupid shit on star trek discovery that functions on plant spores, shit ass new star trek

There was a stargate series that they had to continually fly thier ship through stars to refuel. But yeah for the most part no

 

[JAEGERX]

There was a stargate series that they had to continually fly thier ship through stars to refuel. But yeah for the most part no

i love stargate, specially atlantis but i can overlook stupid shit like refuelling for deep space travel for a good story, specially if its used as a plot moving device

 

[90 50]

Why is it that the Marvel side of Disney seems so incredibly well organized and Star Wars is so disjointed? It feels like Rian hated The Force Awakens and did everything he could to change things up. The problem is once he did something cool he never had the balls to go all the way through with it. Snoke died, that is a big shock but then we go back to Kylo being evil and Rey not wanting any of it. Finn sacrificing himself would have made him go out like a boss but instead they decide to save him for the next episode. There's got to be something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. It doesn't add up for me.

Funny thing is that Abrams now has to come back to direct the final film and Rian threw away a bunch of his characters. Probably would have made more sense to have one director for the entirety of the trilogy.

Yeah the my dicks bigger back and forth character fucking over hasn’t sat well with the fans

 

[RJ43]

Why is it that the Marvel side of Disney seems so incredibly well organized and Star Wars is so disjointed? It feels like Rian hated The Force Awakens and did everything he could to change things up. The problem is once he did something cool he never had the balls to go all the way through with it. Snoke died, that is a big shock but then we go back to Kylo being evil and Rey not wanting any of it. Finn sacrificing himself would have made him go out like a boss but instead they decide to save him for the next episode. There's got to be something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. It doesn't add up for me.

Funny thing is that Abrams now has to come back to direct the final film and Rian threw away a bunch of his characters. Probably would have made more sense to have one director for the entirety of the trilogy.

Doesn't have to be one director, but they need a solid game plan to follow. We've seen successful series with multiple directors; Harry Potter comes to mind, but they had a guideline to follow.

One thing that has become so abundantly clear is that they never had that here. To make matters wore they seem to have given Johnson carte blance to eliminate multiple plot points established in TFA and he didn't replace them with anything. To me that is the most shocking thing of them all. I honestly feel like I've been duped.

 

[90 50]

i love stargate, specially atlantis but i can overlook stupid shit like refuelling for deep space travel for a good story, specially if its used as a plot moving device

The stargate series where they were on that ship in unknown parts of the galaxy and as my favorite.

To bad it ended so quickly.

And they were on an ancient ship always tryin to fix something. It had a certain level of realism I lik d.

 

[90 50]

Doesn't have to be one director, but they need a solid game plan to follow. We've seen successful series with multiple directors; Harry Potter comes to mind, but they had a guideline to follow.

One thing that has become so abundantly clear is that they never had that here. To make matters wore they seem to have given Johnson carte blance to eliminate multiple plot points established in TFA and he didn't replace them with anything. To me that is the most shocking thing of them all. I honestly feel like I've been duped.

Hamil said they had lots of talks about what direction to take Luke and was pissed when they ended up going a different route.

It’s like they did have a continuous story but Rian said the hell with it. I’m doing space horses in a casino

 

[D3THRONED]

MILD SPOILER

Tbh I hope JJ gives the middle finger to Rian and brings back Snoke (hes got tremendous power obviously). Snoke ends up being some badass and starts wrecking havoc on the last of the resistance forcing kylo to ultimately choose the light side a la Luke and Anakin force projections talking to him saying its never too late to turn back. Would make it more interesting, because lets be real..no one wants kylo as the ultimate bad guy. (Adam Driver is my favorite actor in this saga)

 

[RJ43]

Apparently the Blueray release will have 20 minutes of deleted scenes. Perhaps some clarity on plot holes or characters? Nope. The following:

One of the deleted scenes to be featured is a scene with Finn, Rose and DJ on Supreme Leader Snoke’s flagship Supremacy, which acts as an extended sequence to the scene that made the final cut. There is also a “massive sequence” with Luke and Rey on Ahch-To featuring the caretakers, and a scene with Finn and Poe near the beginning, with Poe bringing Finn up to speed on what’s happening.

 

[RJ43]

MILD SPOILER

Tbh I hope JJ gives the middle finger to Rian and brings back Snoke (hes got tremendous power obviously). Snoke ends up being some badass and starts wrecking havoc on the last of the resistance forcing kylo to ultimately choose the light side a la Luke and Anakin force projections talking to him saying its never too late to turn back. Would make it more interesting, because lets be real..no one wants kylo as the ultimate bad guy. (Adam Driver is my favorite actor in this saga)

I honestly hope JJ completely jumps the shark and makes Dark Aunt Beru the mastermind behind it all.

 

[Hogey]

The thing is that JJ Abrams is a much less capable director than Rian Johnson. That’s what makes The Last Jedi so disappointing. The movie is not very good. And so I don’t have a ton of faith that Episode IX will be much better.

The Force Awakens was mediocre and carried by the fact that it was a carbon copy of a much better movie. Now that Abrams has to come up with something on his own, how good is it going to be? At best it will be ‘fine,’ but it will not amazing unless Abrams becomes a much better director over night.

And that’s the most depressing part.

Abraham is overrated, that his name is attached to original pieces is annoying, he coatails his writers originality and takes credit for it. He is cookie cutter as fuck.

He is great for Disney, he take their thoughts and lens flares the shit out of it.

Also his face is so fucking punchable

 

[Bob Gray]

Why is it that the Marvel side of Disney seems so incredibly well organized and Star Wars is so disjointed? It feels like Rian hated The Force Awakens and did everything he could to change things up. The problem is once he did something cool he never had the balls to go all the way through with it. Snoke died, that is a big shock but then we go back to Kylo being evil and Rey not wanting any of it. Finn sacrificing himself would have made him go out like a boss but instead they decide to save him for the next episode. There's got to be something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. It doesn't add up for me.

Funny thing is that Abrams now has to come back to direct the final film and Rian threw away a bunch of his characters. Probably would have made more sense to have one director for the entirety of the trilogy.

I was thinking about that too. Johnson is a great writer and director. I cant, for the life of me, believe he truly thought "Lets go Chrome-Dome" was a great line. I am incapable of believing this.

 

[minute bull]

"Having been a Star Wars fan my whole life, and having spent most of my life on the other side of the curb and in that fandom, it softens the blow a little bit.

I’m aware through my own experience that, first of all, the fans are so passionate, they care so deeply — sometimes they care very violently at me on Twitter. But it’s because they care about these things, and it hurts when you’re expecting something specific and you don’t get it from something that you love. It always hurts, so I don’t take it personally if a fan reacts negatively and lashes out on me on Twitter. That’s fine. It’s my job to be there for that. Like you said, every fan has a list of stuff they want a Star Wars movie to be and they don’t want a Star Wars movie to be. You’re going to find very few fans out there whose lists line up.

And I also know the same way the original movies were personal for Lucas. Lucas never made a Star Wars movie by sitting down and thinking, “What do the fans want to see?” And I knew if I wrote wondering what the fans would want, as tempting as that is, it wouldn’t work, because people would still be shouting at me, “F— you, you ruined Star Wars,” and I would make a bad movie. And ultimately, that’s the one thing nobody wants.

And let me just add that 80-90% of the reaction I’ve gotten from Twitter has been really lovely. There’s been a lot of joy and love from fans. When I talk about the negative stuff, that’s not the full picture of the fans at all."

 

[KhabibTheBeagle]

Heard a lot of mixed feelings about the film. Some of my friends really didn't like it, but I really enjoyed it, as I enjoyed the last two films of the new, new era.

The pacing was a little annoying, with a quick opening, slow first act, and then hitting the pedals and not letting up until the end.

Didn't dig the Rose character, at all. Found her to be annoying and she made otherwise tense scenes, feel trivial and silly. Her final act made no sense, and her last line was dumb as shit. Easily the new Jar-Jar Binks.

The best scene of the movie, for me, was the Rey/Kylo Ren/Snoke fight scene. Really fun segment, but I really wish they'd have saved it for the next film, as Snoke had so much potential to be a great villain, and his build-up felt wasted.

Also felt that they betrayed Luke's character, in almost having him give in to the dark side, and being responsible for the creation of Kylo Ren.

Thirdly, I feel a lot of trouble could have been spared, had purple-haired Admiral have divulged her actual plan to Poe. Am I missing something, or did it not make sense to anyone else?

Based on the sheer amount of fun I got out of this movie, I'm rating it 7/10.

 

[RollSonnenRoll]

I was thinking about that too. Johnson is a great writer and director. I cant, for the life of me, believe he truly thought "Lets go Chrome-Dome" was a great line. I am incapable of believing this.

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Another moment making light of the villains effectively killing any tension. Pulled me right out of the scene

 

[Rivait_15]

One scene I thought was cool was when Ren and Rey had the raining fireside chat and touched hands when they end the talk and show him on his ship he has rain drops on his hands.


If Snoke knew everything Kylo was thinking ect how did he not know or call him out on how he went soft and couldn't take the kill shot on his mother?

He wouldn't kill his mom and didn't let Snoke kill Rey but is going to take the helm of the first order and crush the resistance ? Face turn seems imminent be dumb if he saved her only to be defeated by her in the end again.