STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

[PRIDEWASBETTER]

This is actually what kind of intrigues me about the next movie. I'm wondering what they are going to do because Kylo Ren being in charge of the whole thing seems not really plausible. Someone mentioned that they might skip ahead 8 years or so which would be better as it would give Kylo time to grow into a true Sith Lord. He might end up being something different altogether. He did say he wanted to end the dark side, jedi, empire all of it.

Why not just make THAT movie!?

 

[Striderxdj]

Bored at work so I guess Ill go into SOME of the things I have problems with.

Spoiler: Spoiler

- the transition between movies was laughable. Despite multiple planets being blown up by the first order, killing untold billions... somehow, this isnt a means for the resistance to rally any worlds to support them. The destruction of just Alderaan was a huge rallying call for the Alliance, and proved that the "Tarkin doctrine" was a failure.
- How the F does the resistance get whittled down to 1 MC85, and some minor support capital ships?
- The banter between Poe and Hux was stupid. They were trying to invoke the "boring conversation anyway" scene from NH but it wasnt funny.
- The fact that Poe managed to destroy every gun on a dreadnaught solo is a joke
- The fact those bombers were shredded like wet paper by tie fighters is pathetic.
- The fact that a dreadnaught went down that easily... the Executor (The Super Star Destroyer) was a dreadnaught, and while it went down seemingly easily from the viewers perspective, it was primarily because it was pulled into the Death Stars gravity while they were powering up the secondary bridge)
- last second victory trope/ pyrrhic victory cliche demotion
- Lukes reaction to being given Anakins lightsaber... what the fuck was that nonsense.
- Luke being a coward crybaby
- Slapstick nonsense with Finn walking around leaking bacta all over the place
- Forced asian market money generator character who despite being a low ranking nobody, somehow discovers something major.
- Low fuel used as a plot driver. The resistance has like 5 ships left, but cant afford to fuel them... What.the.fuck.
- the stupid animals are gigantic wastes of budget money on unnecessary cgi. GoT doesnt use the Dire wolves because it eats up massive amounts of the budget, but scenes devoted to some frost foxes and those bird things? Why not, because stuffed animal toys.
- Chewbacca does NOTHING.
- Obi Wan cant interefere when fighting Luke us fighting Vader, but apparently Yoda can use lightning to start fires.
- Were supposed to believe that Yoda, Obi Wan, and Anakin appeared for a celebratory victory dinner, but played no part in the training of a new generation of jedi? Give me a break.
- The pointless mirror scene
- Snoke can telepathically join to peoples minds from across the galaxy, but noticing a lightsaber inches away from him is a hard task.
- How the fuck can the first order amass the funds and resources to turn the planet of Illum into a super death star, build countless Resurgent class star destroyers (bigger and better than ISD2's), tie fighters that are better than the ones the empire uses, endless amounts of stormtroopers, better versions of AT-AT's,and a mega class star destroyer... in Fu**ing uncharted space.
- Snoke was thrown away and wasted worse than Darth Maul... remove him from the series completely with a departure like that, and nothing.fuc*ing.changes.
- The casino/"f**k rich people, amirite?" Subplot was pointless
- Admiral Fembot is a moron for not telling anyone her plan
- Admiral Fembot stays behind to be a hero, and watches 80% of the transports get destroyed before doing anything (get in the line of fire since Im dead anyway? Nah, Ill just watch.)
- Apparently hyperspace, shields, life support and other systems cost no fuel, but coasting in sublight eats fuel like a Hummer hauling concrete.
' BDT's character must be the true dar side force master, since he knew things that he couldnt possibly have known, even Snoke and Kylo had no idea.
- The way Rey got onto the MSD... what the fu**. How would the Falcon not immediately be sensed by Kylo and caught in a tractor beam...
- Kylo's yo-yo back and forth was nonsensical
- Jumping into hyperspace at a basically makes any other strategy pointless. Hey look a death star... cool, send a few gr-75 transports into hyperspace aimed at its center mass from different angles, even if it doesnt destroy it outright, it will take years to fix it. Oh a star destroyer... send an unmanned Y wing into hyperspace aimed at the bridge.
- Lukes force projection ruse. (I expected him to go out like Obi Wan), neat. And then he dies. What.the.fu**.
- Luke trained with master yoda (for a few weeks at least, although its not truly apparent in the ESB movie) and could only lift a rock the size of a cinderblock failing to lift his Xwing... and wad exhausted by the attempt. Rey lifts hundreds of giant bolders simultaneously. With little effort. And no training. K.
- Forced love story, and aside from being completely stupid, that single action could have killed the entire resistance.

I could literally do this all day, ive only hit the stuff off the top of my head from one viewing. People just need to accept that this was a shitty star wars movie, as bad if not worse than the prequels.

 

[mushishi]

That fat asian chick pissed me off. She was so pointless and clearly a diversity inclusion.

Also saving Finn from destroying the rocket blaster was dumb.

I know, right? They should ahve kept the hot Asian chick instead.

 

[D3THRONED]

I still don't see how 6 people thought this movie was 10/10 (with no reason given). Either they are 12 years old or simply simpletons who will buy anything disney throws at them.

 

[Randy Trevor]

 

[GtehMVP]

Thanks. As for finding Rey a compelling a character, it's subjective of course. I find Rey compelling because whenever she is on screen I am drawn to her, I am vested in what she's doing and where her journey will take her. What will she learn in Ahch-To? Is she going to succumb to the dark side? Who are her parents (before the reveal)? How powerful is she going to be? It helps that Daisy Ridley is easy on the eyes and is very charming. Compared to the other characters like Finn, Poe, Phasma, Hux and Rose whom I don't find interesting nor care to see what they do next. Poe had potential as shown in TFA and the early part of TLJ but they ruined him with that pointless mutiny subplot and he had nothing to do in Crait.

I'll never begrudge someone for enjoying their perceived eye candy lol. I'm curious as to what happens with her too, I just think her journey there is bland. It's not Daisey's fault, she's just another poorly written female character. I don't know why writers are so afraid to make women as weak and pathetic as we all are at times on our life journey.

I have no issue with her being uber powerful. One Punch Man is the best written superhero in some time and he's the most powerful of them all. Flashbacks of weakness and his despair at having no challenge fleshes him out.

Anyways, I'm rambling. Rey is only one concern for how lackluster the Last jedi is. My biggest disappointment is Poe, he had great potential to be Wedge with an on screen story arc. I don't even know how I'd describe him after this.

Great review again bro, thanks for putting it together

 

[thomnasty]

I gave the movie 1/10.

You may say I'm being overly critical, but I have never watched a movie and had it leave such a negative impression as TLJ did.

I'm not going to write a full review at this time because there is far too much to critique. Instead, for the time being I will touch on my biggest gripe of the film...

Too much of film focused on terrible characters making terrible decisions. Poe, Fin, and Rose completely ruined this movie for me. Knowing that they, and the similar characters that are to come, are the future of Star Wars discourages me from any enthusiasm I used to have for the upcoming Star Wars films. If I was one of those actors I would feel ashamed of my role in all of this.

 

[Amerikuracana]

Max van sydow still played the best character so far in the new series. Ironic on multiple levels, given the tone of the last movie.

 

[Scott Parker 27]

In a way, this movie kind of reminds of the problem that the DC universe had with BvS and Justice League.
2 directors + 2 different visions = 1 shitshow
There is no way Rian and JJ were on the same page as to where the story was going. The shit that was set up in TFA could not have been meant to end the way it did here.

And now JJ is supposed to come back to direct the 3rd? They should have kept him on for the whole thing. How can you make a good story when you only get to tell the beginning, middle, or end of it?

Negative, JJ Abrams was the shitty film maker. He simply rehashed a new hope with zero backstory to any of the new characters. Rian was tasked with creating an original movie that was not completely thought out by disney and jj.

 

[Breakitdown]

Definitely the worst Star Wars movie.

What a laughable pile of gutter trash.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

Bored at work so I guess Ill go into SOME of the things I have problems with.

Spoiler: Spoiler

- the transition between movies was laughable. Despite multiple planets being blown up by the first order, killing untold billions... somehow, this isnt a means for the resistance to rally any worlds to support them. The destruction of just Alderaan was a huge rallying call for the Alliance, and proved that the "Tarkin doctrine" was a failure.
- How the F does the resistance get whittled down to 1 MC85, and some minor support capital ships?
- The banter between Poe and Hux was stupid. They were trying to invoke the "boring conversation anyway" scene from NH but it wasnt funny.
- The fact that Poe managed to destroy every gun on a dreadnaught solo is a joke
- The fact those bombers were shredded like wet paper by tie fighters is pathetic.
- The fact that a dreadnaught went down that easily... the Executor (The Super Star Destroyer) was a dreadnaught, and while it went down seemingly easily from the viewers perspective, it was primarily because it was pulled into the Death Stars gravity while they were powering up the secondary bridge)
- last second victory trope/ pyrrhic victory cliche demotion
- Lukes reaction to being given Anakins lightsaber... what the fuck was that nonsense.
- Luke being a coward crybaby
- Slapstick nonsense with Finn walking around leaking bacta all over the place
- Forced asian market money generator character who despite being a low ranking nobody, somehow discovers something major.
- Low fuel used as a plot driver. The resistance has like 5 ships left, but cant afford to fuel them... What.the.fuck.
- the stupid animals are gigantic wastes of budget money on unnecessary cgi. GoT doesnt use the Dire wolves because it eats up massive amounts of the budget, but scenes devoted to some frost foxes and those bird things? Why not, because stuffed animal toys.
- Chewbacca does NOTHING.
- Obi Wan cant interefere when fighting Luke us fighting Vader, but apparently Yoda can use lightning to start fires.
- Were supposed to believe that Yoda, Obi Wan, and Anakin appeared for a celebratory victory dinner, but played no part in the training of a new generation of jedi? Give me a break.
- The pointless mirror scene
- Snoke can telepathically join to peoples minds from across the galaxy, but noticing a lightsaber inches away from him is a hard task.
- How the fuck can the first order amass the funds and resources to turn the planet of Illum into a super death star, build countless Resurgent class star destroyers (bigger and better than ISD2's), tie fighters that are better than the ones the empire uses, endless amounts of stormtroopers, better versions of AT-AT's,and a mega class star destroyer... in Fu**ing uncharted space.
- Snoke was thrown away and wasted worse than Darth Maul... remove him from the series completely with a departure like that, and nothing.fuc*ing.changes.
- The casino/"f**k rich people, amirite?" Subplot was pointless
- Admiral Fembot is a moron for not telling anyone her plan
- Admiral Fembot stays behind to be a hero, and watches 80% of the transports get destroyed before doing anything (get in the line of fire since Im dead anyway? Nah, Ill just watch.)
- Apparently hyperspace, shields, life support and other systems cost no fuel, but coasting in sublight eats fuel like a Hummer hauling concrete.
' BDT's character must be the true dar side force master, since he knew things that he couldnt possibly have known, even Snoke and Kylo had no idea.
- The way Rey got onto the MSD... what the fu**. How would the Falcon not immediately be sensed by Kylo and caught in a tractor beam...
- Kylo's yo-yo back and forth was nonsensical
- Jumping into hyperspace at a basically makes any other strategy pointless. Hey look a death star... cool, send a few gr-75 transports into hyperspace aimed at its center mass from different angles, even if it doesnt destroy it outright, it will take years to fix it. Oh a star destroyer... send an unmanned Y wing into hyperspace aimed at the bridge.
- Lukes force projection ruse. (I expected him to go out like Obi Wan), neat. And then he dies. What.the.fu**.
- Luke trained with master yoda (for a few weeks at least, although its not truly apparent in the ESB movie) and could only lift a rock the size of a cinderblock failing to lift his Xwing... and wad exhausted by the attempt. Rey lifts hundreds of giant bolders simultaneously. With little effort. And no training. K.
- Forced love story, and aside from being completely stupid, that single action could have killed the entire resistance.

I could literally do this all day, ive only hit the stuff off the top of my head from one viewing. People just need to accept that this was a shitty star wars movie, as bad if not worse than the prequels.

<{monica}>

I hate this movie so bad.

 

[Breakitdown]

Negative, JJ Abrams was the shitty film maker. He simply rehashed a new hope with zero backstory to any of the new characters. Rian was tasked with creating an original movie that was not completely thought out by disney and jj.

And he failed supremely. Possibly the biggest blunder in cinema history given the IP.

 

[Striderxdj]

And he failed supremely. Possibly the biggest blunder in cinema history given the IP.

This. The scene in TFA where Rey pulled the lightsaber and the music transitioned perfectly into "burning homestead" brought out more feels than the entirety of TLJ.

 

[method115]

Definitely the worst Star Wars movie.

What a laughable pile of gutter trash.

Eh still think the Pthantom menace is #1. This is #2 though.

 

[90 50]

I'll never begrudge someone for enjoying their perceived eye candy lol. I'm curious as to what happens with her too, I just think her journey there is bland. It's not Daisey's fault, she's just another poorly written female character. I don't know why writers are so afraid to make women as weak and pathetic as we all are at times on our life journey.

I have no issue with her being uber powerful. One Punch Man is the best written superhero in some time and he's the most powerful of them all. Flashbacks of weakness and his despair at having no challenge fleshes him out.

Anyways, I'm rambling. Rey is only one concern for how lackluster the Last jedi is. My biggest disappointment is Poe, he had great potential to be Wedge with an on screen story arc. I don't even know how I'd describe him after this.

Great review again bro, thanks for putting it together

Yeah but one punch Man is meant to be a satire making fun of how powerful dbz characters have become and why they jack around instead of just ending fools.


Satama is funny in his own way though.

 

[90 50]

Will be interesting to see if Rian still gets to do the new trilogy after this.

It has to have the worst hate reviews of any movie ever.

They should tar and feather his ass

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

Will be interesting to see if Rian still gets to do the new trilogy after this.

Oh he will. TLJ is a critical and commercial success. They’re going to let him do whatever he wants. The 50% of fans that are having a meltdown (myself included) be damned.

 

[90 50]

Oh he will. TLJ is a critical and commercial success. They’re going to let him do whatever he wants. The 50% of fans that are having a meltdown (myself included) be damned.

It was at opening because everyone was so excited to find out who snoke was, where Rey came from and Luke’s return.

After the news comes out we’ll see if it has staying power and continues to have box office success like the others did for the following weeks. I’m doubting it


I see it dropping off at an alarming rate

 

[GtehMVP]

Yeah but one punch Man is meant to be a satire making fun of how powerful dbz characters have become and why they jack around instead of just ending fools.


Satama is funny in his own way though.

The whole show is a parody sure, but he's still well written. When the hell is season 2 coming out!

 

[90 50]

The whole show is a parody sure, but he's still well written. When the hell is season 2 coming out!

I e given up wating for it. I don’t think they ever planned to do another, it was just a parody that they had no idea would become so popular.

Some of the characters are so rediculous like bike kid.