STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

[One MMA Fan]

You know you've really lost all perspective when you're taking shots at Rogue One in some misguided effort to defend TLJ. It's a common phenomenon, so don't feel too bad.

The heck you talking about.

TLJ was a way better movie then Rogue One, they are on different levels and it's fine.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

You know you've really lost all perspective when you're taking shots at Rogue One in some misguided effort to defend TLJ. It's a common phenomenon, so don't feel too bad.

You say this a lot from Youtube commentators like Stuckman at the time. The problem for me is that these people are basically aiming at the lowest common denominator, explain cinema in the most simplistic way possible for the widest audience but the end result is that there holy grail becomes bland short term diversions such as these sequels. Rogue One actually showed something beyond this simple blockbuster 101 formula they hold as religion just as the original SW films did and naturally it needed to be attacked as a result.

From this forums perspective as well I would say its similar to people who glory in the UFC's financial success and its inner workings not actually in quality MMA.

 

[Mike]

He was subverting your expectations.

<[analyzed}>

 

[ChucksGlassJaw]

The heck you talking about.

TLJ was a way better movie then Rogue One, they are on different levels and it's fine.

You're not going to find many people who would agree.

 

[One MMA Fan]

You're not going to find many people who would agree.

There are plenty and most important the ones I care about.

 

[KnightTemplar]

The heck you talking about.

TLJ was a way better movie then Rogue One, they are on different levels and it's fine.

The Vader scene alone in Rogue One shits all over TLJ

 

[One MMA Fan]

The Vader scene alone in Rogue One shits all over TLJ

Nope.

Plus GE didn't direct that.

 

[Clippy]

 

[Eusung]

Did anyone post this yet?

 

[LuchaBear]

Kathleen Kennedy Saved Star Wars

It's impossible to overstate the importance of Episode VII. Disney spent a small fortune on Lucasfilm, and there were plans in place for an entire slate of new movies. Before The Force Awakenshit theaters, its fellow sequel trilogy installments had creative teams in place, and spinoffs Rogue One and Solo were in the works. If Episode VII failed to connect with audiences, it would have been a disaster. Few people understood that more than Kennedy, and that's why she worked diligently to ensure the movie was as strong as it could be. She convinced an initially hesitant J.J. Abrams (who successfully revived Star Trek) to direct, and commissioned a script rewrite when it was determined Michael Arndt's draft wasn't working. There was also a conscious effort in early marketing materials to distance Force Awakens from the prequels, embracing the tone and aesthetic of the original trilogy.

The end results speak for themselves. At the time of its release in December 2015, The Force Awakens was the most critically acclaimed series entry since The Empire Strikes Back and hailed as a return to form. It also rewrote the box office record books, grossing an astonishing $936.6 million domestically (a figure that will likely never be topped) and more than $2 billion worldwide. While some were quick to point out the obvious parallels between Force Awakens and A New Hope, the general consensus was that Star Wars was back and people were excited about the future. Kennedy also (controversially) wiped out the old Expanded Universe, relabeling it as Legends. While supplemental materials like books and comics aren't a requirement to understand the movies, the reboot made them more accessible for newcomers interesting in reading more. Also, all mediums would be united under one canon, creating numerous storytelling possibilities.

The first four films out of the gate all received positive reviews and collectively earned around $4.5 billion globally (surpassing Lucasfilm's sales price). Episode IX, hitting theaters December 2019, should be a massive box office hit and another proper cinematic event. Additionally, Kennedy has demonstrated she isn't afraid to take chances with Lucasfilm's prized possession. She signed off on Johnson's risky creative choices on The Last Jedi (whether one agrees with them or not, it says a lot they didn't play it safe) and pushed for the tragic Rogue One ending that killed an entire cast of new characters. Yes, filmmakers have to play by Kennedy's rules to stick around (as Lord & Miller will tell you), but a lot of the moves she's made are encouraging.

In the last handful of years, Star Wars has also captured the imagination of a new generation of fans, giving the youngsters of today tales in a galaxy far, far away they can call their own. This ensures Star Wars won't become a relic of the past as we get further and further from the prequels and instead continue to inspire viewers for years to come. Disney may be planning a slowdown after Episode IX, but they have the Galaxy's Edge theme park opening and Kennedy has the future stacked with more Star Wars content. Jon Favreau's live-action TV show, Johnson's new trilogy, and David Benioff & D.B. Weiss' film series are all exciting propositions that'll explore new characters and fresh stories outside the Skywalkers. The possibilities are endless, and it should be fun to see what Kennedy and company come up with.

https://screenrant.com/kathleen-kennedy-star-wars-franchise-george-lucas/

 

[Eusung]

Finn was not stupid.

Finn is still with The First Order. This Finn personality we know is a creation...made by General Hux and one of his best soldiers, Finn. Together they made this secret plan.

What General Hux did to Finn was wipe his memory and insert a good guy personality into him. The plan is to get Finn to infiltrate the Resistance....then when he gets them what they want...Finn is returned to the First Order and gets his memory back.

BUT THEN...Finn will actually refuse to revert back to his real self and joins the good guys for real in Episode 9.

It's ripped straight out of Total Recall!!!!!!!!!!!1111111 Cheap!!!

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Kathleen Kennedy Saved Star Wars

https://screenrant.com/kathleen-kennedy-star-wars-franchise-george-lucas/

The idea of Starwars as some kind of semi dead franchise that was amazingly revived to me is pure nonsense, if that was the case Disney would never have paid the vast amount they did for Lucasfilm.

I mean look back to The Phantom Menace that generated over $400 million in the US in 99 dispite having far more limited links to the originals and far from great fan reception. TFA on the other hand was a direct sequel to those films featuring the return of the original characters, the pent up demand here pretty much garneted financial success.

What I think you saw though is that Disney wanted a very safe return on their investment quickly, they'd hired a writer to come up with a script but when he asked for a year he was fired and Abrams hired to write things very quickly. It was basically a case of "come to Starwars and do what you did for Trek" with the same kind of formula. Again though I think we've seen the problem with this, Abrams Trek style has trouble sustaining a franchise after one film, its too insubstantial and focused on one off viewing.

In the case of Trek I think you see less antagonism because really that franchise was suffering from burnout anyway after two decades of hundreds of TV episodes and multiple films, just having a fun one off diversion instead was enough. With Starwars though you really had a chance to relaunch a massively popular franchise that was still relatively fresh with only 6 canon films, handing it to such an unambtious director was a massive waste IMHO and Disney are starting to feel the backlash of that now.

 

[One MMA Fan]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...targeted-by-russian-trolls-study-says-1148475

I always knew sherdog is full of bots, I just didn't know they are russian.

 

[Clippy]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...targeted-by-russian-trolls-study-says-1148475

I always knew sherdog is full of bots, I just didn't know they are russian.

Stop ghost tagging me

Tag me to my face not behind my back

 

[One MMA Fan]

Stop ghost tagging me

Tag me to my face not behind my back

Spasiba.

 

[Clippy]

I really don't get why people are so hardcore for this movie. It wasn't made for the fans ... or the casuals .. not sure who it was for.

But shit like this basically calling me a liar and telling me I should like a movie I didn't enjoy. I know how I felt when watching this and I believe a lot of credible posters on this site who also didn't like it.

This stuff makes me hate it even more.

 

[Clippy]

Every other movie in the world I can not like and walk away from but for some reason they DID A FUCKING STUDY on this one

Like we're all in the Illuminati and conspired against an otherwise awesome movie or something



Never experienced anything so retarded in my life

STUDY CANCER NOT THIS SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Clippy]

When I didn't like Terminator Genesys not ONE person jumped out at an alleyway to tell me I was wrong

 

[Clippy]

NOT ONE​

 

[Clippy]

A STUDY!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!

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