STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

If you have seen STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI, how would you rate it?


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Knows what? The Luke treatment was probably the best part of movie. Brilliant writing.

So brilliant it's caused an uproar with a large portion of it's fans who are not mentally brain dead enough into enjoying a 2 hour children's commercial.

Mark knows...apparently you don't?

I'd also suggest you probably liked that part in Jurassic world where the raptor fought off the T-Rex's back and then later had a "bro moment"...brilliant writing according to liljoe?
 
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A lot of the hype surrounding Star Wars franchise is mainly those teens who saw it back in the 70's. Who then became parents then brought their kids to prequels. And those kids are doing same with their kids with these trilogies. It doesn't do well in China, because they didn't grow up with it. Most of the audiences are going to the movies are watching Transformers and WoW because that's what they grew up on instead. I doubt in the 70's and 80's many Chinese saw the originals due to strict regulations. And in the 2000's it was probably the same. Those who saw Rogue One because of Donnie Yen were confused on the story line and put off during none Donnie Yen scenes. And then, they killed him off so his character can't be developed further for the Chinese audience....

If Disney was smart, they should totally capitalized on the Star Wars franchise in China by introducing a few new movies and characters to build from then slowly do a cross over with ours. Imagine something like Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon with light sabers or fight scenes like IP Man or The Raid using force? And when they cross over, there wouldn't be a need for Asian actors/actress to speak in English. Just use subtitles.
An idea that would ruin light sabers, martial arts, and the force all in one shot
 
... when a ten year old could do a useful rewrite of the script, you got problems

And my 14 year old daughter thought Rey should have joined kylo.. Not saying that had to happen, but her notion that one side didn't seem much better than the other was pretty accurate to me.
 
And my 14 year old daughter thought Rey should have joined kylo.. Not saying that had to happen, but her notion that one side didn't seem much better than the other was pretty accurate to me.
I think an emotionally satisfying ending to the arc would naturally be Rey seducing Kylo to the good side. A switcheroo in - universe
 
I think an emotionally satisfying ending to the arc would naturally be Rey seducing Kylo to the good side. A switcheroo in - universe

Yeah.. But this was the middle movie. The crazy ride to the satisfying resolution part. I don't think she's "right," but they should have done something, anything, interesting with all that.
 
Yeah.. But this was the middle movie. The crazy ride to the satisfying resolution part. I don't think she's "right," but they should have done something, anything, interesting with all that.
I cling up the hope that... is there a term for when you shoot to place the cue ball so as to prevent a good shot at anything?

I hope it's not that. I hope they can write a great ending.
 
I cling up the hope that... is there a term for when you shoot to place the cue ball so as to prevent a good shot at anything?

I hope it's not that. I hope they can write a great ending.

Rian Johnson snookered Star Wars.
 
Knows what? The Luke treatment was probably the best part of movie. Brilliant writing.

I kind of agree. Not brilliant but not bad. Luke struggles and gets very emotional when his beliefs are challenged in the OT. He became such a reverent and fanatical light side fanboy that seeing his best student heading towards the dark side should have made him spazz and become disillusioned, like it did in this script.
 
The problem is almost always writing. It's rarely casting or direction.
Good writers can save it.

Maybe. I don't think I've ever seen a franchise effectively sabotaged in this way.

I'm sure a good Episode 9 can be written, but Johnson caused a great deal of permanent loss to the story and characters with his script.
 
Great box office doesn't equal great film.
It's mediocre and kinda schlocky.
That wasn't my point. "Dethroned at the American box office for the 3rd week in a row" like @Big Brown Clown was saying doesn't mean the film was a failure, far from it.

Personally I gave The Last Jedi a 4/10 rating, and I agree with you that it sucks.
 
Maybe. I don't think I've ever seen a franchise effectively sabotaged in this way.

I'm sure a good Episode 9 can be written, but Johnson caused a great deal of permanent loss to the story and characters with his script.
In some part.
The old needed to go. In these sequels, they always feel shoehorned in and the story structure suffers as a result.
 
Here's the problem with you idiots, and I say that with love and respect. STAR WARS fan to STAR WARS fan.

If you don't like the film, there's no arguing that -- but if you're going to make up bullshit? You made that up. It's not in the film. You've drawn a poor connection. Of course someone's going to call you on it. And do you know why? Because what you're saying is like saying, "It's the boogieman." Whether you refer to Feminism, SJW nonsense, or the filmmakers trolling the audience -- you might as well admit you believe in the boogieman and that the boogieman is responsible.

When I ask, "So point out: where is the boogieman?"

I get shown a picture of a joke or a t-shirt, and you're like, "Proof of the boogieman!"

And when I say, "But that's a t-shirt. That's a memo pad. Neither of which are in the film."

You respond, "But the producer wore that shirt. The director held that memo. LOOK: boogieman!"

It's all your worst fears come true, but it's even worse than you imagine!

Because when there is no boogieman, it means you are the boogieman. Let's use an example you may already know.

Let's say you're in a thread and without warning someone brings up racism and how unfair the current system is. Has it ever occurred to you, that the person who brings up the racism... is the racist? You ever do that? There's your boogieman, right?

Yes, the concepts you refer to may exist, just like the boogieman may exist. But when asked to point it out, that's where things get a little hazy. That's where ad hominem attacks and sheepish retreats start to occur. Which is fine, I didn't really expect much from the "boogieman."

If you want to finally use evidence from the film, I'm all for that discussion. But, you can't say the existence of female characters equates the boogieman; that's a specious connection. Just because the characters are there, doesn't mean they're promoting an agenda other than the one stated: which is adding diversity.

Is Rey a Mary Sue? Maybe in TFA, but what did she do in TLJ that was so overpowered? Put Luke on his ass? Lift rocks? Break a lightsaber? I'm listening.

Is Luke an insult to the lore? According to whom? Mark Hamill, based on heavily edited interview footage? Your preconceptions? Lay it on me.

Is the movie boring? Maybe for you, but not for me. Does that make me an idiot for enjoying a brainless film? Really? What's that make you? A genius too smart to enjoy a movie?


Your theories suck and even you know that, that's why you're so angry.

It doesn't make sense for filmmakers to tank a film or insult their audience -- it makes no sense to limit the source of your revenue. There's no manufacturer that intends that. Every idea, concept, or reference invoked in a film is intended to bring people in not shut people out. That you would even conjecture any person or organization would willfully hamper its own profits is nothing short of saying, "LOOK: BOOGIEMAN."

Please improve for your own sake. Honestly, tho: there's only up from where you are.
 
I cling up the hope that... is there a term for when you shoot to place the cue ball so as to prevent a good shot at anything?


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"Albo gator it"



Like 3 people might get this reference.


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Maybe. I don't think I've ever seen a franchise effectively sabotaged in this way.

I'm sure a good Episode 9 can be written, but Johnson caused a great deal of permanent loss to the story and characters with his script.
Revenge of the Sith was pretty good. The Last Jedi is better than Attack of the Clones so there’s hope the third one will be passable.
 
Just wanted to drop in to say that this was a very bad star wars movie. Easily the worst ever. If anyone wants to debate the point I would be happy to go over some of it. No I was not a hardcore star wars fan I was more of a casual fan. I saw the originals quite a few times as a kid and enjoyed those movies and those characters.

I would also say that the last jedi is an example of a poorly made movie in general for many of the same reasons it failed as a star wars movie.
 
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