Movies STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS v.9 (Dragonlord's Review)

I dont think anyone, anywhere is really worried about star wars going up against avatar

Star wars is a cultural phenom...avatar is dances with smurfs. I know next to no one anywhere hyped for the sequal
 
Generate said:
I still can't wait to find out how exactly Luke blundered rebuilding the Jedi order. Because holy hell it sounds like he did a smash up job of being a failure.
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Dude never even finished Jedi school. What do you expect?
 
Bob Gray said:
Avatar will move. Bet on it.
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I'm sure it will. Disney has a partnership with the Avatar brand, so it would make sense they would want the movie to do well. They are spending around $500 million on the park alone.
 
Gregolian said:
In the now non-canon books it was an utter failure too. Jacen, Solo/Leia's son almost kills his own sister and Luke when he goes batty.
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Ya such an utter failure - hundreds of other Jedi and they still existed in the Legacy comics 139 years after ROTJ.
 
milliniar said:
Ya such an utter failure - hundreds of other Jedi and they still existed in the Legacy comics 139 years after ROTJ.
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And we're promptly sent to the brink of extinction again. All in all, while not a failure I don't think the Jedi order can be called a success either. Every time the sith rise up, the order gets its shit rocked.
 
I never cared much for the direction the EU went after the introduction of the Yuzhan Vong, so I stopped reading them. I read somewhere that Jacen chose to go to the dark side because logically there had to be a powerful dark side force user to balance out all the light side. That seemed stupid. Don't know if it's how the story actually went or not, but oh well.

I still have hopes that Luke or someone else will become a gray jedi and embody the balance of the force internally. L.E. Modessit did something similar in his Saga of Recluce with gray mages/druids that made a lot of sense.
 
Nomos said:
I never cared much for the direction the EU went after the introduction of the Yuzhan Vong, so I stopped reading them. I read somewhere that Jacen chose to go to the dark side because logically there had to be a powerful dark side force user to balance out all the light side. That seemed stupid. Don't know if it's how the story actually went or not, but oh well.

I still have hopes that Luke or someone else will become a gray jedi and embody the balance of the force internally. L.E. Modessit did something similar in his Saga of Recluce with gray mages/druids that made a lot of sense.
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I laughed so fucking hard at this post imagining you were referring to the European Union the entire time.

EU. I'm fucking dying.
 
"The Director's Cut" is a relatively new podcast hosted by the Director's Guild of America (DGA) where famous directors interview other famous directors about their approach to filmmaking, and it's goddamned fantastic.

J. J. Abrams and Lawrence Kasdan discuss the making of The Force Awakens:



...for anyone who hasn't heard Kasdan speak before, he sounds like a fucking serial killer.

That guy's voice is so goddamned odd, it makes me want to hide.
 
Finally saw it today. Solid 9/10. All the little things people have been nitpicking are ridiculous. Best star wars film since the originals.


Awesome pacing. Great cast, all the new leads were likable and charismatic. Lots of great nods to the old trilogy, while still having great new ships, costumes, characters, aliens, villains, etc.

I had a grin on my face the entire movie, I felt like a kid again for two hours. Can't ask for much more than that.

No boring ass council meetings, no wooden love story. This movie brought the feeling of ADVENTURE back to this series. I couldn't wait to see what happened next, and the next one is going to be even better.
 
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I'm on season four of Clone Wars.

There are things I like about the show, but I'm still really turned off by the animation style.

I'm glad I'm watching it but there are several episodes I flat out did not like.

There's some gold in them hills, though.
 
I saw it today for the first time in 3D IMAX. Visually amazing movie but there is nothing ridiculous about a lot of the nitpicking. The TS summed it up perfectly on page 1 ...
"The first half of The Force Awakens is a spiritual carbon copy of the 2009 Star Trek where the pacing is very rushed and frenetic with lots of people running around, and key characters meeting conveniently for the first time and bonding instantaneously. There's even a space monster chasing our heroes during the middle.

When others copy something from another movie, it can be considered either a homage or a ripoff. But The Force Awakens copying specific plot points from its own library, down to its narrative structure, is just lazy. Almost everything from A New Hope is getting a polished makeover - from a young protagonist in a desert planet being chased by an evil empire led by a mysterious, powerful figure, down to the heroes trying to destroy a planet killer base by exploiting a key structural weakness."


I don't see how any of that doesn't hold completely true in the Force Awakens. The pacing was extremely fast(rushed) and the structure of the story was basically a copy of A New Hope with some of the most convenient meeting of characters ever conceived in film. Movie opens with a RD-D2 like droid containing important info that the 'Dark Side' wants and meets up with the protagonist on a desert planet. Then we have a bigger version of the death star with the same singular weakness that can only be exploited by flying a tiny ship through a trench. Oh then there's Ryo Ken with the exact same fucking relationship as in the original with the father and son only reversed this time and they have a stand off on a tiny bridge . Homages everywhere....millennium falcon, chess game, bar..etc


I think that rush pacing actually works well when seeing an action movie like this for the first time in a theater because it's fresh and almost like an amusement ride. The downside I find movies like these tend not to hold up well in the long run once you've seen it and especially on a regular home theater.

With all of the flaws it was still enjoyable and thats the most frustrating part. I just felt they could have made this so much more and did something unique and captivating to further the Star Wars series but they played this very safe with the same plot and characters. What really saved this movie was the visuals, rushed but entertaining pacing/editing and I thought Daisy Ridley and Adam Driver nailed their parts. Side note, Kylo Ren was easily my favorite Star Wars character up until he revealed himself. I haven't seen the entire series to see how he plays out but I felt like screaming at the screen when they showed his reveal half way through. Such a cool mysterious character with the helmet on and the voice was spot on. When they showed him as the insecure kid it was like "fuck! I was rooting for that guy just to stay a perfect villain throughout"
 
Avatar has been officially delayed.
Dragonlordxxxxx said:
AVATAR 2 Won’t Be Ready for Christmas 2017

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Avatar 2, the first of three sequels to director James Cameron‘s 2009 3D sci-fi blockbuster, will not be ready in time for its planned Christmas 2017 release via Twentieth Century Fox.

The studio on Thursday declined comment on the delay, which individuals with knowledge of the situation confirmed. There is no new release date set for the movie, or word on the two other sequels, which Fox had planned to release in the same holiday corridor in 2018 and 2019.

It’s the second delay for Avatar 2, which Fox had originally planned to release by Christmas of this year. Cameron intends to shoot all three films in the trilogy at the same time in New Zealand, with Cameron and Jon Landau producing through Lightstorm Entertainment. Soundstage construction and some computer animation work is in the early stages, but a start date for filming has not been set.

Leads Sam Worthington and Zoe Saldana in 2014 signed on for the trilogy, which is expected to pick up where the original left off, though Cameron has indicated much of it may be set on a moon of the planet Pandora and underwater.

Another tipoff that the plan to release Avatar at Christmas 2017 was in jeopardy came Wednesday, when Disney shifted Star Wars: Episode VIII to Dec. 15, 2017.

The director is known for being a perfectionist and an advocate of developing new technology to advance the craft, both traits that could potentially delay the process. The delay could be caused by the underwater element, which is notoriously tricky and often expensive.

James Cameron’s ‘Avatar 2’ Won’t Be Ready for Christmas 2017 (Exclusive)

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No big surprise even disney with the massive domestic haul wouldn't put it up directly against a challenger of this magnitude
 
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