STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS Official Thread v.6

[RerouteToRemain]

I'm pretty sure Han said that Luke felt responsible for what happens to his students and just upped and left.

And yes, I agree as a trilogy they will be saving a explanations for later on.

Yeah I was pretty positive that Han said that but I couldn't remember so I didn't add it in. I'm sure there might be a little more to it as well.

 

[Lethal_Striker]

Not a single memorable moment? I guess Kylo Ren killing Han Solo is a forgettable moment? Some people hate on stuff just to hate on stuff. It's like they're determined to be unhappy.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

mace Windu is the worst casting I've ever seen in a movie.

And the pod-race!
By the way, there isn't a single memorable moment in the new one

Except for the millennium falcon chase scene on Jakku. Which was absolutely amazing.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Some of you idiots just don't get this movie do you.

You don't understand how the similarities are supposed to be there. It follows the trend of the movies.

It's not hard to decipher but some of you seem to be about as bright as the bottom of the ocean.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Anakin lives a humble life in seclusion.

Luke lives a humble life in seclusion.

Rey lives a humble life in seclusion.


Qui Gon is the father figure and killed

Obi wan is father figure and killed.

Han Solo is father figure and killed.


Honestly some of u are complete Fn idiots

The movie is supposed to be this way. And for good reason. Also this movie is a mixture of the original trilogy not just New hope.

I wonder if some of you even know what Star Wars is.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

It's pretty much a remake of A New Hope. A lot of recycled material.

Explain to me how phantom menace was any different.

The elements are all there. And this movie was a mixture of the original trilogy not just New Hope.

 

[shockaholic12]

Some of you idiots just don't get this movie do you.

You don't understand how the similarities are supposed to be there. It follows the trend of the movies.

It's not hard to decipher but some of you seem to be about as bright as the bottom of the ocean.

Get off your horse. You can have similarities without being so derivative you suck the suspense out of so many scenes. Again, no one gave a shit when the new Death Star fired, no one cared when it blew up, because that shit is not even slightly suspenseful nor exciting the third time. So don't base your 3rd act on it and expect the plot to work.

I would have loved to see the writers think of a unique, new threat this new empire could pose but they just seem like idiots because they make the exact mistakes the empire did.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Get off your horse. You can have similarities without being so derivative you suck the suspense out of so many scenes. Again, no one gave a shit when the new Death Star fired, no one cared when it blew up, because that shit is not even slightly suspenseful nor exciting the third time. So don't base your 3rd act on it and expect the plot to work.

I would have loved to see the writers think of a unique, new threat this new empire could pose but they just seem like idiots because they make the exact mistakes the empire did.

the reason the star killer base had less meaning had nothing to do with it being used for a third time.

It's becasue the movie needed to be much longer and not rushed . So things could've been explained better snd in more detail.

If that was done the star killer base would've been better.

 

[Big Brown Clown]

Funny how you come in here and it looks like its a terrible movie by the comments. Then you see reviews and talk to real people and its the complete opposite. So either people in here are angry at life, or people in real life are just 1000x dumber.

I don't think it's terrible, just mediocre. And that's my experience with a lot of movies. IMO you meet mostly casuals irl who always say, "Yea I loved it" as long as it has a more mainstream style and isn't aggressively bad. For example if I go by people irl Jurasic World is a great movie. Everyone seems to love it. Is that the same opinion you get online? Another example are 2 movies that get royally shit on online: Man of Steel and The Dark Knight Rises. Going by people online you'd think these movies are of the same quality as the Schumacher films but I've never met anyone irl that had a bad thing to say about them. And when both those movies came out I went out of my way to ask people their opinion on them if they'd seen them. All these movies like The Force Awakens are mediocre but will get praised irl by most people. The Force Awakens gets another bump from people because it's Star Wars and people are hyped just because the movie is out. So you'll get statements like, "Oh my god this is amazing. Best movie ever." A similar thing happened with The Phantom Menace.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

I don't think it's terrible, just mediocre. And that's my experience with a lot of movies. IMO you meet mostly casuals irl who always say, "Yea I loved it" as long as it has a more mainstream style and isn't aggressively bad. For example if I go by people irl Jurasic World is a great movie. Everyone seems to love it. Is that the same opinion you get online? Another example are 2 movies that get royally shit on online: Man of Steel and The Dark Knight Rises. Going by people online you'd think these movies are of the same quality as the Schumacher films but I've never met anyone irl that had a bad thing to say about them. And when both those movies came out I went out of my way to ask people their opinion on them if they'd seen them. All these movies like The Force Awakens are mediocre but will get praised irl by most people. The Force Awakens gets another bump from people because it's Star Wars and people are hyped just because the movie is out. So you'll get statements like, "Oh my god this is amazing. Best movie ever." A similar thing happened with The Phantom Menace.

Except in the phantom menace the characters were card board cut outs without any emotion or feeling whatsoever.

The movie told you to like them. Told you these people were friends. Never actually showing that to be true.

The leads in this movie are hard not to love. They have each other's backs and show emotion.

This movie is nothing like the prequels. Which are awful movies.

 

[shockaholic12]

the reason the star killer base had less meaning had nothing to do with it being used for a third time.

It's becasue the movie needed to be much longer and not rushed . So things could've been explained better snd in more detail.

If that was done the star killer base would've been better.

More time would have helped other things but face it, the death star is a dead horse nothing can bring back. It's futuristic alien Galaxy you can think of more than one threat.

Who wants to see rocky fight drago and beat him the same way a third time. Boooring

 

[Frank23]

Everything We Know About Star Wars' Post-Return of the Jedi Future

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[Prefect]

I am not going to say that this wasn't fun but it wasn't groundbreaking. It felt forced and flawed. The action and intensity was so much that there was very little natural character development. Saving Private Ryan was the same to me in a lot of ways. A visual spectacle void of much character development.

This isn't a bad movie and I am glad they are making more star wars movies. It isn't like the series came off the rail like with Prometheus or the last Terminator movies. Visually, this is some really neat stuff. JJ rebooted the Star Trek franchise in a crowd pleasing way but to some it basically meant that we probably will never see a slower paced Star Trek movie ever again. We also will probably never see a star wars movie paced slower like with the first three. Things change I suppose. The holy trilogy does have its own nostalgia and if you go back and watch the first one and maybe the third, you will find flaws and pitfalls in both which are usually ignored because people view all three movies as part of one big story. Maybe, this movie will turn out the same way.

If I were to compare it to another recent movie with a ton of action and low character development it would be Mad Max Fury Road. But that movie had a freshness to it in that it was a world that expanded in front of us with a lot of original ideas (bullet farm, milk maids, valhallia, blood bags, flame throwing guitars) Star Wars in comparison felt like a lot of visuals that didn't have the freshness or newness of Mad Max. Maybe, that isn't fair to the series because we have had Star Wars games and merchandise banged on most of us for our entire lives but if they wanted to make a visually stunning action movie with low character development I would have hoped that they would have brought in a lot of new ideas and expanded beyond what we have already have been accustomed to with the franchise. Probably, the thing I was most impressed by ,being an engineer, was the robot BB3 and that is because that was an actual robot and not CGI. That said, enjoy it. The success of this movie will open the doors to more in this franchise, which likely in my opinion will be better than worst.

 

[MUSTKILL]

The only character that stood outas Rey. Fin felt like a forced PC character that overreacted to everything. The lightsaber scenes were disappointing compared to Episodes 1-3. Whoever choreographed Episodes 1-3 needs to get rehired for sure. Literally wasted The Raid cast in some CGI mess. Think about it, THE RAID Cast with LIGHTSABERS? or just letting them choreograph ONE scene..
Missed fucking opportunity right there..
Just saying..
7/10

 

[Redhawks100]

Spoiler

Desert planets aren't out of the norm in the Star Wars universe lol are you fucking kidding me right? This is how I know you are just bitching just for the hell of it.

So if something isn't out of the norm in the Galaxy you can re-use the same setting in the same way in the same acts as previous films and it's fresh. Ok fanboy.

Young protagonist left on desert planet meets cute republic droid who just escaped the empire and calls them to action. Yea real original use of this setting and character development. Never seen it before.


Then protagonist meets reluctant hero partner and they must escape the empire in the falcon, can they fix it in time?

Han (sub Finn this time around) has to grapple with the choice to run or stay and fight. protagonist realizes they have force powers as republic realizes the spin off empire has a death star.

Protagonist joins republic battle to blow up Death Star. They fly a single x wing into its weak section. Boom. Bad Jedi escapes. Who could have guessed how that would have gone down.

Yep there are a few new characters and good back stories I appreciated but not enough to make up the constant re-hashing.

The droid didn't have a hologram of a Jedi, it was holding a missing part to the map in which to find Luke.

Whoa a map instead. The hologram was a little different. That makes this plot device totally unique and imaginative storytelling. Good call.

The First Order is an offshoot of the Galactic Empire lol we've known this before the film was released and it's pretty evident by the technology they use and the use of Stormtroopers. This isn't a Death Star considering the Death Star was an artificially made superweapon that destroys planets while the new superweapon was made from a planet and destroyed entire systems. It was a marked improvement from the originally Death Star, which aligns perfectly with the notion that The First Order/Snoke/Kylo Ren have a hard on for the Empire and Vader.

An off-shoot that coincidentally has the exact same power balance with the republic the empire did in 4-6 even after decades of battles, the republic blowing up multiple death stars and saving the Galaxy a few times. It's like everything that happened in 4-6 didn't mean anything as other posters said. Republic is still a rag tag group, first order although just an offshoot of the crumbled empire seems to have the same power over the Galaxy and republic the empire did before, reasons for this not explained well...yawn.

And lol at this Death Star being a creative idea different then the previous. Looked the same, blew up stuff pretty much the same, got blown up EXACTLY the same way. When they are making a battle plan the even show them side by side and they are totally similar besides size. Ask someone who hasn't seen the film what they think happens with this weapon and they could tell you. It was bigger yea, bigger waste of 3rd act screen time. Just a weak way to get all the characters to the fight. You really find this creative writing?

Spoiler

Considering Rey is a scavenger, it's appropriate that her homeworld would be a deserted planet.

A former Stormtrooper that turns against his own faction and crash lands on Rey's planet after stealing a TIE fighter. Yup, that definitely happened in A New Hope.

That wasn't when she realized her powers. So that's a fail.

So now a character with internal conflict is strictly ANH-like story telling? You're reaching.

No. Rey was captured and Finn used the attack as a way to be able to save her. They land themselves on the base itself to lay down demolitions, which lead to Poe, who was originally a Resistance pilot, to destroying it. It doesn't look similar to the Death Star, which was even shown in the film.

A little different? I'm not sure you've watched the film, in all honesty.

What are you talking about the same power balance? Do you know anything about Star Wars? Seriously, more reaching. Luke and team toppled the Empire, after his pupil turned to the Dark Side, Luke into exile while the First Order created itself out of the ashes on the Empire and used it as inspiration. We've known about the inclusion of Leia, Han, Luke, and other characters from the original trilogy and that there would be several tie-ins. Why would it be explained in the 1st film? There was hardly any explanation to the Empire's dominance in ANH, so why the complaints?

Doesn't look the same as it's built inside a planet and is 10x the same of the Death Star. Not to mention it doesn't take out single planets with a beam, it uses the energy of it's star to destroy entire star systems, which was mentioned in the film. Once again, since you're not the brightest... The First Order idolizes the Empire and Vader. They improved their ideas.

There is plenty of original material in this film but you basically use 20% of the plot to make it seem as if it's a reboot.

 

[Redhawks100]

The only character that stood outas Rey. Fin felt like a forced PC character that overreacted to everything. The lightsaber scenes were disappointing compared to Episodes 1-3. Whoever choreographed Episodes 1-3 needs to get rehired for sure. Literally wasted The Raid cast in some CGI mess. Think about it, THE RAID Cast with LIGHTSABERS? or just letting them choreograph ONE scene..
Missed fucking opportunity right there..
Just saying..
7/10

Finn is a forced PC character? Good god, this forum is fucking retarded.

 

[SaucyJack]

You'd pick TPM over TFA because of a lightsaber battle? Yup, you're all dimwits.

The prequels and their awesome lightsaber dances. Like watching people twirling glow sticks.

 

[Redhawks100]

Not a single memorable moment? I guess Kylo Ren killing Han Solo is a forgettable moment? Some people hate on stuff just to hate on stuff. It's like they're determined to be unhappy.

No, it's a weird form of narcissism.

Since it's garnering so much great reviews and reception, they want to be the people that "expose" it and go against popular opinion to try and say "Yeah, it wasn't that great and I proved it. I know real film-making"

 

[Redhawks100]

The prequels and their awesome lightsaber dances. Like watching people twirling glow sticks.

I liked the lightsaber battles in Revenge of the Sith and the Maul battle with Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon but besides that they were mostly pretty bad or meh.

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

The post definitely cements Sherdog as one of the worst forums on the internet.

Why are you here then, contributing to it being 'one of the worst forums on the internet' to the tune of 13 thousand plus posts since 2013? I think you're just red assed at people panning a film you enjoy (not sure if you've seen it, just assuming you have).