STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS Official Thread v.6

[fingercuffs]

Mal Reynolds so should've been a storm trooper if fucking James Bond was one. Come on.

 

[fingercuffs]

Mal Reynolds IS Han Solo.

 

[Nimrod]

Exactly. Star wars is dumb as fuck. ITs always been a kids movie but they went full retard with the last 3 that came out. Im not expecting anything from the new one. I dont even think ill download it when it hits the torents.

Yeah first three were super awesome, next three were shit, pretty sure this new one will be super retarded.
It could be as we get older we expect more ?

 

[ironwolf]

Yeah first three were super awesome, next three were shit, pretty sure this new one will be super retarded.
It could be as we get older we expect more ?

I dont know because the first 3 still sort of hold up where some old movies just dont hold up at all. I always use the neverending story as an example because when I was young, I loved it but I tried watching it when I was like 25 and it was unwatchable.

I could probably sit through the first 3 star wars films, the 2nd 3 though.....I walked out of the theater during phantom menace, tried watching the 2nd one and sskipped the 3rd one.

 

[Redhawks100]

Not surprised to see so much dumbshit analysis of the film.

The "it's just a remake" comments are asinine. Plenty of elements in the film are original while also paying homage to the original trilogy.

The First Order basically has a hard on for the Empire and the dominance Vader displayed so of course they'd use their ideas and improve upon them (which was shown plenty)

The film wasn't perfect but it was certainly better than the prequels and honestly better than ROTJ.

 

[Stargazer Rex]

I thought the movie was really fun, the only thing I didn't really like was Kylo Ren getting his ass beat by Rey so badly. I know at the end Snoke said he was going to finish Kylo's training, but Rey wasn't trained at all. Unless she is the Michael Jordan of Force users I feel she shouldn't of been able to do what she did so fast. God damn it, that was Darth Vader's grandson.

 

[esotamoc]

Update: December 16, 2015

Dragonlord's Review of STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS (No Spoilers)

Entertaining and a nostalgic blast from the past to see old characters, references and iconic spaceships from the original Star Wars trilogy but it's not the masterpiece we were all hoping for.

J.J. Abrams was criticized from Trekkies for making Star Trek into Star Wars. But the most ironic thing is that he is making The Force Awakens like his first Star Trek film. The first half of The Force Awakens is a spiritual carbon copy of the 2009 Star Trek where the pacing is very rushed and frenetic with lots of people running around, and key characters meeting conveniently for the first time and bonding instantaneously. There's even a space monster chasing our heroes during the middle.

When others copy something from another movie, it can be considered either a homage or a ripoff. But The Force Awakens copying specific plot points from its own library, down to its narrative structure, is just lazy. Almost everything from A New Hope is getting a polished makeover - from a young protagonist in a desert planet being chased by an evil empire led by a mysterious, powerful figure, down to the heroes trying to destroy a planet killer base by exploiting a key structural weakness.

Newcomer Daisy Ridley as Rey was fantastic and arguably the best part about the film.. Rey's spunk, beauty and resourcefulness immediately endears her to the audience. Oscar Isaac's dashing Poe Cameron was great but wished he had more screen time. Adam Driver, looking the best he has ever been in his adult life thanks to movie magic, was pretty decent as the film's big bad Kylo Ren but his pivotal scenes with ______ lacks any emotional weight. John Boyega as Finn was okay but he had some embarrassing lines, an overacting "Nooooooo" scene, and the subtle romance angle seemed forced.

The FX was top-notch and beautifully blended with the practical effects. The CGI on Maz Kanata (played by Lupita Nyong'o) was incredible, felt like it was played by an actor in heavy makeup. If I didn't know Lupita was playing Maz Kanata, I would have sworn it was Linda Hunt. The scenery and landscape were stunning, as well as some striking images like the crashed Star Destroyer.

The first half of the film we got some exciting space escape sequence, a goosebump-inducing Millennium Falon dogfight and some fun, chaotic action involving a monster and bounty hunters (played by The Raid cast). The 3rd act seems uninspired and a blatant rehash of A New Hope. Kinda makes me appreciate some of the action from the panned second Star Wars trilogy. Hopefully, the creative team can come up with something more bolder and original for the next two sequels.

Preliminary Rating: 7/10 or 7.5/10

Note: I'll add more later when I have some time to think about it.
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Update: December 16, 2015

Critics' Reviews for STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS

Rotten Tomatoes: 97% Approval Rating (125 out of 129 critics like it)

Consensus: Packed with action and populated by both familiar faces and fresh blood, The Force Awakens successfully recalls the series' former glory while injecting it with renewed energy.

Entertainment Weekly - B+
The wait is over. You, or that special someone you love, can stop panting into that brown paper bag and finally relax because there are about to be a lot of very happy Star Wars fans out there. J.J. Abrams’The Force Awakens delivers exactly what you want it to: rollicking adventure wrapped in epic mythology, a perfect amount of fan service that fires your geekiest synapses, and a just-right cliffhanger ending that paves the way for future installments. In a way, Abrams has accomplished exactly what he did with 2009’s Star Trek. He took a worshiped pop-culture franchise with a rabid legion of disciples, treated it with respect, and made it matter again.

Empire Magazine - 4/5
If you were to make a list of the essential ingredients of a Star Wars film, you would find almost all in J.J. Abrams’ wake-up call to this sleeping giant of a franchise. From the biggest — dark versus light side, dogfights, mystical powers — to the smallest — mouse robots, turbo lasers, absurd alien Cantina music — this glories in reminding us what we all loved about this universe. By the end, it’s given us a reason to be excited about Star Wars’ future as well. It packs a planet-sized punch, launching a new generation of characters who – by the end – take a place next to Han, Leia and the rest. Star Wars is back, and this is just the beginning.

Richard Roeper - 4/4
What a beautiful, thrilling, joyous, surprising and heart-thumping adventure this is. “The Force Awakens” pops with memorable battle sequences, gives us chills with encore appearances by stars from the original trilogy and introduces more than a half-dozen terrific Next Generation characters. If the U.S. presidential election were held this weekend, director-producer-co-writer J.J. Abrams might carry the day based on geek support alone.

USA Today - 4/4
While each of the prior Star Wars movies had a definite ending, The Force Awakens finishes with an excellent and emotional cliffhanger that will leave fans, casual and hardcore alike, breathless for Episode VIII. The Force Awakens reveals surprising connections, begins a few bromances, solves mysteries while digging up others, and sets a strong tone for what comes next in Star Wars lore. Best of all? It’ll make you feel like a kid being introduced to something truly special once again.

Arizona Republic - 4.5/5
Go see this movie. Because what Abrams has done is find and return the ingredient crucial to the original three films in the franchise that was sorely lacking in the second round: fun. Abrams shows an expert understanding of what makes the best of these movies so great — even more so than George Lucas himself showed with the unfortunate “The Phantom Menace.” With that film, Lucas lost touch with the magic he created. Abrams finds it and puts it to excellent use. “The Force Awakens” indeed — and it awakened the kid in me.





Note: The previous Star Wars thread right now is a mess due to the migration as posts are suddenly not arranged chronologically and very hard to read. Until it's fixed, let's continue the discussion here.

Dragonstuff, If you hadnt seen the star trek movie would you have given it a higher score?

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Dragonstuff, If you hadnt seen the star trek movie would you have given it a higher score?

Probably the same score because the Star Trek comparison that I stated was not a negative reaction, just an observation. I enjoyed the first half of The Force Awaken. It's when they went with the Death Star route in the 3rd act that my rating dropped from 8 to a 7. And it's not only the retread Death Star plot line, it's just that it wasn't well executed. There wasn't anything memorable with the scenes with the heroes sneaking into the base or the X-Wings' assault on the base. Not terrible, mind you, just felt like a run-of-the-mill action sequences.

 

[MaveDeltzer]

Felt like I was running down a Star Wars checklist of plot points / dialogue while watching it.

Almost like the Star Trek list at 32:49-36:11 by the 3rd they are almost done. Plus calling that JJ should be doing Star Wars in 2010 at 19:20-21:50.


I had watched the Original 3 movies within the last day (with Weekly Planet commentary) so I was all Star Warsed up. Saw it in 3D since all the 2D shows were sold out the day tickets went on sale. Gonna go see it in 2D at some point. Really enjoyed the new cast plus Han, Chewie and C-3PO. The film looked gorgeous up there with Prometheus for best looking space movie. For the next movie I see the other Knights getting brought in to take over for Ben Ren's failure while he trains with the Wonderful Wizard of Frank Oz.

Some of the weaker parts. Orange lady at the bar was too normal for a 'Don't stare' moment, I was hoping she was a Hutt or some beastly thing but she was just Edna Mode. The final space battle felt tacked on, there was no one up there to care about in this X-Wing only fleet since Poe only popped in at a few points. Plus the banter/chatter between pilots was so great in the other movies, not here.

Mr Ford finally got his 30 year wish.

 

[HUNTERMANIA]

Finn: "Let's use the force!"

Han: "What?! That's not how it works!"

Lol!! That was probably the funniest line of the movie, that was one of the best parts.

 

[Katsumi Yamada]

I thought the movie was really fun, the only thing I didn't really like was Kylo Ren getting his ass beat by Rey so badly. I know at the end Snoke said he was going to finish Kylo's training, but Rey wasn't trained at all. Unless she is the Michael Jordan of Force users I feel she shouldn't of been able to do what she did so fast. God damn it, that was Darth Vader's grandson.

Have a theory of the story that explains this...

Spoiler

Rey is Luke's daughter, and when she was a small child was one of his student along with Ben solo and others...let's say ben's 10yrs older than her.
After Ben and Luke's other students were turned to the dark side and became knights of ren, Luke hid his daughter to protect her, and force wiped her memory.

When she touched the lightsaber the force awoke and she started to be able to do Jedi stuff...it would make sense if she had already begun her training as a child and just had no memory of it.

Maybe Luke planned on her finding him

 

[Katsumi Yamada]

Lol!! That was probably the funniest line of the movie, that was one of the best parts.

Agreed. Harrison ford was fantastic in this

 

[RerouteToRemain]

lol, several things you say were not explained were in fact explained. Maybe watch it again before jumping to conclusions. Also disagree with lots of points.

This, I stopped reading pretty quickly because almost immediately you wrote some incorrect nonsense.

The Solo finding them without a explanation is false.

The lightsaber pulled from the snow was because his force was being overpowered and he was significantly injured...

They partially explained why Luke was missing.


I stopped reading there. Did you actually pay attention to the movie?

The movie was poorly written but I still enjoyed it quite a lot.

 

[Thai Domi]

The prequels catch too much flack, imo. Sure, they have some really dull moments and overall aren't as good as the originals, but there are great action scenes in every single one of them.

Darth Maul vs Qui Gon Jinn; Darth Maul vs Qui Gon Jinn & Obi Wan Kenobi; Count Dooku vs Qui Gon Jinn & Obi Wan Kenobi; Count Dooku vs Yoda; Count Dooku vs Obi Wan Kenobi & Anakin Skywalker; Darth Sidious (with a little help from Anakin Skywalker) vs Mace Windu, Kit Fisto, Agen Kolar & Saesee Tiin; Darth Vader vs Obi Wan Kenobi (1); Darth Sidious vs Yoda.

Lightsaber duels are a staple of SW films. The prequals have some of the best of them.

 

[Tyrannosaurus rex]

Have a theory of the story that explains this...

Spoiler

Rey is Luke's daughter, and when she was a small child was one of his student along with Ben solo and others...let's say ben's 10yrs older than her.
After Ben and Luke's other students were turned to the dark side and became knights of ren, Luke hid his daughter to protect her, and force wiped her memory.

When she touched the lightsaber the force awoke and she started to be able to do Jedi stuff...it would make sense if she had already begun her training as a child and just had no memory of it.

Maybe Luke planned on her finding him

That´s a pretty good theory. I like it.

But for some reason I doubt that´s what happened in the series. After the prequels I have no faith that they put in any effor to have the movie make sense. Hope I´m wrong though.

 

[RerouteToRemain]

Decided to read more.

You talk about Rey's power vs Luke. She truly believed in the force and had confidence in herself. Something Luke did not have. Like when Luke was in the swamp he had the power to lift the x wing but didn't believe in himself and let the force flowing through him.

Yoda mentions in the other movies that if you believe and let the force flowing through you it will show things and whatnot.

Also the new death star when you mention that they find each other, you made it sound like the main base was the size of the planet. Obviously this is false. While the main base was large it wasn't the size of the planet. Most of what you saw was the weapon...

 

[Aegon Spengler]

I still have hope Poe's character will turn out gay in the next film. Can you imagine all the jimmies that will be rustled? I'd be soooooooooooooo happy.

He's not gay. I read the comics and they're canon. Poe has a badass wife. Spanish chick from some South American planet. She fought at Endor as a young teenager.

 

[TrueBias]

With Poe being witty, funny, an everyday man, & an excellent pilot, hes the han solo.

Fin? Hmm..no skill, cant kill as a trooper, goofy, no force, a janitor, & banning himself from the first order....his ass is jar jar.

 

[Sansara]

No i didnt laugh one bit and wasnt entertained.

Also you guys gave me something more to rant. I think modern movies are going to far with comic reliefs, they break the tension SO MUCH that my suspension of disbelief is completely gone.

I remember watching LOTR Two towers, during the battle scene;- instead of making it as tense as it can be they focuses on making jokes on Gimli.
I felt twice pissed, first my favorite character of the books became a joke, second the comic relief was BADLY PLACED.
In a tense scene you dont put comedy, maybe before or after, but during? Nope. That is not how it is supposed to be done.

 

[jabba the punk]

Why are you in this thread? GTFO !

A lot of hate for this movie. I wonder why?????