Star Wars Megathread

[Thrawn33]

I saw an article saying the Boba actor is going to be in Obi Wan's show as a clone prior to being in Mando Season 3. Good. Can't leave Boba out of Mando now.

My first instinct was Boba....

...then remembered there's a shit ton of clones he can play.

 

[Madmick]

It depends on the quality of content.

From 1999-2005 was there an oversaturation of Star Wars content across movies, novels, comics, and video games? Hell, the first two movies weren't good (some say all three), but across the other mediums it was the best era of Star Wars ever.

Same thing with the MCU - 24 movies within 12 years, and they're certainly of varying quality from 'meh' (Iron Man sequels, Thor 2, Avengers2) to awesome (Avengers1, Cap2 Winter Soldier, Civil War, Infinite War).

And its not like all the Disney+ series announced are coming out within a year. Its like a 'phase' of MCU films spread out over a couple years.

Is there something wrong with your memory? People did nothing but shit on Star Wars from 1999-2005. That's all I heard at the time. That's why Episodes 2 & 3 both made less money than Episode I. The exact opposite trajectory was true of the original. People ranted about how terrible the prequels were, and how Lucas was destroying his legacy. That was the mainstream sentiment.

Furthermore, no, all of the Star Wars content was subcultural hardcore fandom content to which this mainstream public was oblivious. The only stuff that registered on a mainstream level was the trilogy prequel. It was nothing like nearly two dozen Disney properties with this level of visibility. If you factored in all the additional books, comics, and other content, this oversaturation dwarfs that period's.

Besides, the quality isn't as relevant as the oversaturation. Daredevil and Punisher died alongside the rest of the Marvel properties. Everyone who was still watching Agents of Shield testifies it was at its peak, by miles, and yet it died too.

 

[Aegon Spengler]

There is also the rumored Rebels sequal in development so we can finally see what happens with Erza/Thrawn etc.

Only think that will kill it is if its shit.

Im not having much hope for Andor or the movie but well see.

I don't mind them throwing a lot of darts trying to hit the bullseye, I just hope we can see the board by the end of it lmao

 

[Thrawn33]

I don't mind them throwing a lot of darts trying to hit the bullseye, I just hope we can see the board by the end of it lmao

This.

Feels like a first round of "ok, we got momentum, let's try some shit"

With F&F now proving themselves and being a solid backstop let's see if they can expand with others.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Is there something wrong with your memory? People did nothing but shit on Star Wars from 1999-2005. That's all I heard at the time. That's why Episodes 2 & 3 both made less money than Episode I.

2nd and 3rd entries in trilogies usually make less than the 1st, with the exception of LOTR. Ep1 made the most money not because it was good, but because fans and mass audiences were curious about the first Star Wars movie in 16 years and about the cutting edge special effects at the time.

Ep3 made more money than Ep2 because of the improved writing as compared to Ep2.

And no, I recall the mass reaction to Ep1 & Ep2 being mostly positive, just not by critics or hardcore fans. Probably because I was younger then and didn't have access to the internet at the time.

The exact opposite trajectory was true of the original. People ranted about how terrible the prequels were, and how Lucas was destroying his legacy. That was the mainstream sentiment.

Ranted where? On online forums?

Don't have time to reply to the rest of your post. Got to hit the sack.

 

[FyrFytr998]

Besides, the quality isn't as relevant as the oversaturation. Daredevil and Punisher died alongside the rest of the Marvel properties. Everyone who was still watching Agents of Shield testifies it was at its peak, by miles, and yet it died too.

Daredevil and Punisher died, because Disney told Netflix they can do it better with their own streaming service. That’s why they are doing their best to find a property to reintroduce them now that the no compete clause is over. And while decent, AoS suffered a lack of MCU crossover that made it feel like a side project with no real stakes in the big picture.

I am sure Kevin Fiege has a new Master Plan with Disney+ that will take some of the weight off the feature films needing to provide all the plot points of the next phase.

 

[Madmick]

2nd and 3rd entries in trilogies usually make less than the 1st, with the exception of LOTR. Ep1 made the most money not because it was good, but because fans and mass audiences were curious about the first Star Wars movie in 16 years and about the cutting edge special effects at the time.

Ep3 made more money than Ep2 because of the improved writing as compared to Ep2.

And no, I recall the mass reaction to Ep1 & Ep2 being mostly positive, just not by critics or hardcore fans. Probably because I was younger then and didn't have access to the internet at the time.

Ranted where? On online forums?

Don't have time to reply to the rest of your post. Got to hit the sack.

No, the sequels in trilogies that have a highly successful original release don't usually make less money. LOTR isn't the only exception. The only other trilogy in my lifetime on the same level as Star Wars besides LOTR was The Matrix, and the 2nd movie made way more than the first because the first was so good. The third shit came up short because the 2nd film shit the bed.

Also, no, Episode 3 of Star Wars made more money than Episode 2 because people wanted to see Anakin become Vader. It could have gotten miserable reviews, and the people would have still gone to see that. That was the entire point of the prequels. Besides, you're only further strengthening my point. Despite Ep 3 being received more favorably then Ep 1, not just Ep 2, it made less money than Ep 1. That's because people hated it. SW's reputation at the time was at an all-time low with the mainstream following the prequel trilogy.

Where did people rant about this? In real life. Newspapers, too, but anyone who talked about Star Wars that wasn't a Star Wars geek talked about how bad it was. Even when I talked to other SW geeks most would shit on it.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

No, the sequels in trilogies that have a highly successful original release don't usually make less money. LOTR isn't the only exception. The only other trilogy in my lifetime on the same level as Star Wars besides LOTR was The Matrix, and the 2nd movie made way more than the first because the first was so good. The third shit came up short because the 2nd film shit the bed.

Forgot about Matrix Reloaded, perhaps because I wanted to forget about it.

It usually has more to do with how the previous movie was received and the amount of hype & marketing.

Also, no, Episode 3 of Star Wars made more money than Episode 2 because people wanted to see Anakin become Vader. It could have gotten miserable reviews, and the people would have still gone to see that. That was the entire point of the prequels. Besides, you're only further strengthening my point. Despite Ep 3 being received more favorably then Ep 1, not just Ep 2, it made less money than Ep 1. That's because people hated it. SW's reputation at the time was at an all-time low with the mainstream following the prequel trilogy.

Comparing a SW movie that only came out 3 years before the previous SW movie, to the SW movie that came out 16 years after the previous SW is a bit unfair.

Ep1 was a 'culture event,' in which practically EVERYONE that wasn't a SW fan or general movie-goer went to go see it out of curiosity... or to see beautiful eye-candy.

Similar to how Avatar was the first modern CGI 3D movie.

By 2005, big-budget movies loaded with CGI were commonplace after Ep1 set the Hollywood standard of 'everything must be CGI to attract audiences.' Even Anakin turning into Vader, in addition to the expected CGI-fest, couldn't pull in giant audiences.

'Everyone hated it' is generalizing a bit. Rotten Tomatoes has a 66% audience score and a surprisingly high 80% critics score for Ep3.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars_episode_iii_revenge_of_the_sith

Where did people rant about this? In real life. Newspapers, too, but anyone who talked about Star Wars that wasn't a Star Wars geek talked about how bad it was. Even when I talked to other SW geeks most would shit on it.

Well yeah, because with Star Wars there's a learning curve to understand it.

For example, most non-fans don't get that the characters AREN'T SPEAKING ENGLISH (or any Earth-language) to eachother. It takes place in another galaxy millions of years ago, and they're speaking 'basic.' Not the absolute best excuse for what most would consider imperfect dialogue, but for a space opera it is a decent excuse for most scenes.

As for the SW geeks disliking it, I'm not surprised because there were several excellent SW books released during the 90s that no possible prequel movie could have been satisfactory to when comparing them.

And after reading EU books, that's the standard of quality in the fan's mind who read them. I'll go further into that tomorrow.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

I should have specified, “If you still have the vhs” but alas I’m not 13 anymore so I haven’t tried to pause the DVD remaster there either....

I have the 6 disc special edition on bluray and them tiddays are still there, you piece of shit.

 

[Amerikuracana]

No, the sequels in trilogies that have a highly successful original release don't usually make less money. LOTR isn't the only exception. The only other trilogy in my lifetime on the same level as Star Wars besides LOTR was The Matrix, and the 2nd movie made way more than the first because the first was so good. The third shit came up short because the 2nd film shit the bed.

Also, no, Episode 3 of Star Wars made more money than Episode 2 because people wanted to see Anakin become Vader. It could have gotten miserable reviews, and the people would have still gone to see that. That was the entire point of the prequels. Besides, you're only further strengthening my point. Despite Ep 3 being received more favorably then Ep 1, not just Ep 2, it made less money than Ep 1. That's because people hated it. SW's reputation at the time was at an all-time low with the mainstream following the prequel trilogy.

Where did people rant about this? In real life. Newspapers, too, but anyone who talked about Star Wars that wasn't a Star Wars geek talked about how bad it was. Even when I talked to other SW geeks most would shit on it.

Episode 1 and all that green screen and bad cgi were just the absolute worst. It was so bad. What a waste for qui-gon.

 

[minute bull]

You can take his trilogy off that list and doesn't put a dent in my point. Disney is going to murder Star Wars enthusiasm with this ridiculous oversaturation of content.

If that happens they can just insert another Mark Hamill stand-in. Luke ex machina.

 

[HHJ]

Episode 1 and all that green screen and bad cgi were just the absolute worst. It was so bad. What a waste for qui-gon.

I wouldn't say it was a waste,but for whatever reason,liam neeson refused to act as wooden as many of the other actors and it made alot of the movie watchable. I don't blame the actors at all,most of them have acted very well in other movies. I blame lucas but I don't know why he directed them like this.

 

[FyrFytr998]

Looks like KK is going to keep the SJW theme going in print.....

 

[GtehMVP]

Looks like KK is going to keep the SJW theme going in print.....

lol, I was wondering where KK and her weirdo arm of Lucasfilm went. This is just awful, but so long as she stays away from the old Republic and post Jedi era from here on out, whatever.

 

[GSP_37]

So is Gallery Season 2 just one episode? I didn't see any episode 2 in the Disney+ schedule for Jan 2021, but did see like 4 episodes of what might be animated shorts of Star Wars female characters and The Wolverine, Wandavision.

 

[GSP_37]

I watched Clone Wars S4E14 to see Ahsoka beheading the 4 Deathwatch Mandos, and I have a feeling it's possible Bo-Katan will turn evil since she was with Deathwatch and they did evil things to weak villagers. Din Djarin might have to put Bo down and drop her where she stands.

 

[FyrFytr998]

lol, I was wondering where KK and her weirdo arm of Lucasfilm went. This is just awful, but so long as she stays away from the old Republic and post Jedi era from here on out, whatever.

Seriously. These are the types of stories they used for filler episodes. You don’t main line this shit.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

but little girls and stuff

 

[GSP_37]

If the following fought, who'd win the Mando Gran Prix?

Boba Fett
Mando
Bo-Katan
Armorer
Heavy Infantry Mando
Sabine Wren

 

[FyrFytr998]

If the following fought, who'd win the Mando Gran Prix?

Boba Fett
Mando
Bo-Katan
Armorer
Heavy Infantry Mando
Sabine Wren

I have it a coin flip vs. Bo and the Armorer.