Television Star Trek: Starfleet Academy is terrible

[Nizam al-Mulk]

It's fascinating to me to see people ITT, all of you fans of the franchise apparently, complaining about a Star Trek series being too woke, having diverse for diversity's sake, or being overtly political. TOS was all of those. Do you remember the bridge crew? The first interracial kiss on television? The Neutral Zone separating the Federation from the Romulan Empire?

I'm not saying all criticism is invalid--I haven't watched much of any of the newer series, TBH, so I can't really judge. And I have no doubt that when you are churning out so many, there are bound to be duds--perhaps more duds than successes even. But to complain they have gay people or a fat hologram or whatever is just plain silly to me.

Think what you want, of course. That's just my 2 cents FWIW.

Progress was achieved, state socialism is not coming. There is not a single ideology you cannot overdo.

TOS's ideas kinda succeeded minus for the state socialism with no money part. What the current writers are pushing will go to the dustbin of history and never be accepted.

 

[Andy Capp]

Progress was achieved, state socialism is not coming. There is not a single ideology you cannot overdo.

TOS's ideas kinda succeeded minus for the state socialism with no money part. What the current writers are pushing will go to the dustbin of history and never be accepted.

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

 

[Jesus X]

The ugly fat lesbians who wrote the show.

It would have been more successful if they at least chose beautiful lipstick lesbians. Diora baird is supposed to be a lesbian

 

[Jesus X]

This is like an unintentional parody is hilariously bad. Must be a money laundering scheme, it makes no sense for something so bad to be green lit. It shows incompetent people have overtaken every aspect of production these days. Every aspect is awful.

This went to several people who greenlit this like they could see the episodes every day during filming this should have been stopped at the filming stage. This should have been cancelled at the first table read.

 

[Starman]

If you want to bring up politics, you know the way to the WR.

STFU.

 

[Streeter]

I was good with it till the episode a week ago then went full on Discovery GAY!! Okay im bout done. SNW was great first seadon then the agenda police destroyed that too.

Someone needs to ban Frakes and anyone with him from any finite star trek .

 

[Rygu]

Basically every review site would agree with you.

 

[sickc0d3r]

So far, I’ve heard it’s terrible from Sherdoggers, which means it has black people in it.

I’ve heard it’s terrible from my boss, which usually means it’s actually good.

And I’ve heard it’s really good from my friend, which means it actually sucks.

So I’ll have to watch it to decide for myself, which defeats the entire purpose of recommendations, God dammit.

I’ll save you some time, it objectively sucks. Unless you have a mature woman foot fetish, maybe? Holly Hunter has aged well and sits around with her bare feet pointed at the camera the entire time.

 

[sverre054]

Today episode was good. Tons of DS9 stuff. Reminds me of Data's day a little bit. Is anyone actually watching this or just basing it on youtube reviewers who make money by rage baiting? Honestly, the first episode was probably the weakest. Yes its not TNG, but it's not horrible so far. TNG would have been canceled by the fan mob, if the internet existed when Encounter at Farpoint came out.

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

TNG would have been canceled by the fan mob, if the internet existed when Encounter at Farpoint came out.

Aside from all the skirt wearing man mocked into oblivion. Why?

It would have been cancelled because early TNG is weak compared to what we get now.

 

[Brandino]

As a very casual follower of Star Trek.... what the hell is this thing? Seriously are they trying to push away people from beloved IP's? I can't imagine the typical Big Bang Theory like nerd would be a fan of this new series?

 

[Gene Tunney]

Today episode was good. Tons of DS9 stuff. Reminds me of Data's day a little bit. Is anyone actually watching this or just basing it on youtube reviewers who make money by rage baiting? Honestly, the first episode was probably the weakest. Yes its not TNG, but it's not horrible so far. TNG would have been canceled by the fan mob, if the internet existed when Encounter at Farpoint came out.

Like this youtube review?

Spoiler

spoiler alert

 

[GtehMVP]

It's an absolute disgrace to television, let alone Star Trek.

 

[William Huggins]

Judging by the poster, at least six.

Season 2 and they multiply like tribbles..........

 

[Harry Dresden]

It's an absolute disgrace to television, let alone Star Trek.

No way....is that for real? I aint even a trek can, love wars. But tell me they really didnt do the klingons this way

 

[GtehMVP]

No way....is that for real? I aint even a trek can, love wars. But tell me they really didnt do the klingons this way

They did. The captain's a hippy chick and pretty much everyone is either fat, gay, bi curious, retarded, incompetent, or an overly emotional zoomer. It's worse than the Acolyte, and that's impressive.

 

[Beechwood]

I haven't read anything good about the new star trek. It looks to be another woke bomb from Hollywood.

Nolte: ‘Star Trek: Starfleet Academy’ Bombing on Paramount+​

Nolte: ‘Star Trek: Starfleet Academy’ Bombing on Paramount+

The truly unwatchable "Star Trek: Starfleet Academy" is bombing even on Paramount+, its own streaming home.

www.breitbart.com

....As of this writing, after 12 days of free release, only 238,000 people have watched it. What’s more, its like-to-dislike ratio is a devastating 8.6K to 30K.

To express confidence in the show, Paramount announced Starfleet Academy would be renewed for a second season even before the premiere of the first season. We’ll see if this sticks.

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

I do not see why Paramount does not abandon this.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

I’m a massive Star Trek fan of everything from TOS to Enteprise. I hate nuTrek but I try not to complain about it too much, I just don’t watch it. I watched season 1 of Discovery and hated it and watched season 1 of Picard and hated that. I watched season 3 of Picard and it was significantly better but still a pale imitation of the glory days of TNG in my opinion. I haven’t watched anymore Discovery or any of Strange New Worlds and I definitely won’t be watching Starfleet Academy. Life is too short to waste time on things that will make me angry or disappointed.

Unlike most other posters in this thread I don’t care if nuTrek is woke. Star Trek was woke before woke existed as a concept. No, my complaints about nuTrek are more to do with its complete and utter disregard for the cannon and lore established across the first 40 years of the franchise, both at the small scale for individual characters (Spock had an adopted human sister) and the large scale for the established universe (what they did with Klingons in Discovery). As a hardcore Trek nerd this stuff is intolerable.

My other main gripe is how the characters act and talk. Hundreds of years in the future in a professional setting and the characters are talking like Gen Z twenty somethings on the bridge?

TNG has been described as “competence porn”. That fat chick in Discovery wouldn’t have even made it out of the Academy in TOS through Voyager era Star Trek. I haven’t watched it but I’ve heard for example that in SNW that Spock sleeps around with several members of the crew. What the fuck? If there was one word and one word only to describe Spock it would be “reserved”.

Everything about nuTrek is a joke. I read that in this most recent episode of Academy there’s the Benjamin Sisko museum and in it you can see the eye glasses and type writer used by Sisko in the episode where he was hallucinating that he was a science fiction writer in the 1930s. How would a type writer and glasses that NEVER EXISTED from a dream be in a museum 800 years later? JFC.