Social Spying on Trump confirmed: Operation Crossfire Hurricane ***UPDATE: Comey Admits, "I Was Wrong" ***

Jesus man, maybe if you bothered to read the thread, you wouldn’t be so uninformed.


From Fox,

The most fishy parts of the story are: Is Mifsud really a Russian agent?” former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy said Monday on “Fox and Friends.”

“No evidence has been presented to support the claim,” investigative journalist Lee Smith also wrote in a lengthy story about Mifsud for RealClearInvestigations. “Although Mifsud has traveled many times to Russia and has contacts with Russian academics, his closest public ties are to Western governments, politicians, and institutions, including the CIA, FBI and British intelligence services.”


“Mifsud also had Western ties at academic institutions like the Link Campus University in Rome, the University of Stirling in Scotland, the London Academy of Diplomacy and the London Center for International Law Practice







Hmm, I wonder where Mifsud has been hiding for the last year?

Oh, link Campus.


Because, western intelligence allies hide secret Russian assets all the time...


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Oh Lee Smith said he's an "FBI asset", well that changes things doesn't it? <45>

Smatter, couldn't find anything by Soloman on the subject?

I remember seeing Smith on Tucker Carlson blathering about how Glenn Simpson set up the Trump Jr. Trump Tower meeting with Natalya Veselnitskaya because he was actually secretly working on behalf of the Kremlin to roll back the Magnitsky act.<45>

On that note, a guy hitting me up for money on the street corner told me James Comey was secretly Buckethead, can you find some corroboration for that on the right wing nutjob message boards for me?

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Oh Lee Smith said he's an "FBI asset", well that changes things doesn't it? <45>

Smatter, couldn't find anything by Soloman on the subject?

I remember seeing Smith on Tucker Carlson blathering about how Glenn Simpson set up the Trump Jr. Trump Tower meeting with Natalya Veselnitskaya because he was actually secretly working on behalf of the Kremlin to roll back the Magnitsky act.<45>

On that note, a guy hitting me up for money on the street corner told me James Comey was secretly Buckethead, can you find some corroboration for that on the right wing nutjob message boards for me?

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I’m not sure why you’re mocking John Solomon. He’s been FAR closer to the truth the last two years than anyone on cnn, msnbc, etc.
 
I’m not sure why you’re mocking John Solomon. He’s been FAR closer to the truth the last two years than anyone on cnn, msnbc, etc.

Given that your reality isn't based on actual reality because you frequent websites like "easilydupedrightwingwacko.com", I understand why you think that.

Face facts Bob, even Trump's new shit eating personal attorney Barr, who we know is willing to mislead on basic facts, has said, when asked a direct question under oath: "I just want to make it clear... that I am not saying that improper surveillance occurred."
<WellThere>

Now how about that Comey/Buckethead link?

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Given that your reality isn't based on actual reality because you frequent websites like "easilydupedrightwingwacko.com", I understand why you think that.

Face facts Bob, even Trump's new shit eating personal attorney Barr, who we know is willing to mislead on basic facts, has said, when asked a direct question under oath: "I just want to make it clear... that I am not saying that improper surveillance occurred."
<WellThere>

Now how about that Comey/Buckethead link?

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bob switched the tv off when he heard Barr's original claim, and never saw the immediate backtracking the moment he was questioned. This would explain bob's confusion.
 
Given that your reality isn't based on actual reality because you frequent websites like "easilydupedrightwingwacko.com", I understand why you think that.

Face facts Bob, even Trump's new shit eating personal attorney Barr, who we know is willing to mislead on basic facts, has said, when asked a direct question under oath: "I just want to make it clear... that I am not saying that improper surveillance occurred."
<WellThere>

Now how about that Comey/Buckethead link?

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You realize that’s why he’s investigating it?
 
Given that your reality isn't based on actual reality because you frequent websites like "easilydupedrightwingwacko.com", I understand why you think that.

Face facts Bob, even Trump's new shit eating personal attorney Barr, who we know is willing to mislead on basic facts, has said, when asked a direct question under oath: "I just want to make it clear... that I am not saying that improper surveillance occurred."

You're clearly an idiot who did not pay attention to what was said. First, Barr is an objective, professional Attorney General unlike Obama's groveling sycophants. Let's not assume Trump is continuing trends begun under the Obama administration in all aspects. Second, Barr stated that spying occurred on a private political campaign, and that it is a big deal. He said he wanted to look into it (investigate) to see if it was begun for the proper motivations, not political motivations. Given that a dossier funded by the DNC and Hillary's campaign was part of the impetus and justification to obtain surveillance warrants against Trump's campaign I agree with him that more scrutiny is fully warranted.

Surely Obama of all people would never stoop to abusing government power to gain political advantages. /sarcasm
 
Second, Barr stated that spying occurred on a private political campaign,

"I think spying did occur. The question is whether it was adequately predicated,” “spying on a political campaign is a big deal.” Bill Barr


"when the attorney general of the United States uses the word ‘spying,’ it’s rather provocative and in my view unnecessarily inflammatory.” Senator Brain Schatz stated to Barr later in the hearing.

“Um, did you say that I said that it occurred?"<{pranko}>" I just want to make it clear, thinking back on all the different colloquies here, that I am not saying that improper surveillance occurred,” “I am saying I am concerned about it and looking into it, that’s all.” Barr offered at the close of the hearing.
 
You realize that’s why he’s investigating it?

He should just call you then Bob, since you have it all figured out and are privy to shit he obviously didn't know when he powerwalked his spying statement back when challenged and clarified that "I am not saying that improper surveillance occurred."
 
Given that a dossier funded by the DNC and Hillary's campaign was part of the impetus and justification to obtain surveillance warrants against Trump's campaign I agree with him that more scrutiny is fully warranted.

Yes, another Trumpleforeskin who still believes Nunes' bullshit memo that tried to misconstrue the FISA warrants, and wants to talk about the Steele Dossier <{jackyeah}>

The most important things we learned are that: 1) the government relied on information developed over the course of several years 2) the Steele dossier was only part of the information relied on by the FBI 3) the government informed the FISC that the dossier information had been developed for the purpose of discrediting then-candidate Donald Trump's political campaign and 4) each time that the application was renewed, the government submitted enough evidence that an impartial federal judge believed there was probable cause to allow the government to continue its investigation."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/23/politics/fisa-carter-page-trump/index.html

EVEN Gowdy (who would love for there to have been legitimate anti GOP corruption in Obama's DOJ) after seeing the intelligence has unequivocally said that this whole thing was, surprise surprise like all of the other times Trump played Cyrano De Bergerac through Nunes, not a real thing:

"I am even more convinced that the FBI did exactly what my fellow citizens would want them to do when they got the information they got, and that it has nothing to do with Donald Trump," the South Carolina Republican said in an interview on Fox News.

As for the Steele Dossier itself:

The Fusion GPS investigation was originally funded by a "never Trumper" and the funding stopped after it was clear that Trump was the GOP candidate in May of 2016, and then the Dems took over. The man at Fusion GPS though who wanted to keep it going though was Glenn Simpson, because of his concerns about Trump's "sinister" Russian ties, not as a partisan hack for Clinton: "I had no interest in working for Hillary fucking Clinton, I covered those people, Hillary and Bill Clinton for years. They were an old fashioned political machine."

By the time the Dems took over, Simpson already had intelligence suggesting that the Russians might be seeking to influence the election on behalf of Trump, before Simpson recruited Steele
, hoping that Steele's history investigating Russian influence operations in western Europe would allow him to pick up intelligence on what the Russians were doing in the US, but he did not tell him the intelligence he already had that the Russians might be seeking to influence the election on behalf of Trump. He told Steele "Tell me what Trump's been doing over there" and they agreed to a 30 day contract with an option to renew for $30K. Steele was already working on projects in Russia for other clients involved in commercial litigation, and he though he could "easily hand this new assignment to his contacts in Russia whom he paid to search out information and prepare reports."

And from the New Yorker: "Within a few weeks, two or three of Steele’s long-standing collectors came back with reports drawn from Orbis’s larger network of sources. Steele looked at the material and, according to people familiar with the matter, asked himself, “Oh, my God—what is this?” He called in Burrows, who was normally unflappable. Burrows realized that they had a problem. As Simpson later put it, “We threw out a line in the water, and Moby-Dick came back.”

"Burrows told me that he and Steele made a pact when they left M.I.6: “We both agreed it was a duty to alert U.K. and allied authorities if we came across anything with national-security dimensions. It comes from a very long government service. We still have that ethos of wanting to do the right thing by our authorities.”

Steele also felt a duty to get the information to the F.B.I. Although Trump has tweeted that the dossier was “all cooked up by Hillary Clinton,” Steele approached the Bureau on his own. According to Simpson’s sworn testimony to the House Intelligence Committee, Steele told him in June, 2016, that he wanted to alert the U.S. government, and explained, “I’m a former intelligence officer, and we’re your closest ally.” Simpson testified that he asked to think about it for a few days; when Steele brought it up again, Simpson relented. As Simpson told the Senate Judiciary Committee, “Let’s be clear. This was not considered by me to be part of the work we were doing. This was like you’re driving to work and you see something happen and you call 911.” Steele, he said, felt “professionally obligated to do it.” Simpson went along, he testified, because Steele was the “national-security expert,” whereas he was merely “an ex-journalist.”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/christopher-steele-the-man-behind-the-trump-dossier
 
According to Cake, Avenatti is as serious an attorney as you can find..

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I heard when Avenatti tried to extort Nike, the official he threatened was like "Sir, this is a Nike STORE, either purchase a 40 dollar pair of socks or please leave. You have clogged our toilets 3 times this week."
 
“Um, did you say that I said that it occurred?"" I just want to make it clear, thinking back on all the different colloquies here, that I am not saying that improper surveillance occurred,” “I am saying I am concerned about it and looking into it, that’s all.” Barr offered at the close of the hearing.

He's not saying it yet, hence why he needs to investigate the matter. Even CNN acknowledges that Barr's position on whether or not spying occurred has not changed, much to their chagrin.

CNN said:
On Wednesday, Barr refused to back down from the use of that word -- insisting that "spying is a good English word that in fact doesn't have synonyms because it is the broadest word incorporating really all forms of covert intelligence collection." Challenged by Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-Rhode Island) as to whether the term "spying" is used commonly in the Department of Justice, Barr retorted: "It's commonly used by me."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/01/poli...nald-trump-robert-mueller-congress/index.html

Liberals seems to have concluded that since the facts are not on their side they must discredit the messenger. For some reason Mueller was the pinnacle of uprightness, integrity, and honor for going after Trump but similarly credentialed and experienced Barr is suddenly persona non grata. I'll let you connect the dots on that one.
 
He's not saying it yet, hence why he needs to investigate the matter. Even CNN acknowledges that Barr's position on whether or not spying occurred has not changed, much to their chagrin.



https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/01/poli...nald-trump-robert-mueller-congress/index.html

Liberals seems to have concluded that since the facts are not on their side they must discredit the messenger. For some reason Mueller was the pinnacle of uprightness, integrity, and honor for going after Trump but similarly credentialed and experienced Barr is suddenly persona non grata. I'll let you connect the dots on that one.


"I am not saying that improper surveillance occurred" Bill Barr

Remember that and you will be able to keep your head above water.
 
Btw, since someone else bumped the thread, it’s worth noting.

Yesterday was the first I’ve heard more than a passing reference to spying on npr. It’s pretty amazing watching them tiptoe around the issue. One lady got diarrhea of the mouth, and accidentally said wiretapping occurred, and you could hear her be like “oh shit, why’d I say that” as she stammered over the next few words.


At this point, it’s impossible to deny it happened. You either

A - take the governments word for it, and trust they broke zero protocols in their endeavor.

B - are intelligent.
 
Given that your reality isn't based on actual reality because you frequent websites like "easilydupedrightwingwacko.com", I understand why you think that.

Face facts Bob, even Trump's new shit eating personal attorney Barr, who we know is willing to mislead on basic facts, has said, when asked a direct question under oath: "I just want to make it clear... that I am not saying that improper surveillance occurred."
<WellThere>

Now how about that Comey/Buckethead link?

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Can you dudes ever just come up with your own original insults, or do you have some sort of perverse need to just repeat the same ones as everone else over and over and over again?
 
Admiral Mike Rogers

https://combatveteransforcongress.o...rogers-saved-us-massive-constitutional-crisis


1.) …”On numerous occasions the [Obama] intelligence community incidentally collected information about U.S. citizens involved in the Trump transition.”

2.) “Details about U.S. persons associated with the incoming administration; details with little or no apparent foreign intelligence value were widely disseminated in intelligence community reporting.”

3.) “Third, I have confirmed that additional names of Trump transition members were unmasked.”

4.) “Fourth and finally, I want to be clear; none of this surveillance was related to Russia, or the investigation of Russian activities.

“The House Intelligence Committee will thoroughly investigate surveillance and its subsequent dissemination, to determine a few things here that I want to read off:”

•“Who was aware of it?”

•“Why it was not disclosed to congress?”

•“Who requested and authorized the additional unmasking?”

•“Whether anyone directed the intelligence community to focus on Trump associates?”

•“And whether any laws, regulations or procedures were violated?”

“I have asked the Directors of the FBI, NSA and CIA to expeditiously comply with my March 15th (2017) letter -that you all received a couple of weeks ago- and to provide a full account of these surveillance activities.”

Again, this is why the intelligence reports seem likely to have been political opposition research -that was part of Obama’s PDB– unless it was a separate intelligence product, apart from the PDB, which was created for the Office of the President. [I view the latter as highly doubtful because it would be too risky for the President to be asking for specific ‘stand alone’ intelligence against political adversaries, ie candidate Donald Trump.]

…Here’s where all the dots connect:


Fast forward to 2018 – Aside from the larger Russian conspiracy narrative, up to now the controversial media story has been around the origin of the 2016 FISA warrant(s).
 
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