Crime Southern Baptist fire PR Chief over comments about Biden stepping down

[44nutman]

SBC’s PR chief fired after Biden statement 'immediately sparks backlash from far-right factions'

After President Joe Biden ended his reelection campaign on Sunday, July 21 and endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris for president, Brent Leatherwood — then president of the Southern Baptist Convention's public relations arm — applauded the decision as "selfless."Leatherwood argued, "We should...

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So the organization that covered for sexual Predators thought it was bad for their PR Chief saying Biden did the right thing by stepping down.
Southern Baptists Jesus is now Trump and will only accept hateful messages about Democrats.
As someone who grew up Southern Baptist I don’t even recognize what they have become. They are more concerned with being a political machine than actually opening a Bible.

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

At least their kids aren’t cutting off sex organs and denying reality

 

[44nutman]

At least their kids aren’t cutting off sex organs and denying reality

How do you feel about The Southern Baptist covering for sexual Predators whose most victims were kids.

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

How do you feel about The Southern Baptist covering for sexual Predators whose most victims were kids.

How do you feel about Epstein?

 

[Spam On Rye]

Don't prots believe in sola scriptura? What a mess American Christianity is.

 

[MMAisGod]

This is that "freedom of speech not freedom from consequences" I always hear about? Yea, it always sounds pretty ridiculous when it happens, firing people because they have a different view, but that's what everyone wants it to be like these days so it's what we'll get supported.

 

[Fedor>Cain]

SBC’s PR chief fired after Biden statement 'immediately sparks backlash from far-right factions'

After President Joe Biden ended his reelection campaign on Sunday, July 21 and endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris for president, Brent Leatherwood — then president of the Southern Baptist Convention's public relations arm — applauded the decision as "selfless."Leatherwood argued, "We should...

www.alternet.org

So the organization that covered for sexual Predators thought it was bad for their PR Chief saying Biden did the right thing by stepping down.
Southern Baptists Jesus is now Trump and will only accept hateful messages about Democrats.
As someone who grew up Southern Baptist I don’t even recognize what they have become. They are more concerned with being a political machine than actually opening a Bible.

As somebody who grew up around nothing but southern baptists, this is most certainly who they've always been lol.

 

[Islam Imamate]

This is that "freedom of speech not freedom from consequences" I always hear about? Yea, it always sounds pretty ridiculous when it happens, firing people because they have a different view, but that's what everyone wants it to be like these days so it's what we'll get supported.

What about this statement do you see as controversial?

Leatherwood argued, "We should all express our appreciation that President Biden has put the needs of the nation above his personal ambition. Despite what some partisans will say, to walk away from power is a selfless act — the kind that has become all too rare in our culture."

Do you think being fired for something like this is comparable to being fired for saying the N-word?

 

[MMAisGod]

Do you think being fired for something like this is comparable to being fired for saying the N-word?

Wow, that reach would make even Mr. Fantastic jealous. Rumor on the street is you've become more radical in your positions. Just from this ridiculous stretch of a strawman I'm inclined to believe so.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Wow, that reach would make even Mr. Fantastic jealous.

I specify the N-word because that is the quintessential controversial but protected speech that gets people fired for which people justify the firing with reference to "freedom of speech, not from consequences"

Of course there's many gradations of less controversial statements that have gotten people fired, including ones we would both agree were overreactions, but I'm starting with a clarifying question and then we can go from there. Do you think its reasonable to see why someone saying something like the N-word might trigger a reaction from employers in a way that is not reasonable if the same reaction were in response to the PR chief's comments? If you disagree, what about the PR chief's comments do you see as offensive or controversial?

Rumor on the street is you've become more radical in your positions. Just from this ridiculous stretch of a strawman I'm inclined to believe so.

Radical in what way? And according to who?

 

[MMAisGod]

I specify the N-word because that is the quintessential controversial but protected speech that gets people fired for which people justify the firing with reference to "freedom of speech, not from consequences"

Of course there's many gradations of less controversial statements that have gotten people fired, including ones we would both agree were overreactions, but I'm starting with a clarifying question and then we can go from there. Do you think its reasonable to see why someone saying something like the N-word might trigger a reaction from employers in a way that is not reasonable if the same reaction were in response to the PR chief's comments? If you disagree, what about the PR chief's comments do you see as offensive or controversial?

Radical in what way? And according to who?

I'll give you some advice that I should charge you for because it's so valuable. If you want to have a discussion with someone, a genuine or authentic discussion, I would suggest not having it start like this:

Person 1: This is what everyone allows, people getting punished for saying stuff that others disagree with, but everyone's okay with it so this is the stupid stuff we get

Person 2: So do you think someone getting fired for praising the President is equal to someone calling people the N Word?

Person 1, me, is going to automatically assume you have no intention of having any real dialogue when you make such a ridiculous comparison. Is punching someone in the face equal to the nuke dropped in Hiroshima? If you were in a different thread and said something like, "We have to do something about mental health, Red Flag laws aren't the end solution but they're decent for now", and someone replied "so you're saying you want to ban all gun ownership", it would sound pretty ridiculous and you would call them idiot etc xyz maga something and have a lot to say about that response right? This is how you sound here with such an outlandish reply that leaves no room for any real dialogue or quality discussion

But, you may be too far gone to understand or comprehend any of this that I'm saying. If that is the case, I will remember you for the great person you once were, and not who you have become.

 

[Osculater]

How do you feel about Epstein?

Trump thought he was a cool dude

 

[Osculater]

That's so dumb but it is us vs them mentality bullshit

 

[Islam Imamate]

I'll give you some advice that I should charge you for because it's so valuable. If you want to have a discussion with someone, a genuine or authentic discussion, I would suggest not having it start like this:

Person 1: This is what everyone allows, people getting punished for saying stuff that others disagree with, but everyone's okay with it so this is the stupid stuff we get

Person 2: So do you think someone getting fired for praising the President is equal to someone calling people the N Word?

Person 1, me, is going to automatically assume you have no intention of having any real dialogue when you make such a ridiculous comparison. Is punching someone in the face equal to the nuke dropped in Hiroshima? If you were in a different thread and said something like, "We have to do something about mental health, Red Flag laws aren't the end solution but they're decent for now", and someone replied "so you're saying you want to ban all gun ownership", it would sound pretty ridiculous and you would call them idiot etc xyz maga something and have a lot to say about that response right? This is how you sound here with such an outlandish reply that leaves no room for any real dialogue or quality discussion

But, you may be too far gone to understand or comprehend any of this that I'm saying. If that is the case, I will remember you for the great person you once were, and not who you have become.

Buddy, you cited "freedom of speech but not from consequences" in the context of this thread where a guy got fired for saying this:

Leatherwood argued, "We should all express our appreciation that President Biden has put the needs of the nation above his personal ambition. Despite what some partisans will say, to walk away from power is a selfless act — the kind that has become all too rare in our culture."

So yeah right off the bat I didn't think you put much thought into what you said

Nothing there comes off as anywhere near controversial enough to me to justify being fired and vague references to other incidents seems like a really cheap way to hand waive it away as not signaling something unique here.

Now, that's not to say there isn't a counter-argument here. You could've said "Of course its nowhere near controversial but look this guy here in a similar position got fired for saying something far less controversial than the N-word"

Or a more interesting argument I'm open to would be something like "On its face its doesn't seem controversial but in the context of the SBC and its norms and customs this was out of the ordinary bounds" though if you went that way it seems that we'd get to the actual heart of the matter; that the SBC seems to be enforcing strict fealty to Trump due to a vocal and influential pro-Trump contingent rather than any real set of norms or customs independent of that which were violated.

The fact that you got immediately defensive and refused to engage on the topic at hand suggests to me you didn't really have much to say beyond the what aboutism and so in light of that, cheers

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

Trump thought he was a cool dude

Bill Clinton thought he could fill the void Hillary left

 

[Bobby00]

Are those the ones that go to military vet funerals to show signs how they deserved to die?

 

[Helden]

Are those the ones that go to military vet funerals to show signs how they deserved to die?

Pretty sure those are a different breed of Trump loving, child abusing, red blooded patriots called Wesboro something, but I could be wrong.

 

[Osculater]

Bill Clinton thought he could fill the void Hillary left

I thought Billy was into fat chicks

 

[Islam Imamate]

Are those the ones that go to military vet funerals to show signs how they deserved to die?

No, that's the Westboro Baptist Church which is a fringe sect.

The SBC is the largest Protestant denomination and the 2nd largest Christian body in the US.

 

[Bobby00]

No, that's the Westboro Baptist Church which is a fringe sect.

The SBC is the largest Protestant denomination and the 2nd largest Christian body in the US.

Ah i see thanks for the info.