Something I really EFF'in Hate in grappling .

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  1. Nickynoneck

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    Is That one douche bag that picks on Girls , I never understand it either he's the one throwing them with all his might in judo or always going out of his way to roll with them in bjj and is totally rough with them for no reason .
    I dont get it .
    When i was doing judo we had more then one And I would notice it and purposely make it a goal to be way rougher with those guys then other's .
    In Bjj i havent encounterd it as much only one guy that has sense left but man every girl would get creeped out by him because of his constant need to roll with them and then thrash them . I am not saying I am a hero or anything I am just venting and wondering how you guys treat those kinda guys at your gym .
    Its just something that gets on my nerves as a person that loves the sport and always encourage's anyone no matter what sex or age to try it but then someone like that ruins it and makes everyone look like a women hater or pervert .
     
  2. BAKM

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    Ya that's pretty douchy. There's only one girl that trains at our gym and she's usually rolling with one of the smaller guy in the class. The only idea I can think of is either rolling with the girl yourself or roll with the douch. But I don't think you should feel the need to be pertective, the only thing that should be judged in a gym is your skill.
     
  3. Bullheaded

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    Why don't you tell him rather than rough the guy out. Do you really think he'll understand by punching him? The guy will just think that you don't like him and won't link the two if you don't talk to him.

    I make an effort to roll with girls personally, because girls that trained with me in judo and bjj often complained that guys are too shy to roll with them. I was also told that I used too much strength once with a girl. I think it was because I was trying to snatch an armbar from the bottom out of sheer strength which wasn't really smart. She never complained herself, but I didn't do it again afterward. Actually my instructor complained a few weeks afterward that I wasn't using my strength enough agaisnt him.

    Knowing how to use your strength isn't really easy for some people, myself included, but talking will highlight it more than roughing a guy out.
     
  4. Nickynoneck

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    Like i siad I am not playing the hero its just something I observe And wonder whats wrong with that guy why would he feel the need to mess with someone considerabley weaker then them ?

    Thats all I am not feeling the need to be prodective they can just tell the instructor its just something that boggles my mind that people do to other people in grappling kinda like the higher belts who always roll with white belts and wreck them for no reason it doesnt compute with me .
     
  5. Nickynoneck

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    LOL I dont punch the guy ! Just go alittle more rougher . Usually its no helping the guy you can tell them but a week after there back at it , I have had some cases where the whole club notices and will work the guy really hard and then tell them after class why .
    I do the same thing when i roll with anyone smaller then me I just do technique no use in over powering then to the point they cant do anything it makes your technique better .
     
  6. Fedorzilla

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    well, I'd explain it to him and tell him why it's unacceptable. If he's a dick and doesn't listen... and unless he's a BB, I suggest you do everything in your power to wreck the shit out of him every time you see it happen.

    Just be waiting when he's done and just say "we're sparring next" or have your instructor do the same.
     
  7. BAKM

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    it usually means the guys are bitches with no desire to challenge themselves and think they're the shit for beating people that know they can beat.
     
  8. Shemhazai

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    Going rough is definitely uncalled for, but at the same time, I know many girls hate it when guys go way too easy on them. Unless you have very few girls at your gym, rolling with a guy (or at least a much bigger guy) is often intended to serve as a test of their technique against a stronger opponent. Unless you are also on a higher technical level than her, I'd say it's good to give her some real resistance, as long as you don't just "HULK SMASH!" the whole way.

    That being said, it never hurts to clarify before rolling whether they want you to put up some resistance, or just 'flow roll' nice and easy.
     
  9. method115

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    I hate rolling with girls and being one of the smaller guys I have to roll with them a lot. It's uncomfortable to me and I feel like my whole game changes. Plus I've been lifting weights for about 5 years before I ever started BJJ so not using my strength is a very hard thing for me.
     
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    I would look at Shemhazai's post. There's no need not to use your strength, if they feel your going to hard they'll let you know(unless they have, then you might want to tell them to find someone else to roll with).
     
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    shit in his pillowcase
     
  12. Red Harvest

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    HA!!!

    I'm a 205'er and I have no problem rolling with the girls. I roll with them just like I would a regular guy. I always rolled light to focus on technique. 30-50% max. Unfortunately you'll find a douchebag like that in every class. It's your professor's job to determine what's too rough and what's not for certain people.
     
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    I would say there's a real possibility the guy may be get turned on by the feeling of physically dominating women. The next time you see him doing this, see if you can tell if he has a stiffy. I'm being serious here.
     
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    That is a dick move, I generally go a little easier on the women I train with
     
  15. Nickynoneck

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    This is what I think it is , so i try my hardest to make him feel like a little bitch when i roll with them .

    There is no one at my club that does this as of right now there was one at one point and we purposly kept him away from the girls when we could but you could tell he went out of his way to roll with them when he could .
     
  16. David Kennedy

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    Maybe its cuz guys in Nova Scotia are used to roughing up women....

    I kid, I kid.

    Where do you train by the way? is it Gracie Barra?
     
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    The teacher at the school should say something to him. If the teacher isn't saying anything then maybe you should speak to the teacher first.
     
  18. HulmeHardy**

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    TBH I Dont like Rolling With Women(only rolled with 1) - I Find It To Uncomfortable - Tho We Only Have One Women At Our Class And She Well TBH I Dont Know Why Shes There Beacuse She Never Really Does Any Techniques Right, She Might Be There To Socialise Like The Middle Age Women Do.

    But I Would Find It Hella Hard To Roll Wid Some1 Who Was Very Good Lookin - You Would Have The RNC Position Then Be Like
    "mmmmmmm This Hair Does Smell Really Nice.......Coconutty" hahahah

    Then Having Her In A Triangle Choke While Tryna Push Her Head Down - Out Of Class Thats Rape But In Class Its Cool.
     
  19. ShowUsYaJits

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    It's not that much fun rolling against women, being a moderately bigger guy. I usually adjust my strength until they win a bit more than I do. And give up the mount, lol.

    Seriously, how do you notice this? When I roll, I am usually oblivious to other people around me, unless I'm charged with walking around watching for people. And then I spend about 25% of the time making sure people don't bump into each other and the rest observing the most skilled people I can see roll (especially if it's vs someone I find difficult).
     
  20. hughes fan

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    I tend to stay away from sparring or rolling with girls because I throw jabs all the time and throws my technique out. I would rather roll with a heavier guy who I know is better than me and can really make me work.
     

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