Crime Someone tried to assassinate Donald Trump at his rally in Butler, Pennsylvania

[MusterX]

In one way I agree with you. The issue is then I think about the story with the person running into the white house. That person got into the Whitehouse and was stopped by an off duty SS agent. I think that's even crazier than what happened to Trump honestly.

The Secret Service needs to be cleaned up, the head needs to be fired and the agency needs new leadership, at the minimum.

 

[Bwagster]

He donated $15 to a left org; could have been for any number of reasons - abortion, anti-Trump, oddly may have even been anti-gun.

My point is that you can't just label it as "them". And I do agree that he was probably just nuts and that it was to be expected. You can't call the other guy Hitler and not realize that some nut will tr something - much like claiming an election was rigged and then feigning shock that someone died trying to overturn the results.

I label him as batshit crazy, them are the a-holes who push their buttons.

 

[spamking]

Obviously there was a failure by the local police responsible for screening people coming into the area, that wouldn't be the responsibility of the SS however.

The ultimate responsibility lies with the SS. That area should've been locked down and nobody allowed in.

 

[Barteh]

The Secret Service needs to be cleaned up, the head needs to be fired and the agency needs new leadership, at the minimum.

Trump's team also needs to be beefed up and the DEI hires that fucked up need to go.

 

[Corona]

SS is lucky there weren't any Colombian fans there otherwise they would've been cooked.

 

[Rational Poster]

Nobody has said it was their job to prevent literally every possible attack. But to say the building this guy shot from shouldn't have been secured is complete stupidity.

I think it's really easy to say a building with no roof access should be secured after it was used to shoot from.

 

[spamking]

I think it's really easy to say a building with no roof access should be secured after it was used to shoot from.

Oh my gosh . . . . are you being this obtuse on purpose?

 

[Rational Poster]

Even for a shit poster like yourself this is below your usual (already low) standard. It's not even fun to engage with when you put so little effort into your trolling.

Don't worry I still don't care what you think about anything.

 

[method115]

The Secret Service needs to be cleaned up, the head needs to be fired and the agency needs new leadership, at the minimum.

Something needs to change clearly.

 

[Rational Poster]

Oh my gosh . . . . are you being this obtuse on purpose?

No I think Monday morning quarterbacks are silly is all especially when almost no time has passed to properly investigate.

 

[BFoe]

So is this hissyfit I hear about Biden’s “bullseye” comment.

Of all the people I've put on my ignore list, you're the one I hate having to do it to the most by far. But my zero-tolerance policy towards those who support evil and the extinction of humanity still stands, even if said people genuinely believe they're the good guys. That's actualy the worst kind of evil. It's been real but...bye.

I don’t give one good motherfuck.

For as much as you call libs triggered, no surprise that it’s you who can’t handle opinions that weren’t even directed at you. Toodles.

 

[Mask Of Winters]

Zero sympathy. His apology was bogus, as he'd doubled down on his initial post several times. These are the types of people we are dealing with. Again, the disappointment that Trump wasn't killed is the quintessential "mask-off" moment for the modern left.

Okay okay, *one* more post. There's no doubt that firefighter's idea of "being threatened" is people telling him on his own Twitter account how evil he is for saying evil things. That's it. Far leftists are infamous for expanding the definitions of certain words far bigger than what they actually mean to the point where they stop having any meaning at all.

Glad he's gone, anyway. Knowing him, he'd refuse to even try to put out any fire at the house or business of anybody he even thinks isn't "woke" enough. A whole lot of employers need to be doing a whole lot of firing today. If you ran a business or company, how could you continue to employ anybody who roots for violence and death that much? It would only be a matter of time before someone like that assaulted a coworker--or worse. They might even decide to come after you for being an "oppressive boss".

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Theres been alot of accusing people of having double standards. I get it forsure. However, to be clear, we all have them. We are all inherently hypocrites and moral hypocrites. Theres alot of reasons for this but its a truth.

This also seems to be the right-wing response every single time they get caught in hypocrisy. Suddenly it's both sidesism and never just a clear admission that yes, we've been full of s*** and we have lied and gas lit in this case and we've been wrong and we're wrong now. How about just say that??

Trump spewed endlessly hateful rhetoric and his cockroaches followed and were worse online and told us all that if their words hurt we were babies and our feelings didn't matter. Now suddenly calling that out rigorously and honestly has caused an assassination attempt! So suddenly words about mean words has the power to kill.

That's a pretty intense point of hypocrisy. And one I will say has been completely caused by the right and Trump.

I would just like to see the Republicans admit now that Trump's words have the power to kill and that all the hatred that right wingers have spewed towards the left and lying about elections and all kinds of other things has the power to kill.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Notice the contrast.

Its Libs of TikTok. Her whole gimmick is to find the most hyper partisan story for confirmation bias purposes.

 

[Barteh]

Looks like we're back to the usual Sherdog standards of about half of the posts in a thread being partisan hacks deliberately derailing the thread and people responding to them. I'm still wondering if these people are getting paid to do this kinda shit.

 

[Andy Capp]

I see that I was right to add my second paragraph to show how hilariously predictable this forum is.

Get the opinion of a handful of random people? Perfect evidence because they said what I liked! Thorough analysis with clearly defined parameters one can discuss? Conspiracy!

Dude, how dare you criticise his right to bare arms? I'm sure they're most impressive to the ladies bridge club.

Well people are claiming Biden and the dems rhetoric caused this and that they wanted it to happen.

Some are claiming their conspiracy BS about how the SS allowed this to happen.

Others are just blaming DEI in the SS for their ineptitude.

There are lots of angles.

And they all sound dumb as hell. To me, the most likely scenario is crazy guy did something crazy. He got laughed out of he gun club and decided "this'll show em'". End of story.

Edit: except for the need to address why such an obvious sport for an overlook of the event wasn't secured, of course. It's likely just plain ol' complacency though.

 

[SandisLL]

You mean, after they gave him a chance to kill a former president, they "protected the VIP." That is not the kind of protection you want to have lmao.

Yes but is this councidence that shooter appeared very precise to kill one from public like in slaughterhause scene and accidentally had missed to land normal shot on Trump?

While we recently had attention seeking student in Prague. He had killed mainly ....innocent and unramed friendly students. They died.
Investigation still is done deeper why police had told special tasks forces wrong address... Ofc they didn't had used sounds etc...and still looks that crazy idiot had noticed them and after this get even more into mad mode.
One from notable assassination scenes I'm Israel had been done by pro Israel oriented " student " who assumed that government Is too soft and wanted to get his name into history books.....this painful reality...

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

amazing how the opinions of the leftist posters on here change immediately after the MSNBC pundits come out with a new talking point.

 

[spamking]

No I think Monday morning quarterbacks are silly is all especially when almost no time has passed to properly investigate.

So you don't think that entire compound where the building the shooter used should've been locked down completely to prevent entry? The SS locks down large portions of entire cities when VIPs visit. Not locking down that property seems very careless.

I don't think anything I've said equals Monday morning quarterbacking.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Its almost like you're trying to justify an assassination attempt on a former president of the US.

You've lost your way as a basic human being.

No it isn't. But this is just the kind of double speak and lying that we pointed out Trump engages in constantly and that you guys told us didn't matter and we were just being pussies of it bothered us.

My position on this shooting has been abundantly clear in this thread and I've been perfectly consistent about how it is absolutely disgusting.

But I was shocked to hear Republicans start to blame Democrats for it and to hear that it was just our words that caused it.... our words about other people's words even....

I see this kind of behavior in teenagers who have no capacity for self-reflection at all and for whom everything is someone else's fault every single time. That's a kind of victimhood that the right used to call out on the left....

It's almost like everything you guys say is just a projection of your own issues onto somebody else and that there's no real insight at all coming from you guys other than just to project your own issues on to the other side.