Crime Someone tried to assassinate Donald Trump at his rally in Butler, Pennsylvania

We’re not talking about Roger Stone, and i think his rhetoric in that regard is gross.

Trump has not told anyone to physically assault anyone. I’m not even going to do the “whataboutism” but there are plenty of Democrats, your president included, who have specifically endorsed and alluded to their want and request for physical violence.

You hate this guy so much, whether just or unjust, that you have to manipulate and mischaracterize the things he says to further enrage yourself. Not healthy. Plenty of politicians, Roger Stone included, that I don’t like or even greatly dislike, but I don’t have to wishfully manipulate their rhetoric to make them fit into a box so i can hate them more.

Even now, it’s not policy or action you’re focused on; it’s simply “this fucking guy is an evil dictator fascist”. Fine. If that’s how you feel its how you feel, but there’s very little separating you and the QAnon dorks wanting to hang Mike Pence.

"Trump has not told anyone to physically assault anyone"

Trump's first words after surviving an assassination attempt;

"FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT"
 
We’re not talking about Roger Stone, and i think his rhetoric in that regard is gross.

Trump has not told anyone to physically assault anyone. I’m not even going to do the “whataboutism” but there are plenty of Democrats, your president included, who have specifically endorsed and alluded to their want and request for physical violence.

You hate this guy so much, whether just or unjust, that you have to manipulate and mischaracterize the things he says to further enrage yourself. Not healthy. Plenty of politicians, Roger Stone included, that I don’t like or even greatly dislike, but I don’t have to wishfully manipulate their rhetoric to make them fit into a box so i can hate them more.

Even now, it’s not policy or action you’re focused on; it’s simply “this fucking guy is an evil dictator fascist”. Fine. If that’s how you feel its how you feel, but there’s very little separating you and the QAnon dorks wanting to hang Mike Pence.
Why aren’t we talking about Roger Stone? Look through this thread.
Is every post which highlights allegedly violent left rhetoric taking the rhetoric directly from Biden’s mouth? No, almost none of them are. There’s posts from all sorts of left-leaning nobodies. as well as some post from other left-leaning politicians.

But if I do the same with Trump supporters and right-leaning politicians, you come back with “oh, we aren’t talking about them”?

Also Breaking @BFoe

Yes, I’ve already posted on Cannon’s utter retardation. Hopefully will get corrected on appeal, and Cannon removed.
 
Come on man. Clearly it was not. That entire area should've been locked down and nobody allowed to enter during the speech. The shooter should have never had the opportunity to enter that property.

Cleary it was since the Secret Service sniper immediately returned fire and saved the former President's life and others.
 
Yeah, the greater failure seems to be on local police responsible for screening the area and not engaging with the suspect when they located him, giving him a chance to fire.

The Secret Service eliminated the threat within 15 seconds and had thrown themselves on top of Trump faster than that. I would say the Secret Service are the main reason Trump is still alive.

Wild take, the SS has the responsibility to protect Trump. The fact that a shooter got some shots off is a MASSIVE failure and it really cannot be overstated how big of an SS fuck up this was.

The only question is whether they're personal errors (we've seen the famous pics of that one DEI hire hide like a coward) or if the error was at the top. Probably a mix of both and heads need to roll there. To be clear, that means people at the SS need to be fired or even worse than that.
 
"Trump has not told anyone to physically assault anyone"

Trump's first words after surviving an assassination attempt;

"FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT"
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Wild take, the SS has the responsibility to protect Trump. The fact that a shooter got some shots off is a MASSIVE failure and it really cannot be overstated how big of an SS fuck up this was.

The only question is whether they're personal errors (we've seen the famous pics of that one DEI hire hide like a coward) or if the error was at the top. Probably a mix of both and heads need to roll there. To be clear, that means people at the SS need to be fired or even worse than that.

The SS's job isn't to prevent literally every possible attack from occurring, it's their job to react to attacks and protect the VIP, which they did.
 
There is no probably about it. A high school senior with no training could have set up a more secure perimeter. Oh look, a building with a line of sight on the stage, shouldn't we put a sniper on top of that building? The more I think about this the more trouble I have accepting its "gross negligence" or "incompetence." A freaking high school gamer kid could have done better.

In one way I agree with you. The issue is then I think about the story with the person running into the white house. That person got into the Whitehouse and was stopped by an off duty SS agent. I think that's even crazier than what happened to Trump honestly.
 
Cleary it was since the Secret Service sniper immediately returned fire and saved the former President's life and others.
What are you not getting? The guy should never had the chance to grab a ladder and climb up to that roof in the first place. The sniper should never have needed to return fire at all. Sure, the SS reacted properly and stopped the thread after it happened, but it should've never gotten to where that guy found his way onto the property.
 
"Trump has not told anyone to physically assault anyone"

Trump's first words after surviving an assassination attempt;

"FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT"

Even for a shit poster like yourself this is below your usual (already low) standard. It's not even fun to engage with when you put so little effort into your trolling.
 
Wonder if this changes Trump. Imagine that guy coming out all "born again" n' shit, and preaching love and happiness for all?

I've known some sharks in business who have been touched by their own mortality later in life. They're never the same afterwards.


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Why aren’t we talking about Roger Stone? Look through this thread.
Is every post which highlights allegedly violent left rhetoric taking the rhetoric directly from Biden’s mouth? No, almost none of them are. There’s posts from all sorts of left-leaning nobodies. as well as some post from other left-leaning politicians.

But if I do the same with Trump supporters and right-leaning politicians, you come back with “oh, we aren’t talking about them”?


Yes, I’ve already posted on Cannon’s utter retardation. Hopefully will get corrected on appeal, and Cannon removed.
Of all the people I've put on my ignore list, you're the one I hate having to do it to the most by far. But my zero-tolerance policy towards those who support evil and the extinction of humanity still stands, even if said people genuinely believe they're the good guys. That's actualy the worst kind of evil. It's been real but...bye.
 
The SS's job isn't to prevent literally every possible attack from occurring, it's their job to react to attacks and protect the VIP, which they did.

You mean, after they gave him a chance to kill a former president, they "protected the VIP." That is not the kind of protection you want to have lmao.
 
I like how he's acting like a real victim here. He wasn't asked to resign, no, he's resigning because he's being threatened. And his family is being threatened. He has lost so much, and will lose so much more. Poor guy. Please feel bad for him. If you don't feel bad for him you should take a long hard look in the mirror.
Zero sympathy. His apology was bogus, as he'd doubled down on his initial post several times. These are the types of people we are dealing with. Again, the disappointment that Trump wasn't killed is the quintessential "mask-off" moment for the modern left.
 
What are you not getting? The guy should never had the chance to grab a ladder and climb up to that roof in the first place. The sniper should never have needed to return fire at all. Sure, the SS reacted properly and stopped the thread after it happened, but it should've never gotten to where that guy found his way onto the property.

Obviously there was a failure by the local police responsible for screening people coming into the area, that wouldn't be the responsibility of the SS however.
 
Aiight, I've had my fill of this place for the day. When it began I honestly wasn't sure I'd even be posting here but just when I think I'm out, you guys drag me back in <lol>
 
The SS's job isn't to prevent literally every possible attack from occurring, it's their job to react to attacks and protect the VIP, which they did.
Nobody has said it was their job to prevent literally every possible attack. But to say the building this guy shot from shouldn't have been secured is complete stupidity.
 
It is pretty pathetic how you'll excuse all of Trump's inciteful rhetoric but pin the actions of a loner 20 year old on the entire democratic party.
isnt that what the left have been screaming for the last 8 years? if you're a republican you're automatically a whit cis fascist who wants everyone dead and is fostering a climate of (imaginary self-indulged) genocide?
 
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