Crime Someone tried to assassinate Donald Trump at his rally in Butler, Pennsylvania

[nostradumbass]

Source?

Rep Waltz from the armed services committee on the 3 offshore accounts, him having a 2nd phone at his house is in all the MSM.

Thomas Matthew Crooks: What We Know About the Trump Rally Shooter

Thomas Matthew Crooks, a 20-year-old Pennsylvania resident whose motives remain unclear, was identified by the FBI as the sole suspect in the Trump assassination attempt.

time.com

 

[LMP]

I mean what really takes more of a leap of faith at this point? That like 50 people were all dangerously incompetent, got someone shot and put the country within an inch of civil war, and then "whoops, my bad, still keeping my job though", or is it even possible that it was lax on purpose?

Like I'm pretty confident that the agents who jumped on him were on the ball and did exactly what they were supposed to, but somebody assigns the posts

Maybe there is an explanation that for some reason they aren't making public, but the shooter hid the gun way before the event so he could come back to it without getting caught, cased the building days in advance, then hours before, so how the hell did he know in advance that the roof would be open?

The shooter didn't know all of that would happen, but he was willing to give it a shot. I think a lot of people wanting to make this into a Deep State conspiracy over look that part. This happened because the Shooter actually followed through on trying to kill Trump.

 

[kflo]

Rep Waltz from the armed services committee on the 3 offshore accounts, him having a 2nd phone at his house is in all the MSM.

Thomas Matthew Crooks: What We Know About the Trump Rally Shooter

Thomas Matthew Crooks, a 20-year-old Pennsylvania resident whose motives remain unclear, was identified by the FBI as the sole suspect in the Trump assassination attempt.

time.com

i didn't see a mention of the offshore accounts in that article. can you point it out?

 

[jimjamjammer]

Odd things to say about a supposedly healthy guy.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

So maybe I was right, maybe he's on his way out.Hope he's ok and recovering.

 

[nostradumbass]

i didn't see a mention of the offshore accounts in that article. can you point it out?

The realclearpolitics link I posted in #9472 has the video of rep. waltz from the armed services committee talking about it.

Might be like a binance or some other crypto
account, but he has 3 and he said they have to follow a bunch of steps to find out what they are.

 

[nostradumbass]

The shooter didn't know all of that would happen, but he was willing to give it a shot. I think a lot of people wanting to make this into a Deep State conspiracy over look that part. This happened because the Shooter actually followed through on trying to kill Trump.

Really? He cased the place days in advance, came back several times to the same spot, hid the gun registered to his dad near the building that he had no idea would be left open on the near impossibility it would be left open, and if it wasn't, then secret service find his dad's gun stashed and his receipts for bullets and ladders, but by some freaky fluke the one spot he guessed just happened to be the one spot that ended up being open?

The only "wanting it to be" I'm seeing in here or anywhere else is from everybody who already hated Trump before who've absolutely written off any possibility of bad motives and are having to really bend over backwards to chalk up like 50 things to incompetence and coincidence. And those same people are more willing to believe Trump staged somebody shooting his ear off from 140 yards and killing people in the crowd than to acknowledge than that there could be anybody who took the "all's well that ends well" approach to leaving holes in security with a serious threat.

Some of the reactions you can chalk up to incompetence, like some thinking it isn't their post and somebody else has it covered, but the negligence in the general planning is outrageous and borderline criminal itself, and nobody even lost their job.

 

[rearnakedchoke]

At the 15 second mark, trump making fun of the assault on Pelosi

 

[kflo]

The realclearpolitics link I posted in #9472 has the video of rep. waltz from the armed services committee talking about it.

Might be like a binance or some other crypto
account, but he has 3 and he said they have to follow a bunch of steps to find out what they are.

so the only news source is a video from a rep?

i've seen 3 foreign encrypted platforms referenced, not offshore accounts.

and i mean, he had to know his chance at survival was almost 0.

 

[shockaholic12]

Are you a bot or just not a strong reader? "Screeching" and "cabal" over and over in your posts is like you don't really even think and just have a mad libs of a couple responses that you alter slightly.

I brought up your join date because it rules out you being younger than 17 even if I don't know your birth date, and for some reason you've taken a weird offense to that being pointed out and have cried about it twice now.

A wiki link to a dozen conspiracy theories isn't "walking us through" anything, you clown, and that there are over a dozen 61 years later with none of them being certain should make you feel a little dumb for demanding a "detailed plan" less than a week after this one.

This particular one could be as simple as someone being assigned to the roof and just didn't show. The snipers that were inside the building could have been moved there at the last minute, which is why the sniper who did kill the kid had to hesitate to make sure he was killed an actual shooter and there wasn't already a sniper on that roof. Were there any plain clothes security anywhere, was there any difference between SS and local PD uniforms, were they all aware of each other's weapons. If we don't even know the actual security plan, or the security plan for any of the previous rallies or events, how the shit is anybody supposed to give you detailed plan of whether it was poorly planned or whether the plans were fine and somebody no showed or deviated and fucked them up?

You're skipping the first 75% of this conspiracy. Try starting at the beginning...

-Some shadow group of politicians want trump dead. For some reason calling them a cabal endless triggers you when that's the literal definition of the word so lets keep using it. You're the one saying they exists in the first place.
Cabal -noun

1. a secret political clique or fraction.

-They decide to go to the secret service with this plot. Not the group I would approach considering it's full of highly vetted people many whom are conservatives who have sworn to not let this happen so you're starting to lose me but whatever.

-The plot is not to kill trump, but to coordinate with his secret service supervisors to do their job poorly and cross their fingers some random tries and succeeds. For whatever reason the SS agrees to a plot to potentially publicly humiliate themselves. But again, this highly risky plot all hinges on whether or not a some random incel or other third party decides to shoot at trump at some point. Which is crazy thing to hinge your whole conspiracy plot on.

-this culminates in PA with the heads of the SS coordinating with those in the field to purposely leave a roof unsecured. Except they had requested the local police department post patrol outside the building to secure it before so the police department is maybe in on it too?

-And then it all doesn't work.


I'm going to file this one under "batshit conspiracies" along with "trump is releasing the kraken" and your gay pelosi fantasy.

 

[kflo]

Really? He cased the place days in advance, came back several times to the same spot, hid the gun registered to his dad near the building that he had no idea would be left open on the near impossibility it would be left open, and if it wasn't, then secret service find his dad's gun stashed and his receipts for bullets and ladders, but by some freaky fluke the one spot he guessed just happened to be the one spot that ended up being open?

The only "wanting it to be" I'm seeing in here or anywhere else is from everybody who already hated Trump before who've absolutely written off any possibility of bad motives and are having to really bend over backwards to chalk up like 50 things to incompetence and coincidence. And those same people are more willing to believe Trump staged somebody shooting his ear off from 140 yards and killing people in the crowd than to acknowledge than that there could be anybody who took the "all's well that ends well" approach to leaving holes in security with a serious threat.

Some of the reactions you can chalk up to incompetence, like some thinking it isn't their post and somebody else has it covered, but the negligence in the general planning is outrageous and borderline criminal itself, and nobody even lost their job.

again, you're the one who is desperately trying to imply a big conspiracy, but framing it as the "i'm only asking questions here" guy. you know you can't piece together a plausible "bad motives" narrative that makes any sense at all without it being a huge CT.

noone lost their job yet. it's still pretty early on.

 

[Barteh]

Starting to think the whole incompetency theory is wrong. Too many things went wrong and nobody was held accountable for it?

Yeah that makes no sense.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Kimberly Cheatle is being grilled by Congress right now.

 

[nostradumbass]

You're skipping the first 75% of this conspiracy. Try starting at the beginning...

-Some shadow group of politicians want trump dead. For some reason calling them a cabal endless triggers you when that's the literal definition of the word so lets keep using it. You're the one saying they exists in the first place.
Cabal -noun

1. a secret political clique or fraction.

-They decide to go to the secret service with this plot. Not the group I would approach considering it's full of highly vetted people many whom are conservatives who have sworn to not let this happen so you're starting to lose but whatever.

-The plot is not to kill trump, but to coordinate with his secret service supervisors to do their job poorly and cross their fingers some random tries and succeeds. For whatever reason the SS agrees to a plot to potentially publicly humiliate themselves. But again, this highly risky plot all hinges on whether or not a some random incel or other third party decides to shoot at trump at some point. Which is crazy thing to hinge your whole conspiracy plot on.

-this culminates in PA with the heads of the SS coordinating with those in the field to purposely leave a roof unsecured. Except they had requested the local police department post patrol outside the building to secure it before so the police department is maybe in on it too?

-And then it all doesn't work.


I'm going to file this one under "batshit conspiracies" along with "trump is releasing the kraken" and your gay pelosi fantasy.

I mean your previous post was "aiming for the head is already a rookie mistake", when Trump wears a bullet proof vest, the last assassinated president was shot in the head, and how was this shooter killed? Oh right, shot in the head, which according to you is a "rookie mistake". You should stick to just saying "cabal" and "screeching" over and over and coming up with elaborate straw men to wrestle with.

 

[Xanzito]

The shooter didn't know all of that would happen, but he was willing to give it a shot.

 

[shockaholic12]

I mean your previous post was "aiming for the head is already a rookie mistake", when Trump wears a bullet proof vest, the last assassinated president was shot in the head, and how was this shooter killed? Oh right, shot in the head, which according to you is a "rookie mistake". You should stick to just saying "cabal" and "screeching" over and over and coming up with elaborate straw men to wrestle with.

What is the definition of a cabal?

Did you not imply some secret group of people in the government could have hatched this conspiracy?

I just want to get to the bottom of why that word cuts you so deeply.

 

[Barteh]

Kimberly Cheatle is being grilled by Congress right now.

Some crazy bitch from Washington going on about "assault rifles" and "high capacity magazines" lmao.

What the fuck is this shit show. Aren't they supposed to ask this Secret Circus clown questions about the shooting?

 

[Bwagster]

FBI director is getting grilled yet hasn’t answered any questions, but leave it to a democrat to push gun violence during the questioning. These people suck!

 

[kflo]

Starting to think the whole incompetency theory is wrong. Too many things went wrong and nobody was held accountable for it?

Yeah that makes no sense.

what's the more plausible scenario?

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Some crazy bitch from Washington going on about "assault rifles" and "high capacity magazines" lmao.

What the fuck is this shit show. Aren't they supposed to ask this Secret Circus clown questions about the shooting?

DEI Barbie here needs to be fired ASAP, along with Agent Fupa who can't holster her pistol properly.