Solo Judo drills?

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Hey all my judo enthusiasts, I'm looking for some solo Judo drills (I see a lot of high level players working foot movement/with bands) to add to the end of my morning workout, when I'm usually by myself. I'm godawful at Judo and a disgrace to even a whitebelt, so any videos or extra effort with explanation would be greatly appreciated. If you have any tips on progression (i.e. "once you get this drill, start adding this,") or frequency/number each time, also would love. As a final request, do you do them to both sides or just your strong side? I've heard conflicting info.

Thank y'all.
 
I'm sure it's the same drill you've seen, but a few of our guys will fold their belt in half and then put each end around a pole or a tree. Then they hold each end and practice their turn for various throws.

Another one I've seen is using something to represent their opponent's feet. We have a couple L-shaped pieces of PVC in the dojo for that, they actually kind of resemble feet. Guys will set them about shoulder width apart to practice breaking the plane on shots or throws like drop seoi nage. It's also good for practicing ankle picks or an outside single.
 
Sorry, you're an authority around here, so you're not really allowed to ask for advice. It muddles up the hierarchy.
 
I'm sure it's the same drill you've seen, but a few of our guys will fold their belt in half and then put each end around a pole or a tree. Then they hold each end and practice their turn for various throws.

Another one I've seen is using something to represent their opponent's feet. We have a couple L-shaped pieces of PVC in the dojo for that, they actually kind of resemble feet. Guys will set them about shoulder width apart to practice breaking the plane on shots or throws like drop seoi nage. It's also good for practicing ankle picks or an outside single.

Actual shoes work well for simulating the feet too. Just take your shoes off and put them in front of you for instant feet. It is useful for practicing entries.
 
Hey all my judo enthusiasts, I'm looking for some solo Judo drills (I see a lot of high level players working foot movement/with bands) to add to the end of my morning workout, when I'm usually by myself. I'm godawful at Judo and a disgrace to even a whitebelt, so any videos or extra effort with explanation would be greatly appreciated. If you have any tips on progression (i.e. "once you get this drill, start adding this,") or frequency/number each time, also would love. As a final request, do you do them to both sides or just your strong side? I've heard conflicting info.

Thank y'all.
Here you go.

Judo Training with a tree:
Judo 'Seoi Nage' strength exercise drill - YouTube

Judo Tree - YouTube
 
Sorry, you're an authority around here, so you're not really allowed to ask for advice. It muddles up the hierarchy.

Bu-bu-but I suck at Judo.

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I'm sure it's the same drill you've seen, but a few of our guys will fold their belt in half and then put each end around a pole or a tree. Then they hold each end and practice their turn for various throws.

Another one I've seen is using something to represent their opponent's feet. We have a couple L-shaped pieces of PVC in the dojo for that, they actually kind of resemble feet. Guys will set them about shoulder width apart to practice breaking the plane on shots or throws like drop seoi nage. It's also good for practicing ankle picks or an outside single.

Does the belt or a stretchy band work better? It seems like the belt wouldn't have much give.

Would you mind elaborating on the breaking the plane/the rest? No worries if no time or it's hard to type.
 
Well, you just about said it.

If they're solo drills, bands work great. Here's a twist that I can up with:

Get a pair of shoes and place them on the ground maybe 6 inches in front of where the band is anchored. There are three different ways to place them. For this, I'll just assume you play right handed (right hand on lapel/left hand on sleeve) traditional grip.

Now, place the shoes in neutral position (like you're standing at ease in the military), shoulder width apart. Now, create an equilateral triangle (all sides/angles equal) with something--a white belt, cardboard, tape three rulers together... something so you can understand the very important placement of your entry foot. Place the vertex (point) at each foot and the last one towards you.

Now, start working uchi komi (fitting in). Make sure your entry foot lands at the top of the triangle. It needs to be far enough away, that when you're pulling the bands, you can imagine someone being pulled off balance.

Now, do the same with strong right and strong left stances. This is where the "strong" foot is out front. You'll immediately notice when you place the triangle as instructed above, you'll immediately notice the "top" where you place your entry foot won't be in front of you. So, you'll have to take a 45 degree "step in" just to enter the top of the triangle. Then pull the bands in THAT direction (the direction the top of the triangle points in).

Don't just pull bands from a wall. Foot placement with your pull IS the key. Top of the triangle on MOST throws.

Youtube has tons of good tutorials on classical judo throws and some relevant competitive throwing.

Just to validate the above, I'm a brown belt at Cahill's Judo and train at Ralph Gracies in San Francisco. This is what I do, except I no longer use a physical triangle because you kinda just "know" after entering throws so many times. You begin to "feel" where the top of the triangle will be.
 
Sorry for going offtopic/hijacking the thread but any good bjj drills that i can do outdoors?
 
Well, you just about said it.

If they're solo drills, bands work great. Here's a twist that I can up with:

Get a pair of shoes and place them on the ground maybe 6 inches in front of where the band is anchored. There are three different ways to place them. For this, I'll just assume you play right handed (right hand on lapel/left hand on sleeve) traditional grip.

Now, place the shoes in neutral position (like you're standing at ease in the military), shoulder width apart. Now, create an equilateral triangle (all sides/angles equal) with something--a white belt, cardboard, tape three rulers together... something so you can understand the very important placement of your entry foot. Place the vertex (point) at each foot and the last one towards you.

Now, start working uchi komi (fitting in). Make sure your entry foot lands at the top of the triangle. It needs to be far enough away, that when you're pulling the bands, you can imagine someone being pulled off balance.

Now, do the same with strong right and strong left stances. This is where the "strong" foot is out front. You'll immediately notice when you place the triangle as instructed above, you'll immediately notice the "top" where you place your entry foot won't be in front of you. So, you'll have to take a 45 degree "step in" just to enter the top of the triangle. Then pull the bands in THAT direction (the direction the top of the triangle points in).

Don't just pull bands from a wall. Foot placement with your pull IS the key. Top of the triangle on MOST throws.

Youtube has tons of good tutorials on classical judo throws and some relevant competitive throwing.

Just to validate the above, I'm a brown belt at Cahill's Judo and train at Ralph Gracies in San Francisco. This is what I do, except I no longer use a physical triangle because you kinda just "know" after entering throws so many times. You begin to "feel" where the top of the triangle will be.

This is a really good description.
 
Well, you just about said it.

If they're solo drills, bands work great. Here's a twist that I can up with:

Get a pair of shoes and place them on the ground maybe 6 inches in front of where the band is anchored. There are three different ways to place them. For this, I'll just assume you play right handed (right hand on lapel/left hand on sleeve) traditional grip.

Now, place the shoes in neutral position (like you're standing at ease in the military), shoulder width apart. Now, create an equilateral triangle (all sides/angles equal) with something--a white belt, cardboard, tape three rulers together... something so you can understand the very important placement of your entry foot. Place the vertex (point) at each foot and the last one towards you.

Now, start working uchi komi (fitting in). Make sure your entry foot lands at the top of the triangle. It needs to be far enough away, that when you're pulling the bands, you can imagine someone being pulled off balance.

Now, do the same with strong right and strong left stances. This is where the "strong" foot is out front. You'll immediately notice when you place the triangle as instructed above, you'll immediately notice the "top" where you place your entry foot won't be in front of you. So, you'll have to take a 45 degree "step in" just to enter the top of the triangle. Then pull the bands in THAT direction (the direction the top of the triangle points in).

Don't just pull bands from a wall. Foot placement with your pull IS the key. Top of the triangle on MOST throws.

Youtube has tons of good tutorials on classical judo throws and some relevant competitive throwing.

Just to validate the above, I'm a brown belt at Cahill's Judo and train at Ralph Gracies in San Francisco. This is what I do, except I no longer use a physical triangle because you kinda just "know" after entering throws so many times. You begin to "feel" where the top of the triangle will be.

Awesome. 1000 thank yous. I started learning Judo and Wrestling simultaneously several years ago when I was training MMA, so I learned striking/wrestling/judo left foot forward to try to make it all make sense for MMA. I let them all fall to the wayside and started buttscooting for BJJ. Now that I've decided I don't like getting punched in the face, I'm not doing comp BJJ and I want to just learn and practice what I'm bad at rather than constantly comp game, I just do takedowns funny.
 
Awesome. 1000 thank yous. I started learning Judo and Wrestling simultaneously several years ago when I was training MMA, so I learned striking/wrestling/judo left foot forward to try to make it all make sense for MMA. I let them all fall to the wayside and started buttscooting for BJJ. Now that I've decided I don't like getting punched in the face, I'm not doing comp BJJ and I want to just learn and practice what I'm bad at rather than constantly comp game, I just do takedowns funny.

Can't Billy help you with throws, clinch too?
Back in the day he could suplex or salto anyone.
 
Thank you! Balto/Rod1/Judofolks, when doing tree/pole drills do you want the "lapels" more over your shoulder or around your upper bicep area?

Sorry, I ask a ton of questions.

I never really used bands much so I'm not good with those details. Mostly we would just do the uchikomi with a partner.

The pulling motion with the hands is kind of tough to describe in words. There are some phrases like "look at your watch" to help conceptualize, but really you just kind of need to feel it with a partner.

It changes a bit depending on what grip you like to throw from and which throw you are doing as well. Like I usually do uchi mata with the hand high in the collar but seoi nage with the hand low on the lapel, so the hand motion is a bit different.
 
Sorry, you're an authority around here, so you're not really allowed to ask for advice. It muddles up the hierarchy.
Fear not, my ego is big enough to make me comfortable giving advice to a world champion.

Hey all my judo enthusiasts, I'm looking for some solo Judo drills (I see a lot of high level players working foot movement/with bands) to add to the end of my morning workout, when I'm usually by myself. I'm godawful at Judo and a disgrace to even a whitebelt, so any videos or extra effort with explanation would be greatly appreciated. If you have any tips on progression (i.e. "once you get this drill, start adding this,") or frequency/number each time, also would love. As a final request, do you do them to both sides or just your strong side? I've heard conflicting info.

Thank y'all.
It would be useful to know what techniques you generally use and would like to practice.

That said caveat emptor - doing unsupervised solo drills usually makes bad habits permanent rather than perfecting good habits.

Before starting on specific technique shadow uchikomi its important to build fundamental movement skills.

You need to get observation of the triangle and correct foot placement down.

To practice observing the triangle use the lines of the mat to help you, put two flip flops or socks or folded belts down on two perpendicualr lines to form a triangle. The flip flops substitute feet, it should look something like this:

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Use the convergence of the two mat lines as the peak of the triangle. This is a guide point for where you first step should be place. Never step beyond the point and try not to step in front of it.

If your mat is one of those vinyl tarpaulin jobs then you can use chalk to draw the lines and it comes off with a bit of water.

Practice your entry footwork always ensuring that your initial step is on the point of the triangle.

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Video example with a partner



Next ensure correct foot placement.

The first step should be placed normally.

The second step, which is your pivoting foot should be made with the ball of the foot and should be place firmly into the mat. Firm enough to make a noise, but obviously not enough that you hurt your foot.

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Ensure your pivot foot placement feels natural and comfortable, don't swing back too far so that you feel of balance. This will translate into screwing up your throw when a partner is added in.

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Then square out your feet so that you end up in position for a forward technique

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Ignore the red box, the image was designed for something else.

Once you have this fundamental stepping pattern down you can then practice pretty much any forward throw of your choosing.

I strongly recommend leaving resistance bands or weights alone until you have got the footwork done and spent some time practising turn ins for techniques.

Resistance bands will make any technical flaws much worse. So concentrate on just solo drilling until you feel really comfortable with it and then add in resistance.

Here's a good example of the kind of solo shadow drills you can do before adding in resistance. The first minute is the main bit that's of use



If you have specific techniques you want to train then obviously there are specific drills and tips that may help.
 
Thank you! Balto/Rod1/Judofolks, when doing tree/pole drills do you want the "lapels" more over your shoulder or around your upper bicep area?

Sorry, I ask a ton of questions.

It's all relevant to where you ACTUALLY get your grip when you're fighting. Against good players, once you get a grip, you need to have a combination of throws you can use with THAT grip.

Example: mid-chest lapel grip with left hand, and elbow/wrist grip with right hand. You can do morote seoi nage (shoulder throw where left elbow rotates into opponents left armpit) or you can take a BIG circular step back with your right foot, release left lapel grip and make a fist, point it to 12 o'clock and rotate it into your opponents bicep/elbow pit for a more "modern" tai otoshi.

Hi lapel grips are great for uchi mata, harai goshi and sume gaeshi.

I think what's important for you right now is synchronizing your body... make sure your torso is turning without leaving your arms behind on your first step.

My son (11 years old) KEEPS leaving his hands behind as he enters. I always tell him "he's leaving his family at the picnic".

If you get that right, the subtleties of grip placement and timing comes with a LIVE training partner.
 
Damn there is some good info in this thread.
 
Thank you! Balto/Rod1/Judofolks, when doing tree/pole drills do you want the "lapels" more over your shoulder or around your upper bicep area?

Sorry, I ask a ton of questions.

If I understand what you are saying, shoulders under the "lapels"/armpit would be more of a wrestling armspin throw and bicep under "lapel"/armpit would be a seio nage/wrestling shoulder throw.
 
When I'm learning a solo or riff on the guitar I start out doing it so ridiculously slow it's difficult to tell what it is. As I get more comfortable and consistent at a given speed I'll up the pace in small increments until I am eventually blazing holes in your face.

One of the biggest mistakes I see people making is sloppy footwork. Start doing a throw with bands, or a belt and while you are focusing on your hands, stop at the end of each "throw" to see how your feet are positioned relative to your imaginary person. Most peoples feet are way off , which means the rest of your body position is probably off.

Work on stepping in and putting your feet in the correct place. Go stupid slow at first. Do 50reps. Up the speed a bit. Do 50 reps. Keep uping it until you can consistenly get your feet and body in the right place.
 
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