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Socialism and the Millenials

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The recent reelection of socialist Kshama Sawant in Seattle and the widespread popularity of the Sanders campaign among millions and millions of voters alone proves the political discourse in the U.S. has finally moved past its decades long taboo against the very mention of the word "socialism." Millenials who represent an entire post-Cold War generation seem to be getting some of the credit for this. If so, what developments can we anticipate in the future with subsequent generations involved in U.S. politics?

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Our generation shits on the baby boomers as we at least acknowledge our sense of entitlement. And those assholes had cocaine while we only get legal weed.

The tides are turning and I do hope we do a better job of taking care of our older generations compared to how the baby boomers took "care" of theirs but limiting their social security increases, raising the age of retirement, and leaving the next generation with $20 trillion in the hole.

Tldr: stuff and things Coral
 
You can expect the fall of your entire country from grace.

Pax Romana
 
Communist subversion is a beautiful thing. It will lead to utopia.

Openly Marxist ideology is being taught in the school systems and everything.

It's time to give it another chance, and then finally everyone will be equal, with some being more equal than others.
 
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As long as it doesn't get to out of hand I don't mind. As of now a person making $50,000 a year is only paying $40 or $50 a year towards America's social safety net programs.

Capitalism without socialism leads to fascism. Socialism without capitalism leads to communism. Capitalism produces wealth. Socialism maintains wealth. The two systems are co-dependent.
 
You can expect the fall of your entire country from grace.

Pax Romana
It fell a long time ago when Keeping up With the Kardashians went on air.
 
The recent reelection of socialist Kshama Sawant in Seattle and the widespread popularity of the Sanders campaign among millions and millions of voters alone proves the political discourse in the U.S. has finally moved past its decades long taboo against the very mention of the word "socialism." Millenials who represent an entire post-Cold War generation seem to be getting some of the credit for this. If so, what developments can we anticipate in the future with subsequent generations involved in U.S. politics?

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Nudes?
 
Young folks are dumb and inexperienced, that explains why they tend to vote for socialists. As many of them grow up they tend to get life lessons convincing them to be less radical and they shift their views to a more conservative stance.

I don't think that socialists take control of America anytime soon.
 
Young folks are dumb and inexperienced, that explains why they tend to vote for socialists. As many of them grow up they tend to get life lessons convincing them to be less radical and they shift their views to a more conservative stance.

I don't think that socialists take control of America anytime soon.

Not me, I was once a free marketer. Went the other way.

I think the GFC is the explanation. Hard to worship at the alter of the free market, when it fails in front of the world.
 
Young folks are dumb and inexperienced, that explains why they tend to vote for socialists. As many of them grow up they tend to get life lessons convincing them to be less radical and they shift their views to a more conservative stance.

I don't think that socialists take control of America anytime soon.

yea, b/c 2008 was a life lesson in the thrills and chills of capitalism.

it must be nice to treat our economy as a political game to sit there and pretend like you have all the answers just b/c you managed to not die from whatever stupid shit you did when you were younger. but in an adult world (which i know doesn't exist), facts and justice matter. and it's why we are in so much trouble now, b/c everyone has become such a selfish, materialistic, money obsessed cunt of a culture that we are literally willing to let everything burn down around us just so we can cling to some awesomely fake fantasy that we can be super rich.

that's why bernie's message has appeal. it's the exact OPPOSITE of what i just described. if you don't get that, then you are just some trump sucking, right wing fueled propaganda cake and you just don't have the ears to listen to what's actually going on in the world.
 
Unfortunately, capitalism with free market/free trade just isn't popular right now. Bernie's democratic socialist ideas and Trump's talk on trade have a lot of people wanting a change.
 
that's why bernie's message has appeal. it's the exact OPPOSITE of what i just described. if you don't get that, then you are just some trump sucking, right wing fueled propaganda cake and you just don't have the ears to listen to what's actually going on in the world.

So you don't mind to be taxed more so your precious govt can waste more money on whatever shit they usually waste them, such as healthcare.gov website that cost millions but was able to serve just a couple of ppl.

The problem with taxes is you can always pay more. But you can't pay less (without violating laws). You want to pay more, personally? Go ahead and pay 100% of your earnings. Or spend them for charity. That would be fair.

But no, you want everybody else to pay more taxes as well. And spend them for whatever govt projects they are usually wasted on.

I'm not imposing my will on you -- you can always pay more. But you are trying to impose your will on me and cause me to pay more and make illegal to pay less. Get the difference?
 
It's more of an Oligarchy that is rigging the game and controlling governments right now. Not really free market.

Ideally the direction would go in empowering small businesses and to try to decentralize the power that these big monopoly players have.

They will use socialism as a means to expand their control via proxy (government) so that the populations become more and more 'managed'. Thus, they promote it for that reason, to implement their own 'special version' of it.

In some ways, this is the logical conclusion of the capitalist process. Free market systems turn croney and Oligarchical and they then use this power to 'pull up the ladder' and establish a Big Brother control system to lock in their power and wealth.
 
Young people are ignorant hipsters. It's no surprise they've turned to socialism.

I doubt sociacucks will start infiltrating our highest offices other than the odd local politician or Congressman here and there, but if they ever start worming their filthy red selves into prominent positions I'll definitely be out of here. Not to Canada because I'm sure they'll be even redder than us at that point.
 
Honestly we wouldn't have this socialist movement if college wasn't so expensive. I have said it before, we don't need to make college free. What we need is to set price controls on public colleges so students can pay for it without struggling. Free trade agreements are making a lot of jobs disappear and most of the jobs that are staying require college. Do you not feel bad about the youth being forced into debt slavery just to be able to land a job that won't disappear to automation in the future???
 
Its like this right.

Millennials have been screwed in every way from the middle class getting gutted to the college scam and they are sick to death of being told just let run banker mania run wild on you and cut taxes for the rich and everything will be ok

If you want to see what the future is going to look like look at bernies platform. Sanders might not get it this time but if college and healthcare keep becoming more and more out of reach and decent job prospects continue to shrink due to robots and outsourcing those ideas are going to become more and more appealing.
 
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So you don't mind to be taxed more so your precious govt can waste more money on whatever shit they usually waste them, such as healthcare.gov website that cost millions but was able to serve just a couple of ppl.

The problem with taxes is you can always pay more. But you can't pay less (without violating laws). You want to pay more, personally? Go ahead and pay 100% of your earnings. Or spend them for charity. That would be fair.

But no, you want everybody else to pay more taxes as well. And spend them for whatever govt projects they are usually wasted on.

I'm not imposing my will on you -- you can always pay more. But you are trying to impose your will on me and cause me to pay more and make illegal to pay less. Get the difference?

i've truthfully never understood this argument. they are taxes, we all benefit from the infrastructure the government provides. roads, energy infrastructure, emergency services, just about everything that makes the country function.

you could privatize all that i guess, and that's such a level of imbecile corruption you are inviting that i guess if you are dumb enough to think such a thing would be superior, then you'd deserve the treatment you would get under it.

i understand the issue of unfair taxation. i really do. b/c the problem is middle class and upper middle class people resist taxation reform b/c they are the ones that get hit. the ultra rich (the ones that are the real problem) and mega conglomerates don't pay for dick. and they threaten to leave the country and all sorts of shady shit the second the government tries to show any teeth.

so the burden goes to people that aren't rich enough to fight back. that's all 2008 was - all the taxpayer bailout money was a burden left on people that individually aren't influential enough b/c they aren't worth a billion dollars. but to sit there and argue these 9th grade philosophical points on taxation is just allowing you to live in a dream world where you can talk, and the other guy can talk, and nothing happens.

meanwhile, rich people keep getting richer, and we all keep getting fucked. that little wealth gap statistic isn't a liberal lie or some piece of propaganda - it's a fact. we are becoming what capitalism naturally trends toward - oligarchy. and oligarchy is defined as (b/c i know you don't know what this word means) a small group of people controlling everything. that's a major role of government since nearly our inception is to prevent such a thing. it's why we have anti-trust laws on the books and why they have the power to tax.

if you don't get that, and you don't see the problem with unfettered capitalism that goes unregulated and you just pray at night for trickle down economics to solve everything, then i suggest you get a head start on picking out the best spot under the bridge b/c that's where we'll be headed.

it's an ironic thing b/c "free market capitalists" always point towards how great communism sounds on paper, and how awful it is in practice. but capitalism suffers a similar application - we just so happen to have had great men keep this country going for so long. and wouldn't it be a wonderful world where we all pay like 5% of our income in taxes and we can all have yachts and bang supermodels and live a life of pure fantasy.

but it's time to grow the fuck up and demand the adults in charge be adults. time to encourage actual sacrifice, and it's time to crack down on actual injustice. any other kind of discussion is made for people too fucking scared and pissing themselves to actually demand hard choices be made.
 
Self entitlement, everyone is special and a winner there are no losers..
 
Its like this right.

Millennials have been screwed in every way from the middle class getting gutted to the college scam and they are sick to death of being told just let run banker mania run wild on you and cut taxes for the rich and everything will be ok

If you want to see what the future is going to look like look at bernies platform. Sanders might not get it this time but if college and healthcare keep becoming more and more out of reach and decent job prospects continue to shrink due to robots and outsourcing and those ideas are going to become more and more appealing.

I can understand the frustration and agree with the problems there. I think it is working like a protection racket though. The problems are being created by the same people offering the cure. Bankers love socialism (they financed the Bolshevik revolution) as a way of expanding system management abilities.

It's a very difficult situation though, because accepting the protection does start to look better and better the worse things get.
 
if they ever start worming their filthy red selves into prominent positions I'll definitely be out of here. Not to Canada because I'm sure they'll be even redder than us at that point.

Where exactly. Cause there's no new frontier these days and all other first world countries are bad and you can expect them to get even worse.
 
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