Futbol Soccer...?

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

"OnLy PuNy LiTtLe GuYs PlAy SoCcEr CuZ ThAtS wHaT SpOrTsCeNtEr ToLd Me"

 

[Sir Elzio Dennick]

Trust me you really don't want me posting pictures of big muscular NFLers who make all soccer ites look like midgets.

6-1 280 pounds

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6-3 250 pounds

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[Sir Elzio Dennick]

6-1 255

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[Sir Elzio Dennick]

6-5 240 runs a 4.3

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[Hellowhosthat]

Found this....

The five fastest soccer players ever, if talking 100m

5.....David Odonkor 10.60
4.....Claudio Canigga.....10.50
3.....Mavell Wynne.....10.39
2.....Adam Gemili.....10.23
1....Darren Campbell.....10.04

As we can see when the fifth fastest time is a SLOW 10.60.....ouch~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Was Campbell an actual soccer player? Or wanted to be?

These are just guys who recorded track times. If you watch Odonkor play and watch Mbappe play you can't tell me Odonkor is faster.

Campbell and Gemili we only have times because they failed to make the grade at soccer so switched to track. If someone like Kyle Walker had failed to make the grade and switched to track who knows?

 

[Sir Elzio Dennick]

These are just guys who recorded track times. If you watch Odonkor play and watch Mbappe play you can't tell me Odonkor is faster.

Campbell and Gemili we only have times because they failed to make the grade at soccer so switched to track. If someone like Kyle Walker had failed to make the grade and switched to track who knows?

Bottom line is real simple......

The NFL has had TONS of world class sprinters in the league, that's not soocer or rugby.

Give me a successful soccer player who was a star trackster like we see in tHe NFL.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Trust me you really don't want me posting pictures of big muscular NFLers who make all soccer ites look like midgets.

Look at you goalpost shifting and completely missing the point again.

You: "soccer players are all puny and weak and tiny"

I show pics of multiple examples of guys who clearly arent.

You: "heres a 300lb NFL player"

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Bottom line is real simple......

The NFL has had TONS of world class sprinters in the league, that's not soocer or rugby.

Give me a successful soccer player who was a star trackster like we see in tHe NFL.

Dude we've been over this loads of times. Soccer players do not run track in college like US sports players do. The academy system in soccer is completely different so we have no way of knowing times.

 

[Sir Elzio Dennick]

Look at you goalpost shifting and completely missing the point again.

You: "soccer players are all puny and weak and tiny"

I show pics of multiple examples of guys who clearly arent.

You: "heres a 300lb NFL player"

Who was 300 pounds, try.....none~

Didn't you read where the avg soccer player was 165 pounds, well?

There is nobody in soccer like a Calvin Johnson, 6-5 240 with 4.3 speed.

Dude, why fight it,, OBVIOUSLY the NFL has the bigger, stronger, faster athletes, hell.......how obvious can it get" Just accept how it is, ok guy? I get it where you live.......................

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Dude we've been over this loads of times. Soccer players do not run track in college like US sports players do. The academy system in soccer is completely different so we have no way of knowing times.

He is incapable of absorbing information. Whatever you tell him or show him hes just going to repeat the same loop of sprint times and some variation of "bigger, stronger, faster athletes" etc etc.

 

[Sir Elzio Dennick]

Dude we've been over this loads of times. Soccer players do not run track in college like US sports players do. The academy system in soccer is completely different so we have no way of knowing times.

What we do know is the NFL has been full of world class sprinters over the years while soccer hasn't been......right?

Now you can play,.......yes but......I go with what really went on, there are no world class sprinters in soccer, TONS have played NFL football.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Dude, why fight it,, OBVIOUSLY the NFL has the bigger, stronger, faster athletes

Except this isnt even what you were saying.

You recently wrote this...

Soccer is for little athletes, who really can't do anything but soccer.

Along with...

You do know soccer players are smaller, weaker and far slower than NFLers, right?

Ie the usual disingenuous BS where you pretend every NFL player in every position somehow simultaneously has wide receiver speed AND lineman size/strength.

 

[Sir Elzio Dennick]

He is incapable of absorbing information. Whatever you tell him or show him hes just going to repeat the same loop of sprint times and some variation of "bigger, stronger, faster athletes" etc etc.

What information? The average soccer player is a 165, the average NFLer 244, there are no Olympic spriters in soccer, been around 25 in the NFL. So what info changes that?

 

[Sir Elzio Dennick]

Except this isnt even what you were saying.

You recently wrote this...



Along with...


Ie the usual disingenuous BS where you pretend every NFL player in every position somehow simultaneously has wide receiver speed AND lineman size/strength.

Wrong.

Defensive and offensive linemen are far stronger than any soccer player. Just not as fast.

WR/RB/Cornerbacks are faster than soccer players.

Pretty simple.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

What information? The average soccer player is a 165, the average NFLer 244, there are no Olympic spriters in soccer, been around 25 in the NFL. So what info changes that?

I dispute the average, for one. I dont think 165lbs sounds right at all based on the extensive amount of soccer ive watched. Secondly...its an AVERAGE. You are talking about soccer players like they are child sized weaklings when in reality they are just in shape normal sized dudes. They dont need to be huge because it has no value in their sport.

You also know that coming up with an "average" for the NFL is totally pointless because it doesnt accurately represent things when that sport has more variation by position than any other, all doing different tasks. From dudes like Vince Wilfork to dudes like Darren Sproles. This is why your constant "bigger, stronger, faster" stuff is complete bullshit, it depends on the position.

And you've been told repeatedly why there arent olympic sprinters in soccer, and why using it as some kind of metric is stupid.

 

[Sir Elzio Dennick]

Who out there actually believes there are legit soccer players who could run with this guy......

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Wrong.

Defensive and offensive linemen are far stronger than any soccer player. Just not as fast.

WR/RB/Cornerbacks are faster than soccer players.

Pretty simple.

So they're completely different positions who are 100+lbs apart from each other and rarely interact with each other. Not some standard "NFL'er".

Therefore your "bigger stronger faster" shit is pretty meaningless. Lineman are slow and immobile compared to soccer players, and WR/RB/CBs are often soccer player sized

 

[Sir Elzio Dennick]

I dispute the average, for one. I dont think 165lbs sounds right at all based on the extensive amount of soccer ive watched. Secondly...its an AVERAGE. You are talking about soccer players like they are child sized weaklings when in reality they are just in shape normal sized dudes. They dont need to be huge because it has no value in their sport.

You also know that coming up with an "average" for the NFL is totally pointless because it doesnt accurately represent things when that sport has more variation by position than any other, all doing different tasks. From dudes like Vince Wilfork to dudes like Darren Sproles. This is why your constant "bigger, stronger, faster" stuff is complete bullshit, it depends on the position.

And you've been told repeatedly why there arent olympic sprinters in soccer, and why using it as some kind of metric is stupid.

Stupid is not accepting the fact soccer is played by smaller, weaker and slower athletes. The big guys in football way bigger and stronger than any soccerite, the fast guys in football FAR faster than any soccerites.

Dude, what do you have against real life?

Ok give soccer an average of 185 pounds that is still a midget vs the NFL.

Why keep fighting this, oh yeah.....where you live they play soccer.

 

[Sir Elzio Dennick]

Herschel Walker 6-1 225 pounds ran a 10.23 for 100m.

Give me the soccerite who compares.

Bob Hayes 5-11 190 pounds ran a10.06 for 100m

What soccerite compares to him?

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

The big guys in football way bigger and stronger than any soccerite

And? there is no equivalent position in soccer or most other sports. You know, many people would look at a lot of those linemen, who in many cases are fat, and be like "pshhh what a joke sport it must be that guys like that can play it"

the fast guys in football FAR faster than any soccerites.

The fastest guys in the fast positions? sure. EVERY WR or CB faster than EVERY soccer player? no.

Ok give soccer an average of 185 pounds that is still a midget vs the NFL.

No it isnt, its a normal size for WRs, RBs, CBs, safetys and kickers.