Futbol Soccer...?

[Sir Elzio Dennick]

Bob Hayes ran 11 World Records from the 60 to the 200m, to think there is some soccer player on his level, are you kidding me? Hayes the Olympic gold medalist,

Jimmy Hines ran a 60, 100 yard, 100m World Records, he won the Olympic 100m gold medal, to tink a soccer.......hahahaha~~~~~~~~~

Give me one soccer player who ever did anything in the speed world, yep.....aren't any.

 

[fica]

Dude, you aren't getting this at all.

So those times were taken over what distance?

Works like this......

GUN goes off....

Reaction to the gun, getting out of the blocks....accelerate to your topend which most hit around 50ish meters, now here is what separates things. At around 50ish sprinters hit that top end/max velocity......they will get no faster, so now its "speed endurance" that ability to sustain/maintai your top end. Those who decellerate the least wins the races.

What soccer/rugbyite can run 100 like a legit sprinter can, yep........nobody~ Sprinters must work on that "speed endurance" that is why they run all those 300's. NOBODY.....can just run a 100m without the training it takes. Sure you can run 60ish without falling apart.

fica you have no idea how any of this works why not just bow out, you aren't going to figure it out. To be talking how soccer players can run with Olympic sprinters is ridiculous and you don't even know that.

I don't talk baseball or basketball, yep, don't know the game.

Track speed is undisputed top
2 is soccer
3 is rugby speed
4 might be nfl speed and please I do notcare about participation trophy nfl players seems to love to get everytime they get embarrassed in track heat and their nuthuggers would tell us they raced in track event so they are bonified "sprinters" lol

 

[Sir Elzio Dennick]

Track speed is undisputed top
2 is soccer
3 is rugby speed
4 might be nfl speed and please I do notcare about participation trophy nfl players seems to love to get everytime they get embarrassed in track heat and their nuthuggers would tell us they raced in track even so they are bonified "sprinters" lol

Why do you totally ignore reality?

Dude............OLYMPIC MEDALISTS/WORLD RECORD HOLDERS......play NFL football, why do you keep ignoring that fact?

There are no soccer players on a par with all the sub 10.20 sprinters who played NFL football.

DK Metcalf.....hahahaaha~~~~ 10,36 is nothing by NFL standards.

We have had Olympic 100m champs, 200m champs. Soccer.....nothing.

NFL 4x1 relay

Trinton Holliday....Jimmy Hines.....Jeff Demps....Bob Hayes two Olympic champs, two sub 10.02

Give me that soccer 4x1 that rugby 4x1, yep..........no clue at all.

 

[fica]

Why do you totally ignore reality?

Dude............OLYMPIC MEDALISTS/WORLD RECORD HOLDERS......play NFL football, why do you keep ignoring that fact?

There are no soccer players on a par with all the sub 10.20 sprinters who played NFL football.

DK Metcalf.....hahahaaha~~~~ 10,36 is nothing by NFL standards.

We have had Olympic 100m champs, 200m champs. Soccer.....nothing.

NFL 4x1 relay

Trinton Holliday....Jimmy Hines.....Jeff Demps....Bob Hayes two Olympic champs, two sub 10.02

Give me that soccer 4x1 that rugby 4x1, yep..........no clue at all.

hey data shows top 5 soccer players by speed are faster then current top fastest nfl player. so they run track in high school so they are elite sprinters not really mean shit because curent elite sprinters hve nothing to do with nfl

 

[Sir Elzio Dennick]

hey data shows top 5 soccer players by speed are faster then current top fastest nfl player. so they run track in high school so they are elite sprinters mean shit because curent wlite sprinters hve nothing to do with nfl

So you really think there are soccer players faster than Tyreek Hill, D'Von Arcane, Rayeem Mostert, Xavier Worthy, HAHAHAHAHA~~~~~

My God guy nobody should be this damn dense, you don 't get this at all....NONE~~~~

fica......this isn't a mph for a short distance thing, and you have to be told that, wow~~~~

When I talk speed it;s the 100yd/100m, and the time. Nobody cares about......MPH for a few yards, can't believe you guy..

This is the current fastest NFLer , there is no soccer player remotely close to this.......




See how it goes, NFLers actually ran track, they were legit sprinters, give me a legit sprinter soccerite, ya can't do it becase they don't exist.. Hill has a 10.19PR, theRE have been at least 20 NFLers with a faster PR.

Soccer is full of......SLOW

 

[fica]

So you really think there are soccer players faster than Tyreek Hill, D'Von Arcane, Rayeem Mostert, Xavier Worthy, HAHAHAHAHA~~~~~

My God guy nobody should be this damn dense, you don 't get this at all....NONE~~~~

fica......this isn't a mph for a short distance thing, and you have to be told that, wow~~~~

When I talk speed it;s the 100yd/100m, and the time. Nobody cares about......MPH for a few yards, can't believe you guy..

This is the current fastest NFLer , there is no soccer player remotely close to this.......




See how it goes, NFLers actually ran track, they were legit sprinters, give me a legit sprinter soccerite, ya can't do it becase they don't exist.. Hill has a 10.19PR, they have been at least 20 NFLers with a faster PR.

so what you saying car that gets to 38kmh faster then other car and is able to get to that speed is not better then a car who could not get to 38kmh lol

 

[Sir Elzio Dennick]

so what you saying car that gets to 38kmh faster then other car and is able to get to that speed is not better then a car who could not get to 38kmh lol

What I;m saying is this.....

The NFL is choked full of former WORLD CLASS sprinters, WORLD RECORD holders, sub 10.20 sub 9.5 sprintes while rugby has absolutely notHing and nobody.

There has never been a soccer player do anything at all when it comes to speed. No Olympians No World Record holders, no world rankers, there are no fast soccer players.

Dude.....MPH really? Ah.....for how far.....well? MPH.....HAHAHAHAHA~~~~~~~~~~

You don't get any of this rookie, why keep talking about something you don't understand at all?

Start a thread......Are soccer players faster than NFLers ? Watch how wrong you are, nobody but you buys that foolishness.

 

[fica]

What I;m saying is this.....

The NFL is choked full of former WORLD CLASS sprinters, WORLD RECORD holders, sub 10.20 sub 9.5 sprintes while rugby has absolutely notHing and nobody.

There has never been a soccer player do anything at all when it comes to speed. No Olympians No World Record holders, no world rankers, there are no fast soccer players.

Dude.....MPH really? Ah.....for how far.....well? MPH.....HAHAHAHAHA~~~~~~~~~~

You don't get any of this rookie, why keep talking about something you don't understand at all?

Start a thread......Are soccer players faster than NFLers ? Watch how wrong you are, nobody but you buys that foolishness.

Lol are soccer players faster then nfl players lol there is a prof in this tread that shows that they are they accelarate faster then nfl player have higher TOP speed and higher endourance

 

[Sir Elzio Dennick]

Lol are soccer players faster then nfl players lol there is a prof in this tread that shows that they are they accelarate faster then nfl player have higher TOP speed and higher endourance

So you really think soccer players are faster than.......

Trindon Holliday 10.00
Jacoby Ford 10.01
Jeff Demps 10.01 Olympic 4x1
Jim Hines 9.95 Olympic GOLD
Bob Hayes 10.06 Olympic GOLD
Ron Brown 10,06 Olympic final
Alvis Whitted 10.07
Darrell Green 10.08
Sam Graddy 10.09 Olympic silver

Really guy?

 

[fica]

So you really think soccer players are faster than.......

Trindon Holliday 10.00
Jacoby Ford 10.01
Jeff Demps 10.01 Olympic 4x1
Jim Hines 9.95 Olympic GOLD
Bob Hayes 10.06 Olympic GOLD
Ron Brown 10,06 Olympic final
Alvis Whitted 10.07
Darrell Green 10.08
Sam Graddy 10.09 Olympic silver

Really guy?

wow so you want to tell me guys in 80-90 s adnd so on are faster then todays curent crop of so called fast track and field verified nfl sprinters. soccer and nfl are different soccer players in short distance reach 38kmh or 37.83 kmh(second guy on list) no waiting for set go or anything like that that shows explosivness of them while moving ronaldo has highest vertical of all athletes ar 40 .7 inches and again that was in real game not some combine.so soccer players are faster more mobile agile have quiker acceleration then nfl play can jump higher run and sustain running faster and longer with out hitting peak and down hill from there

 

[Sir Elzio Dennick]

Reality....

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Not sure why the argument over the value of soccer and its athletes seems so tied to errr...sprinting?

Most sports involve a lot more than running fast in a straight line. Even with American football the reality is speed alone doesnt make a good WR for example. Look at that kid last year who broke the 40 combine record, he hasnt exactly set the world on fire in the NFL so far.

Is running fast more impressive than being an elite soccer player? would elite soccer players trade their position to be an elite sprinter? I would say its a clear no to both.

 

[Sir Elzio Dennick]

Not sure why the argument over the value of soccer and its athletes seems so tied to errr...sprinting?

Most sports involve a lot more than running fast in a straight line. Even with American football the reality is speed alone doesnt make a good WR for example. Look at that kid last year who broke the 40 combine record, he hasnt exactly set the world on fire in the NFL so far.

Is running fast more impressive than being an elite soccer player? would elite soccer players trade their position to be an elite sprinter? I would say its a clear no to both.

Just something to kick around, I do find it funny how anyone could debate little soccer guys with no sprinting in their past being on par with world class sprinters, funny watching......look where I live,.......which is all that ever is.

No big deal actually.

Never been a legit fast soccer player who made a career playing soccer.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Just something to kick around, I do find it funny how anyone could debate little soccer guys with no sprinting in their past being on par with world class sprinters, funny watching......look where I live,.......which is all that ever is.

No big deal actually.

Never been a legit fast soccer player who made a career playing soccer.

Define "legit fast"?

I'm sure plenty of soccer guys had the raw speed potential to be great sprinters if they had taken that route. But the interest, infrastructure and pipelines arent there in most countries to anywhere near the same level that it is for soccer. Most fast people are going to play the sport they like and want to succeed in, which in most cultures probably wont be sprinting.

You seem to have an exaggerated perception of how small soccer players are too. They're the same size as sprinters and wide receivers. The most recent Ballon D'or winner, Rodri, is 6'3.

 

[Sir Elzio Dennick]

Define "legit fast"?

I'm sure plenty of soccer guys had the raw speed potential to be great sprinters if they had taken that route. But the interest, infrastructure and pipelines arent there in most countries to anywhere near the same level that it is for soccer. Most fast people are going to play the sport they like and want to succeed in, which in most cultures probably wont be sprinting.

You seem to have an exaggerated perception of how small soccer players are too. They're the same size as sprinters and wide receivers. The most recent Ballon D'or winner, Rodri, is 6'3.

Legit fast......sub 9.5 for 100 yards, sub 10.30 for 100m, sub 20.60 for 200m.

The NFL is choked full of that level of speed. TONS of sub 9.5. 10.30, 20.60 players.

When ayone talks about soccer or rugby it 's .........they could have if..... the NFLers are x Olympians, x sprint stars, none of that.....shoulda coulda...stuff.

Football has had more .....legit fast....guys than soccer, rugby, baseball, basketball.....COMBINED.

Tyreek Hil is the current NFL Fastest Player, while in high school he ran 10.19/20.14. There are no soccer cats like that and never has been.

I have no problems with......soccer guys have better cardio and blazing speed isn't really their game.......ok cool. Just don't try and sell how they can run with NFLers, that's BS.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Legit fast......sub 9.5 for 100 yards, sub 10.30 for 100m, sub 20.60 for 200m.

The NFL is choked full of that level of speed. TONS of sub 9.5. 10.30, 20.60 players.

When ayone talks about soccer or rugby it 's .........they could have if..... the NFLers are x Olympians, x sprint stars, none of that.....shoulda coulda...stuff.

Football has had more .....legit fast....guys than soccer, rugby, baseball, basketball.....COMBINED.

Because its completely reasonable to assume there are going to be tons of fast people outside of sprinting and American football, which when it comes down to it are pretty niche on a global level.

The reason the NFL has lots of ex-sprinters is 1) it has positions where raw speed translates better than to other sports and 2) its talent is drawn from the US college system, where multi sport athletes are the norm because those colleges have so much money and resources to facilitate it compared to most nations.

I dont know why you're so incapable of accepting that the majority of would be sprinters will never actually pursue sprinting (or American football). A naturally very fast kid somewhere in Africa is almost certainly going to be playing soccer if hes playing any sport. That also applies to Europe, South America, and to a lesser extent parts of Asia and the Caribbean.

 

[Sir Elzio Dennick]

Because its completely reasonable to assume there are going to be tons of fast people outside of sprinting and American football, which when it comes down to it are pretty niche on a global level.

The reason the NFL has lots of ex-sprinters is 1) it has positions where raw speed translates better than to other sports and 2) its talent is drawn from the US college system, where multi sport athletes are the norm because those colleges have so much money and resources to facilitate it compared to most nations.

I dont know why you're so incapable of accepting that the majority of would be sprinters will never actually pursue sprinting (or American football). A naturally very fast kid somewhere in Africa is almost certainly going to be playing soccer if hes playing any sport. That also applies to Europe, South America, and to a lesser extent parts of Asia and the Caribbean.

Well aware of all that, I do keep up with world wide sprinting, know all about the African situation. A lot of them end up over here at our schools, Hell the fastest sprinter ever at Stanford, Azusa Pacific, Lubbock, Missouri, BYU, were Africans.

But........when it comes to world class sprinting the USA and Jamaica rule. Between the two they have won more Olympic medals than the rest of the world......COMBINED.

Olympic gold medalist, tons of world record holders, tons of world rankers, that is NFL speed, and we see none of that kind of thing in soccer or any other ball sport.

This well if......means nothing.

lane

1,Frankie Fredericks Namibia/BYU
2.Davidson Ezinwa Nigeria/Azusa
3.Chidi Imoh Nigeria/Missouri
4.George Daneils Ghana/Colorado***********
5.Divine Odurudo Nigeria/Texas Tech.....best sprinter
6.Daneil Effiong Nigeria....Lubbock
7.Leonard Myles Mills Ghana/BYU
8.Ododi Nigeria/Stanford

But .....no African has ever won an Olympic gold.

********** fomer decathlon champ Bill Toomey was part of a goodwill tour in Ghana, while there he came across a speedy little kid named George Daneils, beng a Colorado alum..............Daneils ends up at Colorado.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

that is NFL speed, and we see none of that kind of thing in soccer or any other ball sport.

You're misrepresenting things. Its not "NFL speed", its the speed of the absolute fastest guys in the fastest positions. Thats the extreme end, not the norm. QBs arent fast, linemen arent fast, kickers arent fast, even linebackers and most RBs arent super fast.

Anyway like I said, I dont see why so much of the argument regarding soccer is hinging on sprinting, something very few soccer players have ever even tried to do. Soccer is a skill sport mainly.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

So you really think there are soccer players faster than Tyreek Hill, D'Von Arcane, Rayeem Mostert, Xavier Worthy, HAHAHAHAHA~~~~~

My God guy nobody should be this damn dense, you don 't get this at all....NONE~~~~

fica......this isn't a mph for a short distance thing, and you have to be told that, wow~~~~

When I talk speed it;s the 100yd/100m, and the time. Nobody cares about......MPH for a few yards, can't believe you guy..

This is the current fastest NFLer , there is no soccer player remotely close to this.......




See how it goes, NFLers actually ran track, they were legit sprinters, give me a legit sprinter soccerite, ya can't do it becase they don't exist.. Hill has a 10.19PR, theRE have been at least 20 NFLers with a faster PR.

Soccer is full of......SLOW

But they're not training for that lol. An NFL receiver's entire purpose is to be fast over a short distance and then rest. Soccer players have to be able to stop and start sprints all game.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Well aware of all that, I do keep up with world wide sprinting, know all about the African situation. A lot of them end up over here at our schools, Hell the fastest sprinter ever at Stanford, Azusa Pacific, Lubbock, Missouri, BYU, were Africans.

But........when it comes to world class sprinting the USA and Jamaica rule. Between the two they have won more Olympic medals than the rest of the world......COMBINED.

Olympic gold medalist, tons of world record holders, tons of world rankers, that is NFL speed, and we see none of that kind of thing in soccer or any other ball sport.

This well if......means nothing.

lane

1,Frankie Fredericks Namibia/BYU
2.Davidson Ezinwa Nigeria/Azusa
3.Chidi Imoh Nigeria/Missouri
4.George Daneils Ghana/Colorado***********
5.Divine Odurudo Nigeria/Texas Tech.....best sprinter
6.Daneil Effiong Nigeria....Lubbock
7.Leonard Myles Mills Ghana/BYU
8.Ododi Nigeria/Stanford

But .....no African has ever won an Olympic gold.

********** fomer decathlon champ Bill Toomey was part of a goodwill tour in Ghana, while there he came across a speedy little kid named George Daneils, beng a Colorado alum..............Daneils ends up at Colorado.

If an African is really good at soccer I can guarantee you they aren't concentrating on their sprint times lol.