I guess you're right...It's just that Ken is now a shell of a shell of his former self and can find unique ways to lose a la Alistair Overeem..(Fujita fight, Franklin (yes I think he could get that leglock and wtf was he doing attempting that head kick having NEVER done that before), Sakuraba fight, Kimbo fight). Guess I'm envisioning a worst case scenario here.
It was funny though on Chael's podcast, Ken had said for the Kimbo fight he had to weigh at least 205. He was actually a little short of that, but apparently nothing was made of it. It's like "you must weigh X. Oh you didn't? Meh okay..."
What all those fighters have in common is physical strength ,if Shamrock hits Royce with even one of those Fujita bombs hes going down or out... Im not to sold on the Sakuraba fight that may be one Shamrock actually did throw since there were a few Pride fixed fights but we'll call it a loss with no proof ,i just find it bizarre Royce beats Sak but Ken falls with glancing shot? Kimbo has like a 19/20 inch neck ,if Shamrock gets the same choke in and this time squeezes until hes peeled off its over! Im not sure what actually happened in the Franklin fight just remember Shamrock had him on his back and remember the k.o loss. Its not improbable Royce can win but i really dont see a k.o win and i would have Shamrock 3 to 1 favorite . It should be higher but he hasnt won in so long it cant go much higher.
He's not actually that good at leg locks, relatively speaking. He went for them in an era when almost no one else did. That's pretty much it. Josh Barnett, Marcin Held, Shinya Aoki, and Palhares are all way better at the leg game.
No, Ken weighed 204 lbs when he fought Kimbo so he's not really cutting weight.
Good points there. Interestingly i didnt think too much of royce's win over saku at the time. Bizarre to think, as you said, that ken lost to the same saku just a year earlier , and embarrasingly So. So that at least makes it suspicious, OR Ken declined really fast after the first tito fight... Or perhaps the frye fight as Don Frye himself thinks. Back then i actually thought hé had a shot in the second tito fight. Too bad he never fought him at his peak. Hé would have smacked him around a la fujita (as many thought at the time) IMO. Anyway, hope he gets the W tonight.
Agreed howver no punch....a knee which I dint really take into account...I thought Shammy would be aggressive he basically was looking to lose again.....hang em up ken.
Yes you're right, have seen it in the meantime. It (as usual with ken) looked quite fishy, hammerpunches barely connnected? Anywhoo, just a sad sad fight really. I don't need those legends to remind me that they arent relevant anymore. Or that i myself have gotten old as well lol
You should watch it just to get the real story. It was definitely a nut shot that put Ken on the ground. The follow up GnP was pathetic and Ken was never out of it. He turtled from the knee to the nuts.
So true on the last part. I watched the fight in the meantime btw. It was a clear and blatant nutshot. I think Ken would have lost anyway, seeing as he couldn't even handle the weaker (at least that is the assumption but i'm not So sure anymore) Royce in the clinch but still. What a cluster fuck.
