So let's say Stipe can't make it and Pav steps in

[storeybuckle]

...and Jones beats down Pascavich even more convincingly than Oldvereem did. Less than 8 hours later, all of the JBJ haters disappear and a chorus of "Pascavich was never any good!" threads appear. We've seen this movie before. We already know the ending.

Jarl

So true! We have seen this many many times!

 

[Captain Herb]

Francis did too ..

Jones is in the UFC wheres Frank?

Ngannou called out Jones the whole time including the initial call out when Jones "agreed"to fight for 30 million dollars. After that he was completely silent until the day Frank left the UFC. Then he started barking like a little dog behind the fence. You can think Jones was up for that fight the whole time but it's not reality

 

[Paolo Delutis]

Ngannou called out Jones the whole time including the initial call out when Jones "agreed"to fight for 30 million dollars. After that he was completely silent until the day Frank left the UFC. Then he started barking like a little dog behind the fence. You can think Jones was up for that fight the whole time but it's not reality

Jones has never ducked anyone...

Do you think a narcissist like Jones fears other people lol..

Only person who scare and beat Jones..is himself

 

[chimpoehurricane]

Yeah, that's highly unlikely.


Fair enough but like I said, that was years ago. I'm talking about now. Who exactly is he ducking in today's HW division that is currently signed with the UFC? I'll wait.

If we talk now, he should be removed from p4p. He fought a contender with 0 TDD and got a world title?

The point waa he spoke HW before 2013. Shows up and fights who? He's already excusing himself from contenders. Next it will be YouTubers or carnival fights. Fedor did that with Choi then he got ktfo by a mw.

Jones should fight Stipe and a contender. He's there for the taking. He lost Reyes and Santos. Has looked weak for ages. His padded record was against dinosaur legends. It was about as relevant as Hughes beating Gracie at 90.

Won lhw beating Shogun a guy Forrest strangled in 1 rd. Jones has been a hw fighting LHWs. He's always had height and reach attributes. When he fights anybody his size, he gets exposed.

 

[chimpoehurricane]

Ngannou called out Jones the whole time including the initial call out when Jones "agreed"to fight for 30 million dollars. After that he was completely silent until the day Frank left the UFC. Then he started barking like a little dog behind the fence. You can think Jones was up for that fight the whole time but it's not reality

Jones is the ultimate play it safe fighter. Despite insane genetics, reach, height, and attributes, he still used gear enough times a lifetime ban waa warranted. He's the king of eye pokes. He's ducked hW for over a decade and if anybody had a TD or wasn't old, he would go on a 3 yr hiatus again.

 

[chimpoehurricane]

He’s doing champ sh*t he’s been on the top of the mountain forever. I’m sure he’s not scared of a guy his old teammate beat down

He's been on gear forever. Unsure how he hasn't got a lifetime ban despite consecutive popping. Usada even manufactured the picogram excuses. Even cheating he loses to Reyes and Santos then flees the stort. Returns for free title shot against a jobber with 0 TDD.

He's more entertaining on tmz.

Sonnen broke the story of him hiding under a cage from usada. <Lmaoo>

 

[tritestill]

He won't fight Pav short notice or full camp, won't fight Tom probably would fight Almeida though and I could see him accepting Blaydes fight, but he's fighting Stipe and nobody else.

 

[Captain_Dammitt]

Jones fights Pav and wins in decisive faction then Sherdog Forums is flooded with posts saying Jones only fought Pav because he's ducking Aspinall and that he should have rescheduled the Stipe fight but he's scared to fight a 42 year old firefighter. There will be 10 threads finding someway to call Jones scared of someone and that he's ducking someone for every one thread there is saying Jones is the GOAT.

 

[Dorkman]

Can’t see it. Jons history of declining short notice replacements even ones he over matches, combined with the fact he’s been doing mental gymnastics already on why stipe is still a legacy win, and why he dosent need to care about the current gen coming up tells me it’s extremely unlikely he would ever accept it.

 

[markys00]

I think Jones tries to reschedule the Stipe fight. He's gone on record saying he likes to fully prepare for his opponents and doesn't take short notice replacements. If he did tho he would get mad props for it. Win or lose I'd respect Jones big time for taking that on short notice and I think everybody else would too.

But it's not late notice.

Do ppl here on sherdog think Jones doesn't know pav is the backup???? Wtf. It's not a late notice fight. It's a scheduled replacement fight

 

[CPH]

Pavlovich has a glass resolve, so unless he sleeps Jones early, it wouldn’t be much of a fight, unfortunately.

 

[Captain Herb]

Jones has never ducked anyone...

Do you think a narcissist like Jones fears other people lol..

Only person who scare and beat Jones..is himself

I just think he's very smart in who he agrees to fight and when. I don't think he's scared of Frank and other fighters, I think he's scared of losing...because he's a narcissist like you said.

 

[CatchtheseHands]

If we talk now, he should be removed from p4p. He fought a contender with 0 TDD and got a world title?

The point waa he spoke HW before 2013. Shows up and fights who? He's already excusing himself from contenders. Next it will be YouTubers or carnival fights. Fedor did that with Choi then he got ktfo by a mw.

Jones should fight Stipe and a contender. He's there for the taking. He lost Reyes and Santos. Has looked weak for ages. His padded record was against dinosaur legends. It was about as relevant as Hughes beating Gracie at 90.

Won lhw beating Shogun a guy Forrest strangled in 1 rd. Jones has been a hw fighting LHWs. He's always had height and reach attributes. When he fights anybody his size, he gets exposed.

He's still p4p at LHW although I do agree, he isn't P4P at HW. That belongs to Big Frank. Anyhow we don't know if Jon will even really retire after the Stipe fight. He may just want to stick around and fight Pav at the least or even one more after that like Aspinal maybe. In my opinion, As of NOW, at this point in time I think it's too early to say Jon is ducking and running away from anyone. If after he theoretically beats Stipe and peaces out then yeah, he's ducking 100%.

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

Who exactly is he ducking? Have you not seen the current top 10 at HW? Jones beats everyone as easy as he did Gane outside of Aspinal, Stipe and Pav. Those are the only match ups with any risk for him.

He’s admitted regularly and across time to picking and choosing matchups. He said years ago that a champ-champ fight with Stipe wasn’t interesting to him because it wasn’t a good mix of danger versus payday. Now it is interesting to him, and it isn’t because the money got better. It’s fine, he’s just saying the quiet part out loud that many guys won’t.

 

[Aurelian]

If we talk now, he should be removed from p4p. He fought a contender with 0 TDD and got a world title?

The point waa he spoke HW before 2013. Shows up and fights who? He's already excusing himself from contenders. Next it will be YouTubers or carnival fights. Fedor did that with Choi then he got ktfo by a mw.

Jones should fight Stipe and a contender. He's there for the taking. He lost Reyes and Santos. Has looked weak for ages. His padded record was against dinosaur legends. It was about as relevant as Hughes beating Gracie at 90.

Won lhw beating Shogun a guy Forrest strangled in 1 rd. Jones has been a hw fighting LHWs. He's always had height and reach attributes. When he fights anybody his size, he gets exposed.

How has Jon been a HW when fighting at LHW? He never missed weight once. It's obvious to anyone with eyes LHW is his natural weight class. Why the selective hate for Jon Jones? There's a lot of arguments that could be used to shit on him but this one is ridiculous.

 

[CatchtheseHands]

He’s admitted regularly and across time to picking and choosing matchups. He said years ago that a champ-champ fight with Stipe wasn’t interesting to him because it wasn’t a good mix of danger versus payday. Now it is interesting to him, and it isn’t because the money got better. It’s fine, he’s just saying the quiet part out loud that many guys won’t.

I mean.. career wise it's smart but it's not the most respectable thing to do. I get it.

 

[nonoob]

Jones has never ducked anyone...

Chael would disagree and Ngannou would nod his head and agree.

2013 was when Pico first said he was going to the heavyweight division.

Not a single heavyweight was ever fought, or even called out, for years after that.

Whether or not jbj would beat Pav, or any other HW, IMHO will never be known.

 

[ermac88]

Jones didn't want to fight a prime Miocic because he didn't think Miocic was famous enough (Miocic's drawing power hasn't changed at all since his first championship reign).

Jones specifically said he didn't want to fight HW-Cormier because the latter would have an advantage over him.

Jones priced himself out of fighting Ngannou and his contract disputes abruptly disappeared once it was confirmed that Ngannou wouldn't be re-signing with the UFC.

And Jones spent most of his career ducking the Heavyweight division altogether (literally has talked about moving up since 2012).

"Jones didn't want to fight a prime Miocic because he didn't think Miocic was famous enough"

Dana White reveals Jon Jones really did offer to fight for heavyweight title at UFC 196

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/mma/dana-w...-fight-for-heavyweight-title-at-ufc-196-61556

"Jones specifically said he didn't want to fight HW-Cormier because the latter would have an advantage over him."

“I think fighting Daniel Cormier at heavyweight would be a bigger challenge. He’s more comfortable there,” Jones told Alexander Lyutikov. “His body type — that’s the way he wants to be, to be big. I definitely think he will be a tougher fight at heavyweight. But I still believe I would win. I believe that I have his number. I know how to beat him.”


"Jones priced himself out of fighting Ngannou and his contract disputes abruptly disappeared once it was confirmed that Ngannou wouldn't be re-signing with the UFC."

Francis Ngannou Turned Down Around $8 Million To Fight Jon Jones, Asked For Health Insurance And Other Benefits For Fighters
https://www.mmafighting.com/2023/1/...nou-turns-down-ufc-jon-jones-is-back-and-more

 

[ermac88]

if Jones refused Chael on short notice in his prime he sure as shit isn't fighting Pav without a full camp

EDIT: If this scenario does happen and he does refuse the fight, it's very possible Jones will have been responsible for 3 separate PPV events being cancelled or moved

GOAT indeed

I'll never understand why he was so scared to take that fight

Jones never takes late notice fights/replacements. Didn’t even accepted the Shael fight… good luck convincing him to fight Pav.

Jones turned Chael Sonnen down on short notice. No, he is not fighting Pavlovich on short notice.

He refused middle weight Chael on short notice. Jones ain't fighting any one if Stipe pulls out.

If pico boy was scared to fight sonnen on short notice, he definitely isn’t fighting pav on short notice lol

Hell yeah!!

People keep forgetting Jones is scared to fight, we've learned that time and time again on Sherdog

-He was afraid of the Pride legend Shogun who was going to break his chicken legs!

-He was afraid of Rashad, because he held him down in camp!

-He was afraid of Lyoto because he punched him in their first fight!

-He was afraid of Chael, because he wouldn't fight an unranked LHW on short notice

-He was afraid of Rampage, because he was going to knock his head off, Pride stylee!

-He was afraid of a rematch with Gus because they went to war!

-He was afraid of DC because he was going to show him HW power and throw him out of the ring

-He was afraid of DC in a second fight (can't remember why) But he was definitely afraid to fight DC a third time!

-He was afraid of HW and Gane because of his size and athleticism

-He was afraid of Francis and WAITED for Francis to turn down the highest pay ever and QUIT MMA, instead of forcing Francis to fight!


Its crazy how he keeps fighting scary and all.
He's not doubt scared of Pavolocich, he just fought on fight night, for free!!!

Jones stays SHOOK

Half way crook. Scared to death, scared to look.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Hell yeah!!

People keep forgetting Jones is scared to fight, we've learned that time and time again on Sherdog

-He was afraid of the Pride legend Shogun who was going to break his chicken legs!

-He was afraid of Rashad, because he held him down in camp!

-He was afraid of Lyoto because he punched him in their first fight!

-He was afraid of Chael, because he wouldn't fight an unranked LHW on short notice

-He was afraid of Rampage, because he was going to knock his head off, Pride stylee!

-He was afraid of a rematch with Gus because they went to war!

-He was afraid of DC because he was going to show him HW power and throw him out of the ring

-He was afraid of DC in a second fight (can't remember why) But he was definitely afraid to fight DC a third time!

-He was afraid of HW and Gane because of his size and athleticism

-He was afraid of Francis and WAITED for Francis to turn down the highest pay ever and QUIT MMA, instead of forcing Francis to fight!


Its crazy how he keeps fighting scary and all.
He's not doubt scared of Pavolocich, he just fought on fight night, for free!!!

Jones stays SHOOK

Half way crook. Scared to death, scared to look.

I am sensing some Sarcasm in this post. LOL
Keep those Jon Jones shriveled nuts in your mouth sherbro.