So im listening to Ray Longo...

[Zerfleischer]

...on the Anik and Florian Podcast and he wants to tell me big fighters in general have more striking power and better ability to take hits than smaller fighters and he also says that's the reason for Conor getting hurt by Diaz punches.
I personally believe it's all about picking your shots and it has nothing to do with size or anything.

I would wonder how he can explain Kaoklai knocking Mighty Mo dead in K-1,
or Gomi dropping Diaz with his "Hadouken"-Punch,
or Charles Bennett knocking out Wandy (i know it's a rumour),
or how Manhoef at least knocks down 70% of the heavyweights he faces.

There are many other examples im sure.

 

[biscuitsbrah]

Im sure it would be easy to KO a baby or an 11 year old kid compared to someone like The Rock. Do you even physics bro?

 

[Lemmy]

I would wonder how he can explain Kaoklai knocking Mighty Mo dead in K-1,

Mo went straight into that shin with his head

or Gomi dropping Diaz with his "Hadouken"-Punch,

he was Gomi

or how Manhoef at least knocks down 70% of the heavyweights he faces.

he is Manhoef

There are many other examples im sure.

sure there are, but they are exceptions.
sometimes it's the fighter who is a monster puncher (Gomi, Manhoef) and sometimes it's a matter of circumstances (Kaoklai).

 

[SpiderCrawl]

He has the fattest legs/ass combo I've ever seen on anyone.

 

[Team Sleep]

When Conor dick riders post this shit, it is important to remind them this invalidates the Aldo KO. It wasn't skill. It was just the height and weight.

 

[Ballsaque]

...on the Anik and Florian Podcast and he wants to tell me big fighters in general have more striking power and better ability to take hits than smaller fighters and he also says that's the reason for Conor getting hurt by Diaz punches.
I personally believe it's all about picking your shots and it has nothing to do with size or anything.

I would wonder how he can explain Kaoklai knocking Mighty Mo dead in K-1,
or Gomi dropping Diaz with his "Hadouken"-Punch,
or Charles Bennett knocking out Wandy (i know it's a rumour),
or how Manhoef at least knocks down 70% of the heavyweights he faces.

There are many other examples im sure.

Ofcourse smaller fights can still hurt bigger fights, wtf kind of logic is that. Doesn't change the fact that size correlates with power, and that it's much easier for a bigger fighter with longer reach to create collisions, like Nate did whenever Conor jumped in with his shots.

 

[Wander777]

I personally believe it's all about picking your shots and it has nothing to do with size or anything.
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Size is not the only factor, but its is a factor backed by physics.

 

[panamaican]

He can explain it with these 2 concepts: generally and exceptions.

Generally means that it's more likely than not to be the rule. It does not mean it's an incontrovertible fact. Exceptions mean that there are times when the opposite is true but they are not frequent enough to justify calling them a rule on their own.

 

[egk]

That's why the boxing adage exists. "A good big man will beat a good little man". Power normally doesn't transfer well as you go up in weight. Rumble Johnson is a huge exception that proves the rule. Of course he was never really a WW.
Lots of people expected this to happen to Conor becuase he's one of the biggest weight cutters in the sport. He half kills himself in order to fight and get an advantage over those "midgets" as he calls them. Fighting smaller guys gave him a false sense of how good he really was.

 

[HwoarangStyle]

I wish I could punch as hard as Melvin Manhoef. Imagine two random fucks try starting shit with you while you're walking down the street or something and you just obliterate them.

 

[Hagelslag2]

As someone who has actually fought from 145lbs up to 170lbs my answer is "It makes a lot of difference". I suggest TS goes 5 rounds with someone his own weight and goes 5 rounds with someone 25lbs heavier. You don't even have to go 100%, let's say both of you go at 80%. Come back to us afterwards.

O yeah, and physics.

 

[Phronimos]

Hey Einstein....
PT = FD
Do you even physics?

 

[dickcheney]

Well based on what you wrote, longo said "in general"

Even if you come up with twenty counter examples, 20 fighters in all of mma still doesn't make longo wrongo

 

[Gervinho]

Im sure it would be easy to KO a baby or an 11 year old kid compared to someone like The Rock. Do you even physics bro?

Trust me ...its super easy. Done that before and they are the softest people out there

 

[Hagelslag2]

Trust me ...its super easy. Done that before and they are the softest people out there

Depends though. If it was an 11-year old Nate Diaz and a glass chinned Rock, you could be in for a long night. By the time you'd have come close to KO'ing Diaz he'd already be 18, take you own and sub you. Incredible cardio and resilience.

 

[RhinoRush]

I personally believe it's all about picking your shots and it has nothing to do with size...

So, in other words, you're a manlet.

 

[Arm Barbarian]

He has the fattest legs/ass combo I've ever seen on anyone.

 

[Jimmy jump]

It's quite simple really. When you have pro-fighters that are trained daily to punch, kick, elbow and knee people with serious power then it would hold that bigger, more powerful fighters would pack a bigger whack than their smaller counterparts.

Yes there are the some exceptions to this but they are few and far between.

 

[KantoTerror]

Precision beats speed...Conor was faster...Nate was more precise...

 

[JohnyBrabo]

As someone who has actually fought from 145lbs up to 170lbs my answer is "It makes a lot of difference". I suggest TS goes 5 rounds with someone his own weight and goes 5 rounds with someone 25lbs heavier. You don't even have to go 100%, let's say both of you go at 80%. Come back to us afterwards.

O yeah, and physics.

I can attest to this. One of my best friends I used to train with was about 225-230 and was a wrestler. Dudes base was just phenomenal, it was like moving a stump. We called him the silverback, even tho for some reason he hated it lol. I always thought it was pretty boss.

To back up your point I only weigh 185,190 tops WAW. The difference I felt when I trained with my buddy was unfuckinreal. Even when like you said we weren't going close to 100%.