Media So Francis is going to HW boxing

[whaleshark]

The CTE is already setting in, not good

rematch TheBEAT!!!

 

[Deleted member 583968]

He's in shape now

Ruiz has very fast, relentless hands. Love watching him box.

 

[JustOnce]

Take what I say with a grain of salt, since I don't follow boxing all that much. But from what I saw in Fury vs Wilder 2, I'd give Ngannou as good a chance as any against either of them.

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[Superior]

Dude has zero technique whatsoever. Amateur HWs would smoke him.

 

[Tweak896]

Kimbo went undefeated in boxing I'm sure Ngannou would do better.

 

[HollywoodSmokeHogan]

He reminds me of a Daniel Dubois

 

[ThunderL1ps]

lol

54 year old Mike Tyson would absolutely BRUTALIZE Ngannou in a boxing match if the fight were made today.

I'd watch them fight.

Hopefully the ring is a proper size this time and no rapid camera switches to create the illusion that there is action; which was atrocious.

 

[ElLunico]

The things that will prevent Francis from ever being competitive against the best boxers are his defense and boxing cardio and that's because of his lack of boxing only training and sparring but for anyone his technique is trash is clueless. Sure a solid fundamental foundation is very important but there have been countless boxers that have an unorthodox style of punching and still had/have great careers.

Wilder, Pacquiao, Froch, Roy Jones Jr., Prince Naseem, Maidana and so forth. I can go on and on. Francis is very accurate despite his somewhat wild hayemakers.

 

[tech99]

Ngannou was breathing heavy in round 2 against Stipe who wasn’t even doing anything. He would get demolished against any top boxer due to his lack of cardio and technicality.

 

[PicoPulse]

You don’t know shit

Cant hear you over your yellow card

 

[PicoPulse]

Judging from Wilder’s past performances, I think it will be a mismatch. What do you see in Ngannou that will pose a problem for Wilder?

Nothing but I also see it vise versa

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

Dude has zero technique whatsoever. Amateur HWs would smoke him.

Literally everyone says that about wilder

 

[Dan the Hangman]

The guy is a terrible boxer, he just windmills hooks and uppercuts. The only reason this works in MMA is people are scared of being taken down, so back up creating more opportunities to windmill. A pro boxer will duck, bob and weave, clinch or sit in the pocket and destroy him.

 

[mraa1]

Boxing elitists as usual overhyping the gap in boxing skill between pro-boxers and other combat sports athletes. If Deontay “tripping over my feet” Wilder can windmill himself to a belt, Ngannou with his physicality, power, and chin, can definitely make some waves in the HW division.

I would have disagreed a few years back but I think the gap has really started to diminish

 

[BreakinTheLaw]

He punches harder than Wilder. Think about that for a second. That can go a loooong way at Heavyweight

 

[tech99]

Literally everyone says that about wilder

The difference is Wilder can actually fight longer than 2 rounds.

 

[Deleted member 583968]

He punches harder than Wilder. Think about that for a second. That can go a loooong way at Heavyweight

Who told you that? Even Dewey Cooper stayed away from saying that.

 

[Deleted member 583968]

Nothing but I also see it vise versa

I don’t see Ngannou’s head movements saving him from getting jabbed by Wilder. You can see Ngannou’s punches when he knocks his opponents out. You often need a slow motion replay to see Wilder’s.

 

[codfather]

He would be eaten alive

The standard in HW boxing really isn't that high.
Here are the top HWs of the last generation (70-81):

1. Vitali (71) - 6'7, 80
   
2. Wlad (76) - 6'6, 81
   
3. Povetkin (79) - 6'2, 75
   
4. Valuev (73) - 7'0, 85
   
5. Ibeabuchi (73) - 6'2, 77
   
6. Byrd (70) - 6'2, 75
   
7. Chagaev (78) - 6'1, 74
   
8. Thompson (71) - 6'5, 81.5
   
9. Tua (72) - 5'10, 70
   
10. Ruiz (72) - 6'2, 78
    
11. Ibragimov (75) - 6'2, 76
    
12. Pulev (81) - 6'4.5, 79.5

Here are the top HW/CWs of the current generation (85-89):

1. Tyson Fury (88) - 6'9, 85, 273
2. Anthony Joshua (89) - 6'6, 82, 245
3. Deontay Wilder (85) - 6'7, 83, 223
4. Oleksandr Usyk (87) - 6'3, 78, 198

Here are the top HWs/CWs of the 90s generation (61-67):

1. Lennox Lewis (65)
   
2. Riddick Bowe (67)
   
3. Evander Holyfield (62)
   
4. Mike Tyson (66)
   
5. Henry Akinwande (65)
   
6. Frank Bruno (61)

Not saying Ngannou will ever be as accomplished as any of those guys, but in terms of size, athleticism and skill, the level isn't out of this world or anything.


Most heavyweight points 1980-1989 (13+)

1. Tyson - USA - 77
2. Spinks - USA - 52
3. Holmes - USA - 46
4. Tucker - USA - 23
5. Holyfield - USA - 23
6. Weaver - USA - 20
7. Witherspoon - USA - 19
8. Pinklon Thomas - USA - 14
9. Foreman - USA - 14
10. Cooney - USA - 13
    
11. Ali - USA - 13
    
12. Dokes - USA - 13
    
13. Tubbs - USA - 13
    
14. Ruddock - Jamaica - 13

Most heavyweight points (1990-1999) (21+)

1. Bowe - USA - 149
2. Holyfield - USA - 103
3. Lewis - UK - 98
4. Tyson - USA - 75
5. Ibeabuchi - Nigeria - 61
   
6. Bruno - UK - 47
7. Tua - Samoa - 45
8. McCall - USA - 30
9. Grant - USA - 30
10. Douglas - USA - 28
11. Holmes - USA - 27
12. Foreman - USA - 24
13. Akinwande - UK - 22
14. Nielsen - Denmark - 22
15. Vitali - Kyrgyzstan - 21

 

[r-harper-1]

Cant hear you over your yellow card

Ouch ....that hurt