Skyrim Special Edition

[Metal_Daze]

Totally understand...

My dream game would be have the combat style of Dark Souls and the open world, gameplay, story and RPG of Elder Scrolls or Fallout.

I love both of those franchises for different reasons. Combining the best elements of them would as glorious as the day some guy accidently got his chocolate stuck in his peanut butter...(lol, if u remember that commercial)

I'd have to take a 2 week vacation from work because I'd get nothing done anyway.

I'd pay $100+ for that game.

I never played Dark Soul because I get easily frustrated. I watched people play and I must say, it's awesome. Combat feels so real and fluid, it's crazy. I don't know much about the story and lore though.

When you have action-driven RPG, history and lore is often the first thing to get cut. That's what makes Skyrim an awesome game: they cut the action to put more history and lore!

Your idea of combining the two games is great but I bet fanboys like me would hate it. Action-people would find it too boring, role-playing people would find too shallow story wise...

 

[Metal_Daze]

All depends on how you use it. If you just run in a hack-n-slash each battle feels the same.

I like how you can explain my 30 lines post with one sentence! That's it: if you go Hack & Slash, you will hate Skyrim. It's all about tactics, use of abilities, use of spells, use of followers, use of conjured minion and use of terrain.

Too complicated for the hack and slash bunch...

 

[Metal_Daze]

That Phenderix Mod makes playing as a Conjuration mage so much better. I love these new summons. Currently going through Dawnguard

There's also a "paladin mod" that boosts the Restoration spell school. It really makes a difference for a warrior mage who doesn't want to go too deep in spell casting. You can focus on Restoration and forget all the other schools!

It's awesome for a Paladin build like this one:

 

[m52nickerson]

I like how you can explain my 30 lines post with one sentence! That's it: if you go Hack & Slash, you will hate Skyrim. It's all about tactics, use of abilities, use of spells, use of followers, use of conjured minion and use of terrain.

Too complicated for the hack and slash bunch...

Exactly. My main character is powerful enough to kill everything with one or two hits and hardly take any damage. However, role playing him, I can take a member or two of a large group out with a bow, cast a summon, and then use slow time and kill a few others before they knew what happened. Then face the final bandit/cult member/Thalmor, in a one on one in which I wait for them to go for a hard blow and the quick reflex perk allows me to spin behind them and run my sword through them.

 

[Tamriel Terror]

Leave the Dark Brotherhood for the last imo. They have the best quests out of all the guilds.

i disagree. I fucking hate the dark brother hood of skyrim lol

Probably because I'm an oblivion fanboy (who had far superior guilds), but the dark brotherhood of skyrim just felt like a shell of the guild in oblivion

 

[Metal_Daze]

Exactly. My main character is powerful enough to kill everything with one or two hits and hardly take any damage. However, role playing him, I can take a member or two of a large group out with a bow, cast a summon, and then use slow time and kill a few others before they knew what happened. Then face the final bandit/cult member/Thalmor, in a one on one in which I wait for them to go for a hard blow and the quick reflex perk allows me to spin behind them and run my sword through them.

That's awesome. My character is an arcane warrior focused on 2-hand combat. No complex spells: only stoneflesh, 1 conjured mininon and a bound weapon. I then use tactics to favor my playing style.

For example, blocking is not spectacular for 2-handed builds. But the quick reflex perk is A MUST: time slows down when you block an enemy's power attack. Remember, enemies very often do power attacks! That means if you're blocking it, time slows down enough to give you time to bash and stagger them to cancel their attack. It gives you a free attack while the enemy's recovering, too!

It's a simple playstyle, akin to Hack'n Slash. But it's the combination of all the elements that make it awesome. I have picked Illia as follower because she's a Destruction Magic beast. There's an exploit with her: if you give her a Circlet, she will unequip her normal robes. You can give her a Master Robe of Destruction and she will wear it. She then becomes insane! Combine the robe with a Circlet of Master Destruction and she will start casting unlimited Frostbite to surrounding enemies!

Now that they're slowed down, time to get in and shatter all that ice!

 

[HereticBD]

I like how you can explain my 30 lines post with one sentence! That's it: if you go Hack & Slash, you will hate Skyrim. It's all about tactics, use of abilities, use of spells, use of followers, use of conjured minion and use of terrain.

Too complicated for the hack and slash bunch...

To be fair, you really don't need to strategize much in Skyrim. You can, if you choose, but it's really not necessary. The melee combat sucks, but as a ranged or hybrid build, you don't need to do much more then spam attacks while walking backwards to kill everything in the game. Get in a tight spot? Simply run away, heal, and go back.

It's only as robust as you make it. Plenty of options for sure, but it's up to the player if they fuck around or not. I'm playing a mage right now, and I've been using nothing but double thunder bolt for the last 40 or so hours(with some buffers of course). Few enemies last more than a few hits.

 

[Metal_Daze]

To be fair, you really don't need to strategize much in Skyrim. You can, if you choose, but it's really not necessary. The melee combat sucks, but as a ranged or hybrid build, you don't need to do much more then spam attacks while walking backwards to kill everything in the game. Get in a tight spot? Simply run away, heal, and go back.

It's only as robust as you make it. Plenty of options for sure, but it's up to the player if they fuck around or not. I'm playing a mage right now, and I've been using nothing but double thunder bolt for the last 40 or so hours(with some buffers of course). Few enemies last more than a few hits.

Very good points. Isn't that the whole point of RPG? The more involved you get, the more fun you have! There are no "speed run" on Skyrim: it would be pointless. The fun comes with the time you spend exploring and the combination of different elements: magic, stealth, melee, range and shouts.

 

[m52nickerson]

That's awesome. My character is an arcane warrior focused on 2-hand combat. No complex spells: only stoneflesh, 1 conjured mininon and a bound weapon. I then use tactics to favor my playing style.

For example, blocking is not spectacular for 2-handed builds. But the quick reflex perk is A MUST: time slows down when you block an enemy's power attack. Remember, enemies very often do power attacks! That means if you're blocking it, time slows down enough to give you time to bash and stagger them to cancel their attack. It gives you a free attack while the enemy's recovering, too!

It's a simple playstyle, akin to Hack'n Slash. But it's the combination of all the elements that make it awesome. I have picked Illia as follower because she's a Destruction Magic beast. There's an exploit with her: if you give her a Circlet, she will unequip her normal robes. You can give her a Master Robe of Destruction and she will wear it. She then becomes insane! Combine the robe with a Circlet of Master Destruction and she will start casting unlimited Frostbite to surrounding enemies!

Now that they're slowed down, time to get in and shatter all that ice!

Illia is the Steward at Heljarchen hall. It's fun to find dead bandits riddled with ice spikes and her just starting to chop wood like nothing happened.

I also think Disarm is an underused shout. It's great to use it and make those archers have to try and run up to you.

 

[Metal_Daze]

Illia is the Steward at Heljarchen hall. It's fun to find dead bandits riddled with ice spikes and her just starting to chop wood like nothing happened.

I also think Disarm is an underused shout. It's great to use it and make those archers have to try and run up to you.

Thank you for that information, I didn't know it.

That's what I mean when I say the lore of Tamriel is awesome. So many details, even a veteran like me learns new things every day. In Vanilla Skyrim, I had a mod to make unread book glow. That way, I was sure not to miss anything! I read all the in-game books I could find. That's how I know Skyrim's story is awesome!

When I hear people say things like "Skrim story is shit", I freak out. Of course it's shit, you didn't read it! If it's not your kind of game, leave it be. Don't say the story is shit if you don't know it! Personally, I hate FPS games. You don't see me crashing the Counterstrike thread claiming "The FPS on Counterstrike is shit". How would I know? I don't play it! I tried it once, hated it.

That's all there is to it.
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Disarm is a great shout, perfect for Archers on higher ground. My personal favorite shout is Slow Time: combined with an Amulet of Talos and the Shrine of Talos, you can spend half your game in slo-mo if you want to!

 

[Dizzy]

Would have bought this but the Prime deal didn't work for some reason so I'm holding off until there's a decent drop in price. All the talk ITT has made me want to get back to it but I've got enough to keep me busy in the meantime.

 

[m52nickerson]

Thank you for that information, I didn't know it.

That's what I mean when I say the lore of Tamriel is awesome. So many details, even a veteran like me learns new things every day. In Vanilla Skyrim, I had a mod to make unread book glow. That way, I was sure not to miss anything! I read all the in-game books I could find. That's how I know Skyrim's story is awesome!

When I hear people say things like "Skrim story is shit", I freak out. Of course it's shit, you didn't read it! If it's not your kind of game, leave it be. Don't say the story is shit if you don't know it! Personally, I hate FPS games. You don't see me crashing the Counterstrike thread claiming "The FPS on Counterstrike is shit". How would I know? I don't play it! I tried it once, hated it.

That's all there is to it.
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Disarm is a great shout, perfect for Archers on higher ground. My personal favorite shout is Slow Time: combined with an Amulet of Talos and the Shrine of Talos, you can spend half your game in slo-mo if you want to!

I meant to say that she is my steward and at Heljarchen hall. Not that it was something in lore.

The lore books are great. I tend to hoard books to fill book shelves and read one at least every time I play. I also like the simple stories told without any words. Like were you can find a tend near the water and their are two bedrolls some empty wine bottles and an amulet of Mara.

 

[Metal_Daze]

I meant to say that she is my steward and at Heljarchen hall. Not that it was something in lore.

The lore books are great. I tend to hoard books to fill book shelves and read one at least every time I play. I also like the simple stories told without any words. Like were you can find a tend near the water and their are two bedrolls some empty wine bottles and an amulet of Mara.

As a hard smoker, I use books as smoke breaks! When I'm feeling the urge, I search for a bookshelf or a pile of books and roam through them while preparing my "magic potion"

 

[Metal_Daze]

I meant to say that she is my steward and at Heljarchen hall. Not that it was something in lore.

The lore books are great. I tend to hoard books to fill book shelves and read one at least every time I play. I also like the simple stories told without any words. Like were you can find a tend near the water and their are two bedrolls some empty wine bottles and an amulet of Mara.

Got it. Still, there's a lot of hidden lore in Skyrim. I like what you said: a good story is always better without words. It's when you find the elements by yourself that you really live the story.

The bedrolls, wine bottle and amulet of mara campsite is the perfect example: no need to say "they're fucking in the wood". All the elements are there for us to come to this conclusion!

 

[Falsedawn]

i disagree. I fucking hate the dark brother hood of skyrim lol

Probably because I'm an oblivion fanboy (who had far superior guilds), but the dark brotherhood of skyrim just felt like a shell of the guild in oblivion

But they are, like literally lol.

 

[Tamriel Terror]

But they are, like literally lol.

i mainly mean in terms of engaging quests. I know they are the last remnants of the dark brotherhood, but i just had no interest in the characters, storyline, etc.

Thats one thing i can't stand about skyrim, (the utter shitty main quests). The DB quest, the Civil war quest, the Alduin main quest none were as good as storylines in oblivion, same with dlcs

 

[m52nickerson]

i mainly mean in terms of engaging quests. I know they are the last remnants of the dark brotherhood, but i just had no interest in the characters, storyline, etc.

Thats one thing i can't stand about skyrim, (the utter shitty main quests). The DB quest, the Civil war quest, the Alduin main quest none were as good as storylines in oblivion, same with dlcs

The quests for the civil war are pretty lack luster.

Dragonborn - So let me get this straight, I kill Alduin, in Sovngarde, after reading an Elder Scroll and killing multiple dragons and absorbing there souls and you want me to go kill an ice wreath to see if I'm Stormcloak material.

Galmar - Yup!

...outside the quests making the choice is a interesting process.

 

[m52nickerson]

@Metal_Daze You said you like Elder Scroll lore, have you seen the Shoddy Case Lore series on Youtube?

 

[TeTe]

This Nightingale sword loses it's charge fast.. is there a perk that slows that down?

 

[Falsedawn]

This Nightingale sword loses it's charge fast.. is there a perk that slows that down?

I don't think so, it's a leveled item. Only way to increase the stats is to get it at a later level.

You better get the Azuras Star/Mace of Molag Bal combo for infinite soul gem lol.