Size Matter ?!?

[Dan Torrance]

and in a real fight between Ali vs Ray these tricks would be useless, Ali strength would crush Ray.

HW Power overcome little guys skills every Day...

Rocky Marcino's fight night weight weight was likely less than Khabib's.

 

[NEETzschean]

You cannot punch what you cannot catch.

Is Mayweather a faster runner than Stipe? Yes or no.

Does Mayweather have more head movement than Stipe? Yes or no.

Is Mayweather shorter and smaller than Stipe? Yes or no.

A smaller fighter is a smaller target.

Have you seen Mayweather run around the ring for 12 rounds?

Has Ngannou ever fought for 12 rounds before? Yes or no.

It's much easier to defend against strikes in a boxing ring with ropes compared to mma. Ngannou cannot pin Mayweather against the cage. The boxing ropes help Mayweather because they still allow movement.

Boxing gloves are much bigger than mma gloves for defense, and they also reduce the power of Ngannou's punches. Boxing gloves help Mayweather.

Floyd has been dropped by men who weighed little more than ten stone wearing 10oz gloves and he respected their power (tiny Marcos Maidana hurt Floyd so much that Floyd paid him to wear different gloves in the rematch). 20 stone explosive power puncher Ngannou would bumrush Floyd, anything he landed on the gloves (let alone the arms) would shake Floyd up badly and anything he landed clean on the body or head would KO Floyd instantly. He could simply run into Floyd, clinch to hold him in place and punch his way out of the clinch, knocking Floyd out. The fight would be over in the first round, probably in the first 30 seconds of the first round. Floyd would have no power whatsoever to deter Ngannou and catching Floyd with a punch for a man who's happy to hit anything is easier than swatting a fly.

 

[brownsmith76]

20 stone explosive power puncher Ngannou would bumrush Floyd, anything he landed on the gloves (let alone the arms) would shake Floyd up badly

Did Maidana bumrush in the first 20 seconds? Or did he have to work for his punches?

Who's a faster runner, Ngannou or Maidana?

Who's a faster puncher, Ngannou or Maidana?

You can't just look at power. You have to consider the speed, timing, and technique required to land on Mayweather.

 

[MaxMMA]

Lol at all the clowns in this thread that don't understand what an exibition is. Paul was gassed after round 1 and completely drenched in sweat. Even at 44 Floyd could have swarmed him with volume any round after 1 and got the fatigue TKO if not full blown KO.

The reason he didn't was because it was an EXIBITION... E.X.B.I.T.I.O.N. He was paid to get in there and gave fun with the dude.

 

[NEETzschean]

Did Maidana bumrush in the first 20 seconds? Or did he have to work for his punches?

Who's a faster runner, Ngannou or Maidana?

Who's a faster puncher, Ngannou or Maidana?

You can't just look at power. You have to consider the speed, timing, and technique required to land on Mayweather.

Maidana essentially bumrushed Floyd all fight but Maidana has a tiny fraction of Ngannou's power. Floyd is not Neo from the Matrix who can evade every punch; he is very good at avoiding clean shots but this only works because his opponents are trying to hit his head or body to score points and do damage rather than just trying to hit anything. They don't have the power to hurt him badly with shots on the arms and gloves, heavyweights do. Heavyweights can often sprint faster than short welterweights, especially highly explosive heavyweights. Even the wild, out of shape Ngannou from the first fight landed plenty on Stipe when trying to take his head off (the head being a small target that's easy and fast to move and which fighters protect at all costs) but Floyd only needs one and he's finished. How can Floyd stop Ngannou running up to him, grabbing and then hitting for example? There are weight categories for a reason.

 

[brownsmith76]

How can Floyd stop Ngannou running up to him, grabbing and then hitting for example?

Prolonged clinching is not allowed.

Punches in a clinch are reduced in power.

Mayweather is much faster than Ngannou. Ngannou might gas out just from trying to catch up with him.



None of Ngannou's opponents have ever done this in their fights.

 

[MarleyLynx]

Nah brah, it doesn't matter, anything above 6" is unnecessary. It's all about skills and how you use what you have.

Spoiler

 

[Cat Biscuits]

Give them endless rounds with no clinching and Floyd would finish him.

A big guy like that can hold on and stall the fight, but if the fight only ends when a KO is produced, Floyd would give him brain damage.

 

[bl0b]

Obviously you didn't really understand what you watched, Floyd had every incentive to be safe

Yikes. I'm worried about you buddy. My low intelligence radar is going nuts.

 

[Bruce Lee666]

Ngannou would have an easy time with Floyd. Floyd has no power at all to make him damage so there is no risk at all of getting counter KOd.

Ngannou would only need to rush like crazy and throw dozens of punches, one would land and it would be more than enough

Floyd vs Francis would be like that, imagine a truck at full speed against a person.

 

[Kono dio da!]

I love when MMA nerds think pro fighters below welterweight could do shit to random person of 6'5 230lbs who trains.

Yeah but the big guy trains. Untrained big guys loses bigly.

 

[3rdAccount]

Floyd finished off Conor, but he couldn't finish off a bigger guy.

that's why dwarves can't be considered the best Fighters or GOAT, they don't have the strength of the bigger guys.

Roberto Duran proved that skill takes a guy to some extent, but it's not enough to overcome the difference in size and weight.

Logan wasn't looking to fight after the first round.

 

[SherdogFan23]

Tim Silvia got finished by dwarves on a few fights.

 

[TRYHARD 2001]

He shouldn't say always, but it's usually the case just because there are very few people out there big enough to compete with the HW's

Deontay Wilder made it to the Olympics in a few years lol

That's always been the case with HW boxers. You get guys like Ali who did it since they were kids, but by and large HW boxers get into boxing later on in life but manage to do great things (the power factor is the difference).

George Foreman started boxing when he was 17. Earnie Shavers started when he was 21. Ron Lyle took it up in prison when he was 26 apparently! The "great eraser" helps cancel out the inevitable technical flaws in a raw HW's game... until they face a Larry Holmes, Ali, or most recently Tyson Fury who's been doing this shit for much, much longer (and is tough as all hell).

 

[MotorCityCobra]

Roger Huerta was primarily known for fighting at LW in the UFC. The guy laid out was a former pro football player.

Posted about this 100 times but always quote in when brought up.

The guy ran from 5 people trying to hit him. Even if Huerta is the one who initially dropped him...they weren't fighting like you would see in an MMA match. To suggest this proves anything let's see some videos of big aggressive strong guys getting their ass beat by little fighters (not grappling or boxing but actually fighting)

 

[MotorCityCobra]

Mayweather over Ngannou? LMAO.

I prefer boxing over MMA and have been defending it from the morons here for 15 years, but I think Luke Rockhold could KO Mayweather even in boxing, let alone Francis Ngannou.

Floyd is the size of an 8th grader, sadly that does matter.