Since when is 180 big at 5’7?

[PlayTheGame]

I like my fighters built like Kevin Durant and Wembayama

Do you guys think he'd snap in half if someone like Cain Velasquez double legged him?

 

[bjjwar]

To the bolded: depends on what part of the world. In most of the world, 5'7'' is around average for a man if not even a bit above average in some places.

To the italicized: only if you consider that most grown men are overweight. If most grown men were actually in legitimate athletic shape - and I don't mean gym shape either; I mean actual trim old school boxer kind of shape - then even men around six feet tall would typically weigh below 180 pounds (weight range 140 - 180 pounds with around 150 - 165 being most typical), let alone 5'7'' tall men.

For reference Carlos Alcaraz, 6'0'' or 6'1'' tall 163 lbs in trim and athletic shape:

And this is a world class athlete in peak athletic condition. He could be ten or fifteen pounds lighter and still be healthy.

You’re actually right, i’ve looked up the athletes around 5ft9-6ft0 which is kinda the average height and they’re all almost below 180lbs. Other than ofc some pro rugby players etc. Totally misjudged their weight.

But they’re not « big » guys. From 6ft3-4 and 220 lbs in shape guy you can start calling them big. The 180lbs athletes are still average. A guy like Ilia is a midget.

 

[Superzorro]

If you’re constantly in the gym and around people who work out, you’re going to underestimate how fat and skinny a lot of Americans are. Most people can’t even do five push ups.

 

[BroScienceTalkatWork]

But fighters are not bodybuilders, it'snot functional for their goals. Most people are not bodybuilders. Fighters are not 20% body fat (generally) in the lower weight classes.

Even the fighters who are not natty doesn't blast gear like a bodybuilder would to get more muscle. Biggest advantage would be for recovery purposes and to maintain muscle mass even while doing tons and tons of cardio.

I don't blast gear like a bodybuilder. If I did, I damn sure wouldn't brag about being 210 pounds

That's one advantage. Bone density is another one.. Plus fast twitch muscle. Once i got up to a cruise dose (250 MG), I noticed that the gap between my 5-10 rep PRs and my 1 reps grew.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Most people who claim to be 5'9 are probably 5'7, and "5'9" at 180 isn't an odd weight at all even if youre not eating donuts all day.

Most people really get their heights off, so everyones scale is kind of skewed.

 

[TimeToTrain]

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[OleBuffalo]

To the bolded: depends on what part of the world. In most of the world, 5'7'' is around average for a man if not even a bit above average in some places.

To the italicized: only if you consider that most grown men are overweight. If most grown men were actually in legitimate athletic shape - and I don't mean gym shape either; I mean actual trim old school boxer kind of shape - then even men around six feet tall would typically weigh below 180 pounds (weight range 140 - 180 pounds with around 150 - 165 being most typical), let alone 5'7'' tall men.

For reference Carlos Alcaraz, 6'0'' or 6'1'' tall 163 lbs in trim and athletic shape:

And this is a world class athlete in peak athletic condition. He could be ten or fifteen pounds lighter and still be healthy.

Did you do the photoshop for the second photo as a joke

 

[mraa1]

I'm sorry but 210 and 5' 7" in shape is non-proportional like a dwarf. I am tending to think all of these short heights and high weights claimed in this thread are overweight Sherbros.

Healthy Weight Range for 6 ft Tall Men​

• Based on a BMI of 18.5–24.9, the National Institutes of Health’s BMI tables indicate a 6 ft male’s healthy weight should fall between 140 lb and 184 lb Medical News TodayNHLBI, NIH.
• Clinical ideal body weight (IBW) tables often narrow this to 166 lb–202 lb for 6 ft tall men, accounting for variations in frame size and methodology Kolors Healthcare.
• HealthifyMe’s chart similarly suggests an optimal weight of about 140–185 lb at 6 ft for healthy BMI values Healthify.

140 lbs at 6 feet is grotesque. No way is that healthy man

 

[sonhow]

180 is a big human being. Im thinking ts is a fat fuck but somehow sees distorted view of himself when looking in the mirror lol.

That or theres some extra horse meat in that system

 

[MetaIIica]

Joe rogan is 5’5 and 230

 

[MetaIIica]

140 lbs at 6 feet is grotesque. No way is that healthy man

Science and statistics !

 

[Paolo Delutis]

According to this DDP is an obese and unhealthy

Have u ever seen ddp on weigh in...he cuts alot of water and u can be over muscled..for daily living..

People seem to think its healthy to walk around like bodybuilders... its not ..body building is an extreme sport that borders on experimental way to live as a human...these guys get several health issues over time from being too big/heavy for their frames ,

Being overweight with muscles is still bad, just not as bad as being a lard ass with clogged arteries...

The body is meant to be in balance to be truly "healthy"..

 

[colorles]

210 at 5'7 you're fat af, just saying lol. Bone structure makes a difference but not as much as one might think. Vast majority of people who 210, even if they are a bit tall are still overweight. Jiri Prochazka is only 208pbs on fight night.

This, more or less. Every inch of height equates to anywhere from 5 to 10 pounds of more weight on a man. So all things considered, height adds more weight than anything else. And, I will also agree that most people that say they weigh what they weight because of a "robust frame" are actually fat. Even a guy like Mark Hunt - who does have a more robust frame than most - is still fat and if in shape would weigh around 200 pounds give or take and could fight as low as middle weight. Don't believe me? check this out from his early kickboxing career :



At 25 years old he weighed 92 kg - so approximately 202 pounds - for this fight. He is clearly in the best shape of his career for this fight, and could cut down to middleweight in mma if he really wanted to.

BUT ALSO, with that said: I want to emphasis that, for actually in shape men - no gym bros mind you; but men in actual old school trim boxing shape - 200 pounds is a large man. For reference most men that a six feet tall barefoot, will weigh between 140 - 180 pounds in actual trim athletic shape (with the vast majority of them being between 150 and 165 pounds). And these won't be "twigs" if they are athletes, but guys with wide shoulders and athletic frames; just with low body fat and no muscle mass beyond what is needed for athletic movements. In fact i've seen guys that height and that weight - 6'0'' 165 pounds that looked bigger and stronger than shorter men that weighed 200 pounds or more, because the bone structure and shoulder structure on the taller, trimmer man was so much more impressive naturally.

So, when you exclude being overweight from a combination of excess body fat and excess muscle mass, you realize that a 200 pound man in actual trim athletic shape is a large man. In fact, a man that is 6'0'' and weighs 165 pounds in actual trim athletic shape is a good sized man as well. The modern conception of what men should weigh is massively blown out of proportion due to most of the population being overweight and carrying too much mass - be it fluff or gym muscle or some combination of the two -, as well as cinema were movie stars are jacked and that becomes the "social norm to aspire to".

This is what a healthy man looked like in the 1960's:

That's all you ever needed lads - the body you were born with and naturally grew into as a man

 

[BroScienceTalkatWork]

An inch of height does not add 10 pounds bro. That's ludicrous

If that was true then 6' 6 195 would scale down to 5' 6 75 pounds.

1 Inch adds between 5 and 6 pounds. And most UFC fighters are built wide as fuck.

The average welterweight is something like 5'11 (rounding to 6 obvs) and fighting at 190 dude. Walking around 200 lean.


As far as physique goes, I absolutely agree. I have taller friends that weigh 20 pounds less and look bigger or as big as I do. That's a fair point.

But I'm telling you right now - any fighter average height or less (for his weight class) is built like a brick shithouse. If you took the average lean athletic dude at.. say 5' 10 165.. You would tell him add 10 pounds of muscle and fight featherweight.. if he can't do that, he's fighting Bantamweight.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

Comparing an athlete an average sized man who's carrying a shit ton of extra fat is a little silly. You should say "healthy" instead of "average", because those are not the same thing, and a healthy weight for a regular 5'7 guy is probably like 150 lbs on the high end.

Yeah, this is where the thread falls apart. No one is talking about some guy at home, they're talking about a professional athlete

 

[zakk]

Op may be on to something. Kilmar looks just like an average american and he is 5'6 215 and has to survive El Salvador concentration Camps:

 

[JustforBROCK]

As a guy who walks around 210 at 5’7.. under 25% body fat.. I’m kinda taken back by this forums strange obsession with Ilia’s weight. Same with Reddit to be fair

We can all agree the most average sized man is 180 20% bodyfat

Illia is only 2 inches shorter then the average man, and denser, stronger and wider

but it begs the question - are you guys skinny or something? 180 is a pretty meager weight for anyone with a decent bone structure

The average weight for a 6'6 man is 220 lbs. lol.

 

[zakk]

The average weight for a 6'6 man is 220 lbs. lol.

The average weight for a 5'6 manlet is 220. Brah

 

[BroScienceTalkatWork]

The average weight for a 5'6 manlet is 220. Brah

Hey man.. If you put on enough weight you will slump forward and look shorter.
I'm trying to get to 250 5' 4

 

[zakk]

op getting ready for the weekend: