Since when is 180 big at 5’7?

Ilia is built but still small. I'm like 6 foot fluctuate between 165 and 185, and was shocked meeting guys like McGregor and Mayweather.... they are small guys (5'7ish and thin).

But canelo is built like someone who is 5'7 200. Maybe he's like that?

If someone is 5'6 with 14-14.5 inch arms and a 30 inch waist....they arent big... at all.
 
You must be a manlet. Even I @ 6'0" and 225 pounds barely pass the manlet test.
 
Spend less time at the gym and more time freshly watered, mulched and standing in the Sun OP
 
The fact you people push this thread to 5 pages is why people keep making white belt accounts and creating retarded threads.
 
It is not just about height vs weight. It is also about BMI as it relates to load on heart. Even when I was doing heavy bodybuilding before pandemic (6 times a week with 1 hour sessions for all except sundays when I did 2 hours), I put on a solid 15 lbs of lean muscle mass going from 170 lbs to 185 lbs with a less than 15% fat and a 31 inch waist. At ny heaviest, I saw 190 lbs, but most of the time I saw 185 lbs. I was eating about 3000 - 3500 calories a day of very clean protein from chicken, breast, carbs from sweet potatoes and I would only have 2 cheat meals per week. I was measured 5'9.5" back in my 20s. Might have shrunk a bit now and might be around 5'8.5" or 5'9".

So, while I was very proud of my 45 inch chest with thick pecs, 17 inch arms, 13 inch forearms, 31 inch waist even at 185 lbs, I realized after a while, your heart is meant to handle a certain amount of weight at a certain height. So while I was always brushing off BMI, the heart cannot tell a difference between fat or muscle. In fact, heart works harder to pump blood into muscles. Therefore, if you are heavy for the height, it is going to make the heart work a lot harder and over time could result in enlargement of the heart.


All in all, after the pandemic started, I lost all of the lean muscle mass in weeks. Got down to 163 - 164 lbs and became extremely lean. Just do cardio now and always remain in a caloric deficit (consume about 2000 calories a day and burn around 3000 - 3500 calories). All of my numbers are in the normal range including cholestrol, triglycerides, sugars, LDL, HDL etc. Case in point, one always has to think about the cardio aspect and how much load the weight is putting on the heart for long term sustainability. I might go back to doing bodybuilding, but will definitely stay away from going up to 185 - 190 lbs even with the extremely lean muscle mass because of the aforementioned reasons.

Best post in this thread. That is what BMI charts are referring to by healthy weight. As for the other poster that listed the healthy weight range of 140 - 180 pounds for a 6 ft tall man; that is accurate. Most 6ft tall men will weigh something in that range if they have athletic low bodyfat and no excessive muscle mass. That is the weight range the heart wants a 6ft man to be. Of course that range of weights applies to some men being ectomorphs - and thus lighter - and others being mesomorph and endomorphs and thus heavier. But most men are carrying some combination of too much fat, and/or too much muscle.

As for 5'7'', most of the athletic guys I know around that height are typically between 125 - 150 pounds.

For reference of what weights are actually supposed to look like without excess muscle and fat, here is Alexander Volkov fighting at 225 lbs:



And Volkov is a strong 6'7'' barefoot if not taller. He is clearly in trim and athletic shape in this fight. This matches up with what another poster in this thread said about how basketball players around 6'6'' in height and up are typically in athletic shape around 210 lbs and up (albeit it usually with some weights lifting regimens) - although it is not uncommon for basketball players to be such heights and below that or below 200 lbs. For reference guys around 6'3'' are typically around 180 give or take. Here is Delonte West, height 6'3'' weight 181 pounds:

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And that is in athletic shape with some athletic muscle on his frame. He could get below 170 and still be healthy.

Chuck Connors 6'6'' 190 lbs

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Too much cinema for you lads. Too much gym culture. Anything more than trim athletic muscle is not good for the body and in most cases is not good for an athlete either (depending on the sport). Not to mention the lard asses that underestimate how fat they are.

For more reference Zlatan Ibrahimovic 6'5'' 209 pounds (give or take) in trim and athletic shape:

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5 ft 7 is really short for an adult men and 180 is way below average for a grown man too. These dudes are all so tiny, idk how anyone can say they’re big lol. They look like child toys in real life.
 
Yeah, athletes aren't 25% bodyfat, they're probably more in the 10-15% range. Really only HWs are any higher than that and can show up with a bunch of fat jiggling around the cage.

Comparing an athlete an average sized man who's carrying a shit ton of extra fat is a little silly. You should say "healthy" instead of "average", because those are not the same thing, and a healthy weight for a regular 5'7 guy is probably like 150 lbs on the high end.
This thread reminds me of high schoolers saying they are bigger than franco columbo because they lift and weigh more and are the same height.
 
Sergio Ramos is 180lbs and Ilia looked like a small child next to him. Dudes bones must weight alot, bc he’s a midget and has a scrawny frame.
 
As a guy who walks around 210 at 5’7.. under 25% body fat.. I’m kinda taken back by this forums strange obsession with Ilia’s weight. Same with Reddit to be fair

We can all agree the most average sized man is 180 20% bodyfat

Illia is only 2 inches shorter then the average man, and denser, stronger and wider

but it begs the question - are you guys skinny or something? 180 is a pretty meager weight for anyone with a decent bone structure
I dunno man, i'm 6"1 at like 180 lbs and 95% body fat. i feel terrible. jk i'm like 300 lbs. but no body fat. all skin. i have alot of skin.
 
5 ft 7 is really short for an adult men and 180 is way below average for a grown man too. These dudes are all so tiny, idk how anyone can say they’re big lol. They look like child toys in real life.

To the bolded: depends on what part of the world. In most of the world, 5'7'' is around average for a man if not even a bit above average in some places.

To the italicized: only if you consider that most grown men are overweight. If most grown men were actually in legitimate athletic shape - and I don't mean gym shape either; I mean actual trim old school boxer kind of shape - then even men around six feet tall would typically weigh below 180 pounds (weight range 140 - 180 pounds with around 150 - 165 being most typical), let alone 5'7'' tall men.

For reference Carlos Alcaraz, 6'0'' or 6'1'' tall 163 lbs in trim and athletic shape:

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And this is a world class athlete in peak athletic condition. He could be ten or fifteen pounds lighter and still be healthy.
 
Alexander Zverev 6'6'' 198 lbs :

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That is what a world class athlete in peak physical condition looks like at 6'6'' 198 lbs.
 
Under 25% is underestimating Illia, he's prob sub 15% and prob sub 10% near fight week

*at FW
 
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