Elections Should the US election be decided by electoral votes or popular votes?

[Magooglie]

im glad we agree you know even less

That's not a nice way to talk to your teacher. How would you know of congress if not for me? I give you an F- for this class.

good... you still need to fix you sarcasm radar

I'm glad we agree you're a troll.

thats an opinion based on nothing

Please stop acting so hurt that you couldn't counter any of my arguments.

so far all you did is prove youre clueless about a country you claim to live in but pretend that you know what you're talking about...

if you're truly an american youll be prime example why popular vote is not a good thing.

basically any clueless moron has the right to vote

Yes, there are people who can be clueless morons and have the right to vote in the US. You can also be a clueless moron like you and not have the right to vote because you're not an American citizen. But I guess you posting incoherently on sherdog somehow, maybe scratches the itch for you.

 

[Magooglie]

thats called deflecting cause you know you got exposed as a clueless buffoon

Yes or No clown shoes.

 

[bobgeese]

OK, if the measure is satisfying True Progressive loons like Krystal Ball, Trump is better. But by any sane measure, Biden has been a huge success so far.

Such a huge success Democrat mayors are blasting him on his terrible decisions. Sorry Jack, you're taking the L on this one.



"u have a breach on national security levels that have never before been seen in modern history and you're not even batting an eye about it, you're not even calling it a 'crisis', you're calling it a 'challenge,'" Del Rio Mayor Bruno Lozano


"It's a slap in the face. It just blows my mind how disconnected from reality [they are] or maybe they do know, maybe they just don't want to call a spade a spade, you know, because it's uncomfortable, It was completely predictable," he continued. "You have this policy where unlawful entry is being condoned, criminal activity is being condoned, these migrants are using the cartels to traverse Mexico and that's a fact and organized criminal activity is rising because of that. I'm calling them out, I'm so frustrated as a border town mayor about all of this," he said.

 

[grimballer]

So you don't know of any that avoid the popular vote like the U.S.? And plenty of federal states have internal states with high autonomy. Hence your dribbling on and on about sovereignty is silly.

canada doesn't have popular vote...

also why would us, with longest lasting democracies, try to emulate countries who were dictatorships 50 years ago?

it makes no sense

 

[weed]

Frankly, we should have a test before you're allowed to vote.

in my heart I disagree with this because I was raised, like many others, to recognize that the right to vote is one of, if not the most important right we have as Americans.


but in today's climate, & all the partisanship hackery that just won't die out.. people seemingly are only dumbing themselves down.

so testing kind of does make sense. plus, it'll eliminate all this voter fraud bullshit.

 

[grimballer]

Yes or No clown shoes.

maybe

 

[Magooglie]

maybe

No or No clown shoes.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Such a huge success Democrat mayors are blasting him on his terrible decisions. Sorry Jack, you're taking the L on this one.

No. Look at any measure you want. Biden has exceeded expectations and is shaping up to be a historically great president. Good piece on his first major accomplishment:

https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/bidens-first-big-win-and-what-comes

But, yeah, quote some politician that no one has heard of whining about something. That's totally a better argument than looking at reality. Seriously, if you can quote yourself saying that you care what that guy thinks before three months ago, I won't laugh at you. Like if it's your general view that the mayor of Del Rio is the ultimate arbiter of reality, I'll think that's crazy but I'll at least respect that you're not just a hack (like if you said, "I thought Trump was good, but then I saw that the mayor of Del Rio criticized him so now I don't").

 

[bobgeese]

in my heart I disagree with this because I was raised, like many others, to recognize that the right to vote is one of, if not the most important right we have as Americans.


but in today's climate, & all the partisanship hackery that just won't die out.. people seemingly are only dumbing themselves down.

so testing kind of does make sense. plus, it'll eliminate all this voter fraud bullshit.

As a child, with my naïve vision of humanity, I too thought everyone should have a voice. Now as an adult, daily I observe unfathomable stupidity on display from both parties, young and old, from the whitest people to those dark as night.

I'm reminded that we are apes flying around on a rock competing over limited resources, and many people are barely more intelligent than their knuckle dragging ancestors. As such, we should probably disregard the voices of those who have no idea what they're talking about.

 

[Magooglie]

in my heart I disagree with this because I was raised, like many others, to recognize that the right to vote is one of, if not the most important right we have as Americans.


but in today's climate, & all the partisanship hackery that just won't die out.. people seemingly are only dumbing themselves down.

so testing kind of does make sense. plus, it'll eliminate all this voter fraud bullshit.

I actually think it would exacerbate voter fraud accusations as the overlap between people who can't pass a voting test and people who strongly believe in voter fraud is probably high.

 

[avenue94]

canada doesn't have popular vote...

also why would us, with longest lasting democracies, try to emulate countries who were dictatorships 50 years ago?

it makes no sense

Yes they do. Do you not understand how a Westminsterian system works?

And the U.S. has been a democracy for about a century in my book. To describe pre-20th century America as one is laughable. Proto-democracy? Sure. Actual one? Nope. The point is governance has advanced in the last 3 centuries. The U.S. should take advantage of those advances.

 

[bobgeese]

No. Look at any measure you want. Biden has exceeded expectations and is shaping up to be a historically great president. Good piece on his first major accomplishment:

https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/bidens-first-big-win-and-what-comes

But, yeah, quote some politician that no one has heard of whining about something. That's totally a better argument than looking at reality. Seriously, if you can quote yourself saying that you care what that guy thinks before three months ago, I won't laugh at you. Like if it's your general view that the mayor of Del Rio is the ultimate arbiter of reality, I'll think that's crazy but I'll at least respect that you're not just a hack (like if you said, "I thought Trump was good, but then I saw that the mayor of Del Rio criticized him so now I don't").

I mean sure he's just a mayor, it's not like he can possibly compare to


Noahpinion.substack.com







Nice work Jack.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I mean sure he's just a mayor, it's not like he can possibly compare to

Noahpinion.substack.com

Nice work Jack.

First, Smith is a heavy hitter in terms of analysis. But second, I'm not quoting Smith and asking you to just agree with his opinion because of his lofty position ("who do you think you are presuming to suggest that the mayor of Del Rio might be wrong?!!?!"). I'm linking to analysis of an actual bill that actually passed.

 

[grimballer]

That's not a nice way to talk to your teacher. How would you know of congress if not for me? I give you an F- for this class.


I'm glad we agree you're a troll.



Please stop acting so hurt that you couldn't counter any of my arguments.

you know you can tske meds for schizophrenia, right?

Yes, there are people who can be clueless morons and have the right to vote in the US. You can also be a clueless moron like you and not have the right to vote because you're not an American citizen. But I guess you posting incoherently on sherdog somehow, maybe scratches the itch for you.

its not a good look when ppl with severe mental disorder (like you) are allowed to vote...

it delegitimizes the entire process

 

[Magooglie]

you know you can tske meds for schizophrenia, right?

Are you telling me this from personal experience? I mean, I'm not the guy who claims to "maybe" be from the US. That's all you clown shoes. Also, what is "tske," is that what you do with your meds?

its not a good look when ppl with severe mental disorder (like you) are allowed to vote...

it delegitimizes the entire process

Your country must be terrible then.

 

[bobgeese]

First, Smith is a heavy hitter in terms of analysis. But second, I'm not quoting Smith and asking you to just agree with his opinion because of his lofty position ("who do you think you are presuming to suggest that the mayor of Del Rio might be wrong?!!?!"). I'm linking to analysis of an actual bill that actually passed.

That's nice Jack, but back in the real world progressives are furious with him, his own party is criticizing him, and there is a humanitarian crisis on the border.

 

[weed]

As a child, with my naïve vision of humanity, I too thought everyone should have a voice. Now as an adult, daily I observe unfathomable stupidity on display from both parties, young and old, from the whitest people to those dark as night.

I'm reminded that we are apes flying around on a rock competing over limited resources, and many people are barely more intelligent than their knuckle dragging ancestors. As such, we should probably disregard the voices of those who have no idea what they're talking about.

agreed haha, but I'm trying to not let his shit bring me down as much - so I don't particularly invest all of my time with politics. it's unhealthy in the end. as much as the world before us seemingly is heading for the worst, there are still plenty of things in life that eliminate such a notion from time to time. it's weird.

bob, you sound like the 'me', just a few months ago. not saying I've found peace, but don't dwell in the negatives for too long. it never made me feel good. I wouldn't want anyone for that matter, to be feeling that way either.

I actually think it would exacerbate voter fraud accusations as the overlap between people who can't pass a voting test and people who strongly believe in voter fraud is probably high.

yeah I thought about that after I made my post. so many new cans of worms would open as a result. obviously, I haven't given this the thought it deserves.

 

[Jack V Savage]

That's nice Jack, but back in the real world progressives are furious with him, his own party is criticizing him, and there is a humanitarian crisis on the border.

Well, his approval rating is very high. So if progressives and Democrats don't like him, who does? Maybe conservatives? I would encourage you to consider the possibility that your premise is false. And if you want to seriously understand why people think he's doing so well, you shouldn't be scared to read analysis of his concrete actions.

 

[grimballer]

Yes they do. Do you not understand how a Westminsterian system works?

And the U.S. has been a democracy for about a century in my book. To describe pre-20th century America as one is laughable. Proto-democracy? Sure. Actual one? Nope. The point is governance has advanced in the last 3 centuries. The U.S. should take advantage of those advances.

who had more votes in last canadian elections?

dont try deflecting now.

also theres no reason for us to change its system in order to satisfy some new age hipster view on "democracy"

us has a good balance between proportional representation and individual states having a say in the process

 

[grimballer]

Are you telling me this from personal experience? I mean, I'm not the guy who claims to "maybe" be from the US. That's all you clown shoes. Also, what is "tske," is that what you do with your meds?

just looking out for ppl with obvious mental issues....

youre welcome!

Your country must be terrible then.

maybe its your country too