Should Gus move to heavyweight?

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by ermac88, Sep 23, 2013.

  1. ermac88

    ermac88 Red Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2010
    Messages:
    8,831
    Likes Received:
    2,842
    After a narrow defeat and firmly establishing himself as the number #2 LHW

    Should Gus move to HW and fight opponents "more his size" as we often hear on Sherdog?

    How would he do against JDS and Cain?
     
  2. countswagula

    countswagula Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2012
    Messages:
    15,361
    Likes Received:
    2,199
    Is he having a hard time making 205? No? Then no.
     
  3. Charlie Sheen

    Charlie Sheen Invisible Belt

    Joined:
    May 23, 2013
    Messages:
    8,486
    Likes Received:
    9
    Location:
    Limbo
    No, what's the point?
    He just lost a controversial decision against a fighter who a lot of people (including me) thought was invincible.
    Besides that, JDS would KO him.
     
  4. heavyarms21

    heavyarms21 Ryozanpaku Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2008
    Messages:
    73,659
    Likes Received:
    26,885
    He actually looks like he has a bigger frame than Jones who knows , maybe in 3-4 years should he choose to fill out he might make some noise , I mean I assume he walks around at 220-225 anyways.
     
  5. Sole

    Sole Sole Calibur

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2013
    Messages:
    7,256
    Likes Received:
    112,359
    Location:
    The Stage of History
    He'd be a better Stipe IMO
     
  6. JoseAldoKillaBe

    JoseAldoKillaBe Black Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2011
    Messages:
    6,766
    Likes Received:
    9
    Maybe in the future, not now..

    Gus vs JDS would be awesome.
     
  7. Oy

    Oy Bring back Edith!

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2010
    Messages:
    2,971
    Likes Received:
    1,128
    He's got the frame and skill to do well. But much like Bones he'd win some and lose some.
     
  8. Mike Oak

    Mike Oak Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2011
    Messages:
    826
    Likes Received:
    0
    He's not serious guys.. He's just making a point of how ridiculous the argument that jones should have to move up to hw is
     
  9. Frank23

    Frank23 Enter Sandman Belt Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2010
    Messages:
    38,598
    Likes Received:
    71,024
    Hell no.
     
  10. Billthebutcher2

    Billthebutcher2 Green Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2013
    Messages:
    1,033
    Likes Received:
    202
    this
     
  11. jn677**

    jn677** Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2013
    Messages:
    449
    Likes Received:
    0
    I don't gus and jones are too big for LHW. I think a lot of guys who could be fighting at middle weight fight at LHW because of anderson silva.

    Now you see machida dropping down and maybe rashad and other smaller LHW's will follow now that anderson isnt champ(and even if he become champ again now he looks beatable)
     
  12. Hans Gercmiov

    Hans Gercmiov Steel Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2010
    Messages:
    33,473
    Likes Received:
    47,739
    Location:
    Texas
    No I think he's definitely a future 205 champ. Don't try to pull a Brandon Vera.
     
  13. EmeliankoFan1

    EmeliankoFan1 Red Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2012
    Messages:
    8,001
    Likes Received:
    206
    Yes all those LHW's are fighting at LHW because of Anderson Silva, how did we not know that.

    Who thought Shogun and Rashads decision to fight at LHW was really about Silva.
     
  14. Beast God

    Beast God Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2013
    Messages:
    343
    Likes Received:
    0
    No, why should he? He'll be dominant at lhw
     
  15. MuayThaiBX

    MuayThaiBX Black Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2011
    Messages:
    5,340
    Likes Received:
    1,490
    I don't think he has the power to hurt many heavyweights but he sure could outpoint a lot of them with his speed. He'd do pretty well until he ran into the top 6 or 8 guys. He's better suited to 205 because he still has a speed advantage and also doesn't have the power disadvantage he'd have at HW.

    I don't think Jones would do much better at HW. Lower end of the top 10 for now (at least until he really bulked up and acclimated himself to that weight). JBJ is used to being the much stronger fighter (in addition to longer). I don't think he'd hold up against guys much stronger than him.
     
  16. Djpremixed

    Djpremixed Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2012
    Messages:
    688
    Likes Received:
    8
    Location:
    Right behind you!
    Why in the world would he do that. He just barely missed winning the LHW belt and knocking the LHW GOAT off of his throne.
     
  17. s karlyle

    s karlyle الجسر

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    3,756
    Likes Received:
    474
    Location:
    The West Coast
    I see what your doing here.....
     
  18. tdluxon

    tdluxon Red Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2009
    Messages:
    7,765
    Likes Received:
    4,600
    Exactly. I'm so over people saying that it is unfair for Jones, or Gustaffson or whatever tall/lanky fighter to be in a certain weight class and they need to move up and "fight guys there own size". Total BS, if you make weight then you are in the right weight class.

    Why should they have to go up and fight guys that are their same height but thicker/more muscular for it to be "fair"?
     
  19. bambaladam

    bambaladam Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2010
    Messages:
    939
    Likes Received:
    0
    If you can make weight for a weight class, you get to fight in it. If you want to fight in a higher weight class, that's your business. If you're not the guy fighting for a living stfu about what people "ought" to do.

    On the question of how would he do I think he'd do well, and beat a lot of the best HW fighters. JDS is hard to call, as is Cain. But most of the top ten are just souls waiting to be claimed by him as far as I'm concerned. Werdum, Nog, Mir, Barnett won't be able to lay hands on him to drag him down (too slow). Overeem would die of cardiac arrest after 2 rounds of being circled. Terrible matchup for Nelson (Stipe II).

    Stipe and Browne are the lowest-ranked HW I think could cause him trouble. Maybe Barry could hurt him bad with leg kicks if he managed to tag him.

    But there's no need for him to move up, he has better competition at LHW essentially and can make the weight. And he's basically God etc.
     
  20. tdluxon

    tdluxon Red Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2009
    Messages:
    7,765
    Likes Received:
    4,600
    Brandon Vera kinda did the opposite... He was doing well at HW then struggled when he dropped to LHW
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.