Should entry level UFC fighters get the same as entry level NBA players

[EndlessCritic]

MMA is very dangerous compared to basketball.

I think the average UFC fighter makes $25 000 / $25 000 for a rookie contract.

NBA is $898 000 per season for 2000 / 2021 for a rookie contract.

that’s nuts !!!

you could get killed in the Octogon for the price of a base level Toyota Camry ?!

Why are you comparing them to NBA players who play a full season?

Shouldn't the better comparator be G league players who get called up?

https://nbacallups.com/2020/04/20/how-much-do-g-league-players-get-paid/

Switching to the G League, the last confirmed base salary (2018/19 season) was $7,000 per month. Or $35,000, for a 5-month season. This was after an increase on the previous contracts which ranged between $19,000 and $26,000. The NBA pay G League salaries.

Two-way players get paid more money, as they’re available to split their time between the G League and the NBA (up to 45 days). Players on such contracts earn $77,250 prorated for time spent on their G League roster.

For time in the NBA, players are paid the rookie minimum salary ($898,310). Again, prorated for days they’re called up for. The maximum potential earnings for two-way players is $385,000. The salaries of these players do not count towards the NBA salary cap.

 

[arcadeperfect]

The barrier to entry to become a pro fighter is much much much lower than to become a pro athlete in typical ball and stick sports. To be in the NBA it requires you to be a top player in a college, and before that you needed to be a top player in high school. To enter the UFC you can enter with less than 10 fights/wins.

 

[johnnybeebob]

Why are you comparing them to NBA players who play a full season?

Shouldn't the better comparator be G league players who get called up?

https://nbacallups.com/2020/04/20/how-much-do-g-league-players-get-paid/

Switching to the G League, the last confirmed base salary (2018/19 season) was $7,000 per month. Or $35,000, for a 5-month season. This was after an increase on the previous contracts which ranged between $19,000 and $26,000. The NBA pay G League salaries.

Two-way players get paid more money, as they’re available to split their time between the G League and the NBA (up to 45 days). Players on such contracts earn $77,250 prorated for time spent on their G League roster.

For time in the NBA, players are paid the rookie minimum salary ($898,310). Again, prorated for days they’re called up for. The maximum potential earnings for two-way players is $385,000. The salaries of these players do not count towards the NBA salary cap.

Why compare them to G league.
isn’t the UFC “as real as it gets” ?

 

[kingghidrah]

I mean we could pay them like boxing with a few hundred bucks.

If you're in the UFC you are far, far above where those guys are in boxing.

The guys who make a couple hundred bucks in boxing just want to be on TV. They're not even close to Bellator level in the boxing world.

So that's a fake comparison. If you're in the UFC you're among the elite* already.

(*yeah i know, cue up the CM Punk gif)

 

[BForrester]

Basketball is more profitable, as a sport, than MMA. Average attendance is 17k per game, and that's for 41 home games per season.

The average annual revenue, per franchise, in 2019 was $292m, and that's for teams with 11 players. Revenue, league-wide, was over $8b.

 

[kflo]

If you're in the UFC you are far, far above where those guys are in boxing.

The guys who make a couple hundred bucks in boxing just want to be on TV. They're not even close to Bellator level in the boxing world.

So that's a fake comparison. If you're in the UFC you're among the elite* already.

(*yeah i know, cue up the CM Punk gif)

Most of the guys who sign for their first fights in the org are pretty replaceable with lots of other guys in other orgs making less. You aren’t simply “elite” just by making it to the ufc. That comes when you prove yourself IN the org. Until then you are very replaceable. Not that they aren’t good fighters.

Boxers do need to build their individual brand before they start getting decent money. Some are able to do it through their amateur career. Many need to grind away on the boxing circuit on their way up.

 

[JKS]

LOL, that's even remotely possible numbers wise. And certainly not worth to pay entry level fighters. Top guys don't even get that.

 

[JKS]

Basketball is more profitable, as a sport, than MMA. Average attendance is 17k per game, and that's for 41 home games per season.

The average annual revenue, per franchise, in 2019 was $292m, and that's for teams with 11 players.

UFC revenue for the last entire year was 980million. But we don't know what is more profitable until you get down to the numbers after expenses.

 

[BForrester]

UFC revenue for the last entire year was 980million. But we don't know what is more profitable until you get down to the numbers after expenses.

If you want to compare the NBA as a whole to UFC, their 2019-20 revenue was over $8b. Last count, UFC had 724 fighers on the roster. Each NBA team has 15, times 30 teams, for a total of 450 players. Combined with the fact that the NBA is unionized, has one of the strongest players' unions in sports, and splits revenue nearly 50/50...

There's a much bigger pie being split more equitably among fewer players in the NBA than UFC.

 

[BEATDOWNS]

MMA is very dangerous compared to basketball.

I think the average UFC fighter makes $25 000 / $25 000 for a rookie contract.

NBA is $898 000 per season for 2000 / 2021 for a rookie contract.

that’s nuts !!!

you could get killed in the Octogon for the price of a base level Toyota Camry ?!

They play 72 games a season fighters fight 2-3 times a year so that would be a No.

 

[EYEKICKFACES]

Well your ufc numbers are wrong so I also don't trust you basketball numbers.

But pay is skill and demand based. NBA players need to train their whole lives to get there, any idiot can sign up to punch people in the face.

/thread

Speaking of idiots. This dork apparently thinks you need some sort of intelligence to throw a ball in a hoop.

 

[Willy Knuckles]

Absolutely, NBA players should get paid much less.

Lol shut the fuck up

 

[JKS]

If you want to compare the NBA as a whole to UFC, their 2019-20 revenue was over $8b.

Which is pretty huge. They can afford to pay out big bucks. But looking per team with respect of revenues vs how many players, they can afford to pay much more to their talent. The NBAs revenue to how many players is just so much bigger than the UFC.

 

[BForrester]

Which is pretty huge. They can afford to pay out big bucks. But looking per team with respect of revenues vs how many players, they can afford to pay much more to their talent. The NBAs revenue to how many players is just so much bigger than the UFC.

100%. They're splitting a bigger pie, more equitably (near 50/50 revenue split between owners and players), among fewer stakeholders than UFC.

The most well-compensated fighters won't even approach mid-level NBA players, in annual salary. The mid-level exception for NBA players is over $8m.

 

[Yep]

People who work the 3rd shift at convenient stores should make more than nba players.

 

[DirtyBadger]

That NBA player gets that money for 82 contests. The UFC fighter gets that money per contest (25/25 seems high). Seems the NBA ownership is comprised of a bunch of cheap pricks that could learn a little bit about respecting their athletes from DFW.

 

[thobra]

It is about the same. The basketball players you mention earn about 10-15.000 pr match. It is also a much bigger, more popular sport with more money, and where it is much tougher to get into the nba.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Which entry level boxers are you talking about?

There are boxers (eg Amir Khan and Audley Harrison) who got bigger paydays than most UFC champs do early in their careers when they were prospects because they were famous from competing in the Olympics. No such thing has ever or will ever happen in the UFC.

The boxers making a couple hundred per fight are no names who are fighting in untelevised fights. It's no different in MMA.

James Toney, Brock Lesnar and CM Punk weren't Olympians, but were examples of people getting big paydays straightaway due to reputations outside MMA, so that's not strictly true.

 

[Mangar]

Lol shut the fuck up

Triggered by the truth ?

 

[PrideUltimate]

MMA is very dangerous compared to basketball.

I think the average UFC fighter makes $25 000 / $25 000 for a rookie contract.

NBA is $898 000 per season for 2000 / 2021 for a rookie contract.

that’s nuts !!!

you could get killed in the Octogon for the price of a base level Toyota Camry ?!

Do you understand how business works?
There's a lot more money involved in NBA, that's why NBA players get bigger salary.
MMA is more dangerous has nothing to do with the salary. Salary is about how much money they can generate to the company. Actually entry level NBA players can generate money. Usually undercard fighters don't generate much. Should they get paid same? Maybe even more, but where's that money coming? Now Tell me.