Should Ben Johnson be given his Olympic gold medal back?

[Takes Two To Tango]

Now that we all know most the sprinters in that 1988 100 meter race tested positive for PEDS.

I think Ben Johnson was a scapegoat, they targeted him from the get go.

And the Canadian officials just let him out to dry.

It was pathetic the treatment of Ben by everyone at the time.

Watch this interview with Ben Johnson is fascinating.

The Canadians should have challenged the evidence against Johnson. But they just went with it, without scrutinizing it.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

No, if they were all juicing then just don't give any of them the medal.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

No, if they were all juicing then just don't give any of them the medal.

Fair enough.

 

[wlu.29]

Ben Johnson > Carl Lewis

 

[Madmick]

Ben Johnson > Carl Lewis

LOL, no, but he beat him in the 100m sprint on that day.

 

[LEWIS540]

LOL, no.

 

[Sir Elzio Dennick]

I felt sorry for Ben Johnson, obviously he was just one of a ton who were dirty back then. BUT.....you can't be taking a gold medal away from Lewis either. So......no.....he can't be awarded that metal now, just have to go with it as wrong as it was.

Just think that island of just 3 mill has given the sprint world.

Born in Jamaica 100m

lane

1.Ben Johnson 1988 Olympic gold for Canada
2.Khishane Thompson 2024 Olympic silver
3.Asafa Powell king of the sub 10,00
4.Usain ;THE GOAT" Bolt
5.Donovan Bailey 1996 Olympic gold for Canada
6.Linford Christie 1992 Olympic gold for GB
7.Herb McKenley Olympic silver******
8.Yohan Blake World Champion

******* still the only sprinter to make the Olympic 100, 200, 400 final

B

lane

1.Ray Stewart number one ranked in the world.
2.Nesta Carter 9.8
3.Don Quarrie Olympic silver
4.Steve Mullings 9.8
5.Lennox Miler Olympic silver..ran anchor on that USC world record team with O.J and gang.
6.Akeem Blake 9.8
7 & 8.....a whole gang of sub 10.00 guys

I bet everyone in Jamaica is related to a sprinter at some level.

The year was 1952 the Jamaicans would totally destroy the then 4x4 world record in winning the Olympic gold, this is where it all started for that island.

The other sprinting Ben Johnson

Benjamin Washington Johnson (1914–1992) was an American sprinter who was considered a serious rival to Olympic gold medalist Jesse Owens. Known as the "Columbia Comet", Johnson was the United States champion at 100 yards in 1938, but injuries and the outbreak of the Second World War denied him a chance to compete in the Olympics.

In later life he became one of the first African-Americans to attain the rank of colonel in the United States Army.

1951 world ranking 400m




1....................George Rhoden (Jamaica)
2.....................Herb McKenley (Jamaica)
3...........................Arthur Wint (Jamaica)
4................................. Mal Whitfield (US)
5................................Charlie Moore (US)
6.................................Dick Maiocco (US)
7..............Hans Geister (West Germany)
8............Schalk Booysen (South Africa)
9...Karl-Friedrich Haas (West Germany)
10...............................John Bradley (US)

 

[Madmick]

BUT.....you can't be taking a gold medal away from Lewis either.

Why the hell not?

U.S. athletes competed in Olympics despite positive drug tests: report​

Olympic gold medallist Carl Lewis is one of over 100 athletes who had a positive drug test covered up by the United States Olympic Committee, according to a published report in the Orange County Register...

Dr. Wade Exum, the former USOC director for drug control from 1991 to 2000, released more than 30,000 pages of documents to the newspaper and Sports Illustrated which show that several U.S. athletes were allowed to compete despite testing positive for drugs.

The documents reveal more than 100 cases in which athletes failed tests that would have disqualified them at the Olympics but were reinstated after U.S. officials decided the drug use was "inadvertent." Those athletes combined to win a total of 19 Olympic medals between 1988 and 2000.

According to Exum, Lewis, who won nine Olympic gold medals in his career, tested positive three times for small amounts of banned stimulants found in cold medications at the 1988 Olympic trials. The USOC first disqualified him, but later reinstated him after accepting his appeal.

Lewis went on to win gold at Seoul in the long jump -- and in the 100 metres after Canadian Ben Johnson was disqualified for using steroids.

 

[HOLA]

Ben was still probably on less steroids than Flo Jo was.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Ben was still probably on less steroids than Flo Jo was.

Ronnie Coleman was probably on less steroids than her lol

 

[Sir Elzio Dennick]

Why the hell not?

U.S. athletes competed in Olympics despite positive drug tests: report​

So Lewis gives all the medals he ever won back? Ya can't just do the 100 or just 1988, when did he get into PEDS? So give everything he ever won back? Really?

 

[HOLA]

Ben’s start was cool as fuck though, wasn’t it? Nobody else uses that technique, at least that I’ve seen.

Although iirc Kim Collins had the fastest first 10M ever in the 2003 world championship.

 

[Madmick]

So Lewis gives all the medals he ever won back? Ya can't just do the 100 or just 1988, when did he get into PEDS? So give everything he ever won back? Really?

I didn't say every race. I pointed to that one. Lewis was dirty, too. Our track program in the late 80's was dirty as fuck. The entire world, especially the most competitive track athletes from developed nations, are dirty as hell, even up to today. Ben Johnson was just a Patsy. If we're gonna put him on the cross, then the others like Lewis should join him.

 

[FyrFytr998]

Now that we all know most the sprinters in that 1988 100 meter race tested positive for PEDS.

I think Ben Johnson was a scapegoat, they targeted him from the get go.

And the Canadian officials just let him out to dry.

It was pathetic the treatment of Ben by everyone at the time.

Watch this interview with Ben Johnson is fascinating.

The Canadians should have challenged the evidence against Johnson. But they just went with it, without scrutinizing it.

No….gather them all up now and make them rerun the race in their old age, lol. First one to the line without a pulled hammy wins, .

 

[Sir Elzio Dennick]

I didn't say every race. I pointed to that one. Lewis was dirty, too. Our track program in the late 80's was dirty as fuck. The entire world, especially the most competitive track athletes from developed nations, are dirty as hell, even up to today. Ben Johnson was just a Patsy. If we're gonna put him on the cross, then the others like Lewis should join him.

I totally agree, and said that.

BUT.....when did Lewis first win because of PED's? And if we give back the 100m medal how about his other 1988 medals, they all have to go. Was he dirty in 1984?

YES the whole thing was wrong but trying to fix it now......nay~~~~

And....I don't buy everything I read either.

Hell,once had a house fire, I had it out before the fire department showed up, what did the local paper write......the fire department puts out fire at........no they didn't.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

I didn't say every race. I pointed to that one. Lewis was dirty, too. Our track program in the late 80's was dirty as fuck. The entire world, especially the most competitive track athletes from developed nations, are dirty as hell, even up to today. Ben Johnson was just a Patsy. If we're gonna put him on the cross, then the others like Lewis should join him.

Well said man.