Shogun is possible LHW Goat you noobs

[JustOnce]

Shogun before his knees were shot is as good as it gets at LHW, and arguably the best LHW in the history of MMA. If you use dick pills, you are out of the discussion.

Yeah yeah yeah, he competed in PRIDE, so what? It doesn't make him a cheater nor did he ever pop ever.

Shogun was a special fighter. I see Shertards shitting on the great fighter, and it is what it is but, I mean, typical, but, it's so stupid.

You might bring up DC, but for one, DC spend a lot of portion of his career at heavyweight who fucking fought at 250+. I mean no one knew, Cormier included, if he could cut weight to LHW in the first place due to his kidney and all. Also, Shogun in his prime was a special fighter in his own right and Shogun isn't really Anderson when it comes to grappling either.

Shogun solved the Machida puzzle when he was looking untouchable. His decline is in a way a sad one, and not too different from some of the sad declines that we've seen with some of the legends, but Shogun in his prime with healthy knees > Cormier who can't defend body kicks and can't pass Anderson's guard.

War Shogun!

 

[Dog Gynecologist]

Shogun is my favorite fighter ever but he got absolutely mauled by the LHW Goat.
When you are outmatched at that point, i think it's not a matter of dickpills anymore

 

[13Seconds]

Shogun was a beast but i feel like Hendo hurt his legacy in terms of greatness

 

[prikoke]

Shogun is my favorite fighter ever but he got absolutely mauled by the LHW Goat.
When you are outmatched at that point, i think it's not a matter of dickpills anymore

I also think Jones is much better than Shogun but to be fair Shogun was not in his prime at that stage, despite holding the belt.

 

[HHJ]

Jones should be disqualified for being a cheat,I agree. I rather 1 shogun then 10 jon joneses,but then you rank him above Khabib in the wrestling thread. This. Is. Despicable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[HHJ]

Shogun was a beast but i feel like Hendo hurt his legacy in terms of greatness

Yes...maybe those 2 fights did the most damage. Hendo was from his era after all,and is older as well.
Shogun had spurts of brilliance,but the injuries and also clear mistakes in fights,cost him big

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Shogun is my favourite fighter of all time probably, but he doesn't beat prime Rumble in his wildest dreams.

 

[jk7707]

Sorry bud. But there's a second half to his career. And that counts.

 

[HHJ]

also it should be noted that just because you took a hit,does not mean you "cant defend kicks" nor did DC even want to pass the old man's guard. He was clearly taking it easy on this fossil.

 

[HHJ]

Shogun is my favourite fighter of all time probably, but he doesn't beat prime Rumble in his wildest dreams.

I could see Shogun at his best,easily beating rumble. What? he couldnt do what Josh Koschek and Vitor Belfort did before him?

 

[TIMELESS TRUTH]

Ninja Rua was badass too.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

I could see Shogun at his best,easily beating rumble.

I don't think so personally, I don't see him getting Rumble down and if he trades with him on the feet he's in trouble, even with his ATG level chin.

 

[HHJ]

I don't think so personally, I don't see him getting Rumble down and if he trades with him on the feet he's in trouble, even with his ATG level chin.

He got overeem down. He could do it.
Wandy got hunt down. Trips baby!

 

[Hellowhosthat]

He got overeem down. He could do it.
Wandy got hunt down. Trips baby!

Rumble was a good wrestler though. I'm maybe overthinking Ryan Bader's desperate shots on him.

 

[HHJ]

Rumble was a good wrestler though. I'm maybe overthinking Ryan Bader's desperate shots on him.

Bader was scared,so he shot from 2 blocks away. DC,Kos,and others weathered the storm,and he was a sitting duck after.

 

[TheMessiah]

Even Chuck Lidell is better

 

[Moro]

I could see Shogun at his best,easily beating rumble. What? he couldnt do what Josh Koschek and Vitor Belfort did before him?

Preach brother

 

[HHJ]

Even Chuck Lidell is better

Same result,if they had fought yrs earlier.
Chuck had big troubles with guys who were faster than him,and Shogun was one of the fastest LHW in his prime

 

[pick999]

That makes Jon the megagoat

 

[HHJ]

That makes Jon the megagoat

Heavily roided*