SHFT/PWD 245: RATINGS...The Thread

[deezy]

So the guy posting arguments with everybody isn't the one being a child? L O fucking L.

Used Strawmen a few times, someone learned a new word.

 

[LuchaBear]

I'd like to see them put the belt back on Lesnar, and build Barrett back up as a legitimate bare knuckle champion. Have Barrett tell the 'WWE universe' he has bad news for them, and put him over Lesnar in a stiff brawl.

No.....

Lesnar vs Big Show 65
Lesnar vs Kane 85


That is all you get... Maybe just maybe you'll be lucky to see Lesnar/Cena 6

 

[Frank23]

Nash is 100% right(as usual) but the skew comes from society not wanting more likable villains but more flawed heroes imo. Die Hard was the precursor to Heat on this subject. John McClane is a long way off from what a traditional hero is and Hans is one of the most entertaining villains in cinema history but at the end you still want Bruce Willis to go over.

Cool heels are not the answer, badass babyfaces are.

I like cop heels.

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[LuchaBear]

We all know Lesnar's next opponent after Taker is gonna be Demon Kane...


Big muscles = ratings... Struggle says so

 

[Frank23]

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[LuchaBear]

So the guy posting arguments with everybody isn't the one being a child? L O fucking L.

Used Strawmen a few times, someone learned a new word.

No point of being in this argument when all you have is "jokes" and "parody's"
It's like talking to a kid... No point goodbye

 

[RollSonnenRoll]

I like cop heels.

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I love how Daniel Craig has given Bond an edge. He still has all the swagger of a Connery but at the end of the day he's a pretty miserable bastard who's cold hearted as he is suave. You both empathize with him while wanting to be him. That's a modern babyface.

 

[Frank23]

Daniel Craig is a great Bond.

 

[Elysianwing]

Nash is 100% right(as usual) but the skew comes from society not wanting more likable villains but more flawed heroes imo. Die Hard was the precursor to Heat on this subject. John McClane is a long way off from what a traditional hero is and Hans is one of the most entertaining villains in cinema history but at the end you still want Bruce Willis to go over.

Cool heels are not the answer, badass babyfaces are.

I think the real answer is in the middle, as are most moral compasses. There isn't anything wrong with having both, and despite how desperately the WWE wishes the crowd would always cheer faces and boo heels, there really isn't anything wrong with heels getting cheered either.

 

[LuchaBear]

Coming from a guy who double/triple posts inane ramblings at people who don't talk to him......irony, do you even?

Because you can't grasp parody or even simple sarcasm and hyperbole.

Tell me more about how PWG "selling out" at 200 tickets means they are doing better, or how 100 thousand people watching Lucha Underground is better, or never wondering why these little engines that could, haven't taken their show on the road and actually made money.

Make sense? How about these shit shows make dollars for once.

If I was to ever bring up ROH/PWG/Lucha into this argument then you could make a point but I didn't.... So that does make you a straw man.

You really need to stop trying to compare the WWE to Indy companies that nobody has ever heard of, it's not doing anything for your argument. I'm not bringing them up so you shouldn't. It's just a shitty tactic you're using in trying to justify the current WWE product.

If you can't admit that the current WWE product is bad... Then you must be a child as well.

 

[deezy]

No point of being in this argument when all you have is "jokes" and "parody's"
It's like talking to a kid... No point goodbye

Posting smileys like a retarded 13 year old and I'm the kid. Again L O fucking L.

Pretty obvious you ignore points made and dwell on misconceptions and take shit way out of context to fit your bullshit narrative.

Now I get why others handle you with kid gloves.

 

[LuchaBear]

Posting smileys like a retarded 13 year old and I'm the kid. Again L O fucking L.

Pretty obvious you ignore points made and dwell on misconceptions and take shit way out of context to fit your bullshit narrative.

Now I get why others handle you with kid gloves.

Can you not lie?? Is that possible?

Which "Points" have I ignored? Your "jokes" and "parody's?".... Like WTF, can you make any sense? You have not been able to counter my points at all, not once and you admitted that your arguments were just "jokes and parody's" so what is your point again?

Obviously you don't seem to have one

 

[RollSonnenRoll]

Daniel Craig is a great Bond.

He does a great job. The word association scene is Skyfall was so brillant when the therapist says "murder" and Bond with a half hearted grin says "employment". I had never really thought of it like that. He added a whole new dynamic to the character in one word and expression.

I think the real answer is in the middle, as are most moral compasses. There isn't anything wrong with having both, and despite how desperately the WWE wishes the crowd would always cheer faces and boo heels, there really isn't anything wrong with heels getting cheered either.

Not at all. I'd love to have more complexities like this rather than just the heel runs away, the face fights the good fight and kiss asses the crowd after the heel cheaply insults them

 

[deezy]

If I was to ever bring up ROH/PWG/Lucha into this argument then you could make a point but I didn't.... So that does make you a straw man.

You really need to stop trying to compare the WWE to Indy companies that nobody has ever heard of, it's not doing anything for your argument. I'm not bringing them up so you shouldn't. It's just a shitty tactic you're using in trying to justify the current WWE product.

If you can't admit that the current WWE product is bad... Then you must be a child as well.

Strawmen again.

Really like dropping lines you just learned.

Typical wannabe intellectual. If something is still successful and the guy running it is back to being a billionaire after losing 300 million two years ago, then the ratings don't mean jack shit, their company isn't solely for television you meathead. It's always been the travelling circus.

 

[Elysianwing]

Not at all. I'd love to have more complexities like this rather than just the heel runs away, the face fights the good fight and kiss asses the crowd after the heel cheaply insults them

Yes. This would be ideal.

 

[Frank23]

:icon_lol:

 

[deezy]

Can you not lie?? Is that possible?

Which "Points" have I ignored? Your "jokes" and "parody's?".... Like WTF, can you make any sense? You have not been able to counter my points at all, not once and you admitted that your arguments were just "jokes and parody's" so what is your point again?

Obviously you don't seem to have one

Typically ignoring everything while saying nothing but insults and acting like you haven't been Ether'd multiple times in this very thread.

What's your next move? Claiming that you're being bullied or everyone's obsessed with you?

You know, the same tactics used by fundamentalists when others question their logic.

 

[LuchaBear]

Strawmen again.

Really like dropping lines you just learned.

Typical wannabe intellectual. If something is still successful and the guy running it is back to being a billionaire after losing 300 million two years ago, then the ratings don't mean jack shit, their company isn't solely for television you meathead. It's always been the travelling circus.

Ok so your point is the ratings don't mean shit... Well if you opened your eyes, you would understand that they do mean shit.

The WWE gets a major source of their revenue from the U.S.A network(Plus TV ads)... So what do you think will happen the next time they will be renegotiating their next contract?

USA Network: Uhhh the ratings are have been record low for a while now...

Vince: Ratings don't mean shit!

USA: Well then... Goodbye Vince

Next day... WWE stocks go's down the drain(And yes they would)


So ratings don't mean shit hey? What a "Meathead" argument coming from you

 

[LuchaBear]

Typically ignoring everything while saying nothing but insults and acting like you haven't been Ether'd multiple times in this very thread.

What's your next move? Claiming that you're being bullied or everyone's obsessed with you?

You know, the same tactics used by fundamentalists when others question their logic.

All you have been doing is the exact same thing your saying that I am... Which is ignoring everything well saying nothing but insults..


WTF am I arguing with? Either you're trolling or straight stupid.

 

[deezy]

Ok so your point is the ratings don't mean shit... Well if you opened your eyes, you would understand that they do mean shit.

The WWE gets a major source of their revenue from the U.S.A network(Plus TV ads)... So what do you think will happen the next time they will be renegotiating their next contract?

USA Network: Uhhh the ratings are have been record low for a while now...

Vince: Ratings don't mean shit!

USA: Well then... Goodbye Vince

Next day... WWE stocks go's down the drain(And yes they would)


So ratings don't mean shit hey? What a "Meathead" argument coming from you

Network has subscription numbers that make them money. Obvious mini Meltzer doesn't know business.

Act like USA doesn't want Smackdown on it as well. Because even with their "record low" still the most viewed product on that station.