Sherdog POTWR: Round 4: The General Election

[Lead]

He didn't want to be tagged. He is a grumpy old man that yells at clouds. We should still count his vote no matter how irritable he is. Thought that is what you were saying.

We aren't negotiating. As a sign of good faith I agreed not to mention the other issues if you truly restore his vote.

I was being a stand up / nice guy.

You are looking at the situation for a short term means (a vote for palis). I'm looking at it from the state of how it should be any year we have this and I'm aware of the reasoning for either option. I need to think about it. I don't pity what happened at all. He dug himself into this. You are just capitalizing on it which I can't fault you for

 

[AgedFlatus]

You are looking at the situation for a short term means (a vote for palis). I'm looking at it from the state of how it should be any year we have this and I'm aware of the reasoning for either option. I need to think about it. I don't pity what happened at all. He dug himself into this. You are just capitalizing on it which I can't fault you for

Oh just do it already.


and vote palis

 

[Hans Gruber]

You are looking at the situation for a short term means (a vote for palis). I'm looking at it from the state of how it should be any year we have this and I'm aware of the reasoning for either option. I need to think about it. I don't pity what happened at all. He dug himself into this. You are just capitalizing on it which I can't fault you for

What you can do to solve situations like this is remove the @ symbol from in front of certain peoples names.

Some people want to vote but don't want contacted in every spam post.

AgedFlatus was clearly one of these people. You could even add him back now without the @ (even though people aren't spamming every 2 seconds like in the early rounds)

He won't get tagged in a copy and paste this way

 

[IBeLurkin]

What you can do to solve situations like this is remove the @ symbol from in front of certain peoples names.

Some people want to vote but don't want contacted in every spam post.

AgedFlatus was clearly one of these people. You could even add him back now without the @ (even though people aren't spamming every 2 seconds like in the early rounds)

He won't get tagged in a copy and paste this way

OR, you know...we stop acting like getting tagged in a post is some huge inconvenience.

How about people stop being such whiny little bitches?

So sorry we tried to include you in something on a message board you signed up for and then commented on.

Jesus christ, quit being such pussies...

 

[AgedFlatus]

OR, you know...we stop acting like getting tagged in a post is some huge inconvenience.

How about people stop being such whiny little bitches?

So sorry we tried to include you in something on a message board you signed up for and then commented on.

Jesus christ, quit being such pussies...

Hey, fucknugget, this shit wasn't on the forum when I signed up for it. Would you enjoy a dick in the ass if your workplace instilled an inner office homogram service as part of restructuring? No, you didn't sign up for that. Not for that!!!!

Vote palis

 

[Hans Gruber]

OR, you know...we stop acting like getting tagged in a post is some huge inconvenience.

How about people stop being such whiny little bitches?

So sorry we tried to include you in something on a message board you signed up for and then commented on.

Jesus christ, quit being such pussies...

Illegal IBeJurkin is an expert on whiny little bitches

 

[Gandhi]

GNN Exclusive Update!!!!

JDragon pulls ahead by a razor thin margin while Palis shows greater "cross appeal" to likely cans!!!!!

Jdragon is leading by one vote amoung legal voters, 59 to 58, while 53 votes remain eligable to be cast!!!!

The Dragon

44 of the dragons vote has come from voters who chose a non deplorable candidate in the previouse round.

13 have come from new voters.

2 have come from voters that were in one deporable camp or the other in the last round. @Anung Un Rama voted for Muster X but opted for @JDragon in a move, that perhaps did not surprise those of us that know him, but is most certainty welcome to the Dragon camp. The other switch was from @GearSolidMetal who in Cruz fashion abandoned the actual Palis camp altogether.


The Can Crusher

41 of Palis' 58 votes have come from voters that chose a deplorable in the prior round.

Palis however has picked up 7 votes from voters that chose a non deplorable candidate in the prior round. 2 of those voters were straight defections from the Dragon camp (@The Diplomat and @KBE6EKCTAH_CCP ) which had to sting a little. The remaining voter camp changes were from a combination of Bernie Bros who did not follow @HomerThompson 's lead or just straight oddballs who had run very confusing / short lived campaigns of their own (@Overpressure @Clippy). Like the internet trolls of the Alt-Right, it seems like they are just in it for the "Lulz".

One ray of sunshine left for the @JDragon camp is his lead in grabbing new voters.

Of the 60 voters who did not vote last round, 13 have voted for the Dragon while only 9 have gone for Palis, almost nullifying Palis' lead in voting camp conversions.


What's Next....

Now that we have beat what has happened to a living death, lets look at what is to come...

We have 53 votes that have not yet been cast (compared to 60 last round), so we have already beat the prior round's participation rate.

13 of the current non voters took part in the last round, with 8 votes belonging to the Non Deplorable Camp while only 5 are in the Deplorable Camp. Based on the conversion rates to date, @Palis should be able to take another net vote from @JDragon, giving him 6 more votes and Dragon 7. That still leaves Dragon in the lead, 66 to 64.

The real question is what will happen with the remaining 38 voters who did not vote last round?

GNN analysis shows that 9 of those votes are Non-deplorable, 5 are deplorable, while 28 are neither / unknown. Again, combined with Dragons success on winning the new voters to date, the math favors the @JDragon , but the variability is very high, so DONT BLINK!!!!!

The Pan Factor

Much has been made by GNN of the Pan factor, a right wing moderate with a nuanced view on race, he does not fit the deplorable mode. So where have his voters gone to date?

Only one has gone to Palis (@CableandThanos ). What is notable is that 4 of the 8 non deplorable prior round voters that have yet to cast their votes in the current chose Pan (see both tables above). This includes @panamaican himself and @ehtheist (whom is def at risk to go Palis). And who the fuck is Tol anyway?

So again, the numbers look good, but not in anyway conclusive for the Dragon.

 

[Lead]

What you can do to solve situations like this is remove the @ symbol from in front of certain peoples names.

Some people want to vote but don't want contacted in every spam post.

AgedFlatus was clearly one of these people. You could even add him back now without the @ (even though people aren't spamming every 2 seconds like in the early rounds)

He won't get tagged in a copy and paste this way

I already found a solution for next year with the registry/tagging. I'm going to do the email after Round 1 so people can click "Leave Conversation". This way they are still on the registry.

That doesn't address this instance currently however. Age Flatus continually wanted to be removed from this whole thing. He was eventually removed. It's going to come down to whether a person can remove themselves from the list by request or if they are permanently locked for that election. It was locked in the sense that we couldn't add new citizens after round 1. Adding new citizens means adding more votes which changes the result of the election. Removing (technically) shouldn't have done that UNLESS said moron poster were to beg for it continuously, then get removed, then still vote after the fact. So the only options are:
1.) The registry is locked in every sense, including removals even by request of the user. Aged Flatus never should've been removed from the beginning cause he didn't have the power to remove himself from the list after Round 1.
2.) A user can only be removed by their own request. Once done, they are seen as any other user not on the registry after Round 1 and cannot request to be added.

Neither option is right/wrong but whatever is chosen is going to be done going forward so I'm trying to think of the consequences of both. Something should've never happened where a decision needed made like this which is why I'm annoyed. It didn't need to happen and he seems to not even care about what happens. It's more about what rule makes the most sense.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

 

[Hans Gruber]

I already found a solution for next year with the registry/tagging. I'm going to do the email after Round 1 so people can click "Leave Conversation". This way they are still on the registry.

That doesn't address this instance currently however. Age Flatus continually wanted to be removed from this whole thing. He was eventually removed. It's going to come down to whether a person can remove themselves from the list by request or if they are permanently locked for that election. It was locked in the sense that we couldn't add new citizens after round 1. Adding new citizens means adding more votes which changes the result of the election. Removing (technically) shouldn't have done that UNLESS said moron poster were to beg for it continuously, then get removed, then still vote after the fact. So the only options are:
1.) The registry is locked in every sense, including removals even by request of the user. Aged Flatus never should've been removed from the beginning cause he didn't have the power to remove himself from the list after Round 1.
2.) A user can only be removed by their own request. Once done, they are seen as any other user not on the registry after Round 1 and cannot request to be added.

Neither option is right/wrong but whatever is chosen is going to be done going forward so I'm trying to think of the consequences of both. Something should've never happened where a decision needed made like this which is why I'm annoyed. It didn't need to happen and he seems to not even care about what happens. It's more about what rule makes the most sense.

In his case he voted so he obviously want to vote. He just didn;t want spammed.

Seems like you came up with a good solution for the future though. (the "Leave Conversation" thing)

 

[Lead]

GNN Exclusive Update!!!!

JDragon pulls ahead by a razor thin margin while Palis shows greater "cross appeal" to likely cans!!!!!

Jdragon is leading by one vote amoung legal voters, 59 to 58, while 53 votes remain eligable to be cast!!!!

The Dragon

44 of the dragons vote has come from voters who chose a non deplorable candidate in the previouse round.

13 have come from new voters.

2 have come from voters that were in one deporable camp or the other in the last round. @Anung Un Rama voted for Muster X but opted for @JDragon in a move, that perhaps did not surprise those of us that know him, but is most certainty welcome to the Dragon camp. The other switch was from @GearSolidMetal who in Cruz fashion abandoned the actual Palis camp altogether.


The Can Crusher

41 of Palis' 58 votes have come from voters that chose a deplorable in the prior round.

Palis however has picked up 7 votes from voters that chose a non deplorable candidate in the prior round. 2 of those voters were straight defections from the Dragon camp (@The Diplomat and @KBE6EKCTAH_CCP ) which had to sting a little. The remaining voter camp changes were from a combination of Bernie Bros who did not follow @HomerThompson 's lead or just straight oddballs who had run very confusing / short lived campaigns of their own (@Overpressure @Clippy). Like the internet trolls of the Alt-Right, it seems like they are just in it for the "Lulz".

One ray of sunshine left for the @JDragon camp is his lead in grabbing new voters.

Of the 60 voters who did not vote last round, 13 have voted for the Dragon while only 9 have gone for Palis, almost nullifying Palis' lead in voting camp conversions.


What's Next....

Now that we have beat what has happened to a living death, lets look at what is to come...

We have 53 votes that have not yet been cast (compared to 60 last round), so we have already beat the prior round's participation rate.

13 of the current non voters took part in the last round, with 8 votes belonging to the Non Deplorable Camp while only 5 are in the Deplorable Camp. Based on the conversion rates to date, @Palis should be able to take another net vote from @JDragon, giving him 6 more votes and Dragon 7. That still leaves Dragon in the lead, 66 to 64.

The real question is what will happen with the remaining 38 voters who did not vote last round?

GNN analysis shows that 9 of those votes are Non-deplorable, 5 are deplorable, while 28 are neither / unknown. Again, combined with Dragons success on winning the new voters to date, the math favors the @JDragon , but the variability is very high, so DONT BLINK!!!!!

The Pan Factor

Much has been made by GNN of the Pan factor, a right wing moderate with a nuanced view on race, he does not fit the deplorable mode. So where have his voters gone to date?

Only one has gone to Palis (@CableandThanos ). What is notable is that 4 of the 5 non deplorable prior round voters that have yet to cast their votes in the current chose Pan (see both tables above). This includes @panamaican himself and @ehtheist (whom is def at risk to go Palis). And who the fuck is Tol anyway?

So again, the numbers look good, but not in anyway conclusive for the Dragon.

I see someone else did a pivot table using primary and general votes. I applaud your analysis.

 

[Gandhi]

I see someone else did a pivot table using primary and general votes. I applaud your analysis.

LOL only way to go.

Only other option is analysis of every poster on the registry to see the camp the fall in. I did that too (if you read the analysis I break up the 38 votes that way) but too many names i did not recognize....

 

[Lead]

LOL only way to go.

Only other option is analysis of every poster on the registry to see the camp the fall in. I did that too (if you read the analysis I break up the 38 votes that way) but too many names i did not recognize....

Yea, I didn't have the deplorable/non list but the good thing about the primary/general is you can easily run a formula that takes the candidates current tally + remaining voters they received in the primary who didn't vote yet+ remaining voters that align to they group (I guess similar to the camp thing you said = estimated final tally. The only thing it doesn't factor in is new voters who have not voted which I think it would be bad to try to factor in other than just looking at that list.

You came to the same conclusion I have at this point but it does swing each day.

Also, same exact though I had at one point with "Who the fuck is Tol anyway?"

EDIT: Actually my pivot doesn't have any non registry voters in it. I see what you did now.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

GNN Exclusive Update!!!!

JDragon pulls ahead by a razor thin margin while Palis shows greater "cross appeal" to likely cans!!!!!

Jdragon is leading by one vote amoung legal voters, 59 to 58, while 53 votes remain eligable to be cast!!!!

The Dragon

44 of the dragons vote has come from voters who chose a non deplorable candidate in the previouse round.

13 have come from new voters.

2 have come from voters that were in one deporable camp or the other in the last round. @Anung Un Rama voted for Muster X but opted for @JDragon in a move, that perhaps did not surprise those of us that know him, but is most certainty welcome to the Dragon camp. The other switch was from @GearSolidMetal who in Cruz fashion abandoned the actual Palis camp altogether.


The Can Crusher

41 of Palis' 58 votes have come from voters that chose a deplorable in the prior round.

Palis however has picked up 7 votes from voters that chose a non deplorable candidate in the prior round. 2 of those voters were straight defections from the Dragon camp (@The Diplomat and @KBE6EKCTAH_CCP ) which had to sting a little. The remaining voter camp changes were from a combination of Bernie Bros who did not follow @HomerThompson 's lead or just straight oddballs who had run very confusing / short lived campaigns of their own (@Overpressure @Clippy). Like the internet trolls of the Alt-Right, it seems like they are just in it for the "Lulz".

One ray of sunshine left for the @JDragon camp is his lead in grabbing new voters.

Of the 60 voters who did not vote last round, 13 have voted for the Dragon while only 9 have gone for Palis, almost nullifying Palis' lead in voting camp conversions.


What's Next....

Now that we have beat what has happened to a living death, lets look at what is to come...

We have 53 votes that have not yet been cast (compared to 60 last round), so we have already beat the prior round's participation rate.

13 of the current non voters took part in the last round, with 8 votes belonging to the Non Deplorable Camp while only 5 are in the Deplorable Camp. Based on the conversion rates to date, @Palis should be able to take another net vote from @JDragon, giving him 6 more votes and Dragon 7. That still leaves Dragon in the lead, 66 to 64.

The real question is what will happen with the remaining 38 voters who did not vote last round?

GNN analysis shows that 9 of those votes are Non-deplorable, 5 are deplorable, while 28 are neither / unknown. Again, combined with Dragons success on winning the new voters to date, the math favors the @JDragon , but the variability is very high, so DONT BLINK!!!!!

The Pan Factor

Much has been made by GNN of the Pan factor, a right wing moderate with a nuanced view on race, he does not fit the deplorable mode. So where have his voters gone to date?

Only one has gone to Palis (@CableandThanos ). What is notable is that 4 of the 5 non deplorable prior round voters that have yet to cast their votes in the current chose Pan (see both tables above). This includes @panamaican himself and @ehtheist (whom is def at risk to go Palis). And who the fuck is Tol anyway?

So again, the numbers look good, but not in anyway conclusive for the Dragon.

Am I considered a deplorable?

 

[Gandhi]

Am I considered a deplorable?

I have you as "neither"

 

[Gandhi]

Yea, I didn't have the deplorable/non list but the good thing about the primary/general is you can easily run a formula that takes the candidates current tally + remaining voters they received in the primary who didn't vote yet+ remaining voters that align to they group (I guess similar to the camp thing you said = estimated final tally. The only thing it doesn't factor in is new voters who have not voted which I think it would be bad to try to factor in other than just looking at that list.

You came to the same conclusion I have at this point but it does swing each day.

Also, same exact though I had at one point with "Who the fuck is Tol anyway?"

EDIT: Actually my pivot doesn't have any non registry voters in it. I see what you did now.

My table only goes to 170, so registers voters this time only are in may table (I have shown illegals in the past but thought it was no longer relevant you ).

The point is to look at the 53 votes left in the registry that have not voted and predict how they will fall. 8 of these went for non deplorables and 5 went for deplorables last time, but to date palis has been a little better at stealing so it could fall 7/6. Maybe even a little better for palis as 4 of the 8 of those non deplorables are pan voters.

After that it's all about the 38 votes that never voted before but are in the registry, Dragon is winning that war by a bit, but it's peanuts compared to what is out there. I also tried to break up the 38 votes by political stripe but that would have taken real work (looking up post histories, etc. maybe next election I will do that).

 

[Prime Ang]

Dear god no....based on his work in this thread, Hans would leave us with a sticky thread that is full of fake shit about posters he doesn't like. He'd be posting about how @Lead is actually trying to plow that girl in his punishment av, or more nonsense about JDragon and dogs, or how Hans LOVES the ladyboys in Singapore....

No matter if only part of what he admits to is true, he'd still be a horrible candidate.

So vote JDragon. He's stood up against the childish attacks of his opponent and his opponents friends valiantly, and is actually a WR regular.

If you vote for @Palis , you're nothing but a cuck...Palis said that the WR is full of cans and retards, and now he's trying to rule you.

If you vote for a guy who said you're a can, then clearly you're a cuck. Palis said it himself.

Don't degrade yourself for a Sports Bar wannabe-alpha who can't even handle his own campaign without @Dr J doing all the work for him.

Tldr

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

GNN Exclusive Update!!!!

JDragon pulls ahead by a razor thin margin while Palis shows greater "cross appeal" to likely cans!!!!!

Jdragon is leading by one vote amoung legal voters, 59 to 58, while 53 votes remain eligable to be cast!!!!

The Dragon

44 of the dragons vote has come from voters who chose a non deplorable candidate in the previouse round.

13 have come from new voters.

2 have come from voters that were in one deporable camp or the other in the last round. @Anung Un Rama voted for Muster X but opted for @JDragon in a move, that perhaps did not surprise those of us that know him, but is most certainty welcome to the Dragon camp. The other switch was from @GearSolidMetal who in Cruz fashion abandoned the actual Palis camp altogether.


The Can Crusher

41 of Palis' 58 votes have come from voters that chose a deplorable in the prior round.

Palis however has picked up 7 votes from voters that chose a non deplorable candidate in the prior round. 2 of those voters were straight defections from the Dragon camp (@The Diplomat and @KBE6EKCTAH_CCP ) which had to sting a little. The remaining voter camp changes were from a combination of Bernie Bros who did not follow @HomerThompson 's lead or just straight oddballs who had run very confusing / short lived campaigns of their own (@Overpressure @Clippy). Like the internet trolls of the Alt-Right, it seems like they are just in it for the "Lulz".

One ray of sunshine left for the @JDragon camp is his lead in grabbing new voters.

Of the 60 voters who did not vote last round, 13 have voted for the Dragon while only 9 have gone for Palis, almost nullifying Palis' lead in voting camp conversions.


What's Next....

Now that we have beat what has happened to a living death, lets look at what is to come...

We have 53 votes that have not yet been cast (compared to 60 last round), so we have already beat the prior round's participation rate.

13 of the current non voters took part in the last round, with 8 votes belonging to the Non Deplorable Camp while only 5 are in the Deplorable Camp. Based on the conversion rates to date, @Palis should be able to take another net vote from @JDragon, giving him 6 more votes and Dragon 7. That still leaves Dragon in the lead, 66 to 64.

The real question is what will happen with the remaining 38 voters who did not vote last round?

GNN analysis shows that 9 of those votes are Non-deplorable, 5 are deplorable, while 28 are neither / unknown. Again, combined with Dragons success on winning the new voters to date, the math favors the @JDragon , but the variability is very high, so DONT BLINK!!!!!

The Pan Factor

Much has been made by GNN of the Pan factor, a right wing moderate with a nuanced view on race, he does not fit the deplorable mode. So where have his voters gone to date?

Only one has gone to Palis (@CableandThanos ). What is notable is that 4 of the 8 non deplorable prior round voters that have yet to cast their votes in the current chose Pan (see both tables above). This includes @panamaican himself and @ehtheist (whom is def at risk to go Palis). And who the fuck is Tol anyway?

So again, the numbers look good, but not in anyway conclusive for the Dragon.

That is a damn fine analysis, Gandhi.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

Dear god no....based on his work in this thread, Hans would leave us with a sticky thread that is full of fake shit about posters he doesn't like. He'd be posting about how @Lead is actually trying to plow that girl in his punishment av, or more nonsense about JDragon and dogs, or how Hans LOVES the ladyboys in Singapore....

No matter if only part of what he admits to is true, he'd still be a horrible candidate.

So vote JDragon. He's stood up against the childish attacks of his opponent and his opponents friends valiantly, and is actually a WR regular.

If you vote for @Palis , you're nothing but a cuck...Palis said that the WR is full of cans and retards, and now he's trying to rule you.

If you vote for a guy who said you're a can, then clearly you're a cuck. Palis said it himself.

Don't degrade yourself for a Sports Bar wannabe-alpha who can't even handle his own campaign without @Dr J doing all the work for him.

One thing that eventually won me over is that I got the genuine feeling that Palis cares more about this campaign. And I say that as a former Dragonite....

 

[Blackened]

One thing that eventually won me over is that I got the genuine feeling that Palis cares more about this campaign. And I say that as a former Dragonite....

That sounds awesome.