PC Sherdog PC Build/Buy Thread, v6: My Power Supply Burned Down My House

[Andy Capp]

You're the one who can best decide your use case. The SN570 is definitely the more attractive value at the 500GB/512GB size.

But perhaps another thing to consider is that you'll probably recycle this drive to a future desktop or laptop. Since you appear to prefer laptops, bear in mind that there is always a very limited number of slots. Even the larger, more expensive laptops rarely have more than 3 x m.2 slots.

Since you mentioned Samsung, this one is on for the same price as the Sabrent,
https://www.newegg.ca/samsung-1tb-980/p/N82E16820147804

Yea or meh?

 

[Madmick]

Since you mentioned Samsung, this one is on for the same price as the Sabrent,
https://www.newegg.ca/samsung-1tb-980/p/N82E16820147804

Yea or meh?

The Sabrent is better.

 

[Dick]

Help needed. I want to upgrade my PC so I can play Elden Ring smoothly at 60 fps, or 120 fps if possible. I have a pre built ASUS rig I got last year, specs are:

CPU: Intel i5-9400F (2.9G)
Memory: LO-DDR4 2666 4G + 8G
Storage: 512 GB PCIE G3 SSD
VGA: NV GTX 1650 / 4GD6 (V2)

Should I be able to just upgrade the video card? 3060 or 3070?

There's a 3070 at the local shop for $1450 cdn and the 3060 is on sale for $750 I believe.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Help needed. I want to upgrade my PC so I can play Elden Ring smoothly at 60 fps, or 120 fps if possible. I have a pre built ASUS rig I got last year, specs are:

CPU: Intel i5-9400F (2.9G)
Memory: LO-DDR4 2666 4G + 8G
Storage: 512 GB PCIE G3 SSD
VGA: NV GTX 1650 / 4GD6 (V2)

Should I be able to just upgrade the video card? 3060 or 3070?

There's a 3070 at the local shop for $1450 cdn and the 3060 is on sale for $750 I believe.

Elden ring caps itself at 60fps unfortunately. It’s a stupid design decision. There is an unlocker mod but you have to play in offline mode or you will be pinged for cheating

If that is what you wanted to do though, then yes the 3060/70 would be a huge upgrade. That cpu is pretty weak to though. You could swap it for a 9600 or something like that. GPU first though

 

[Madmick]

Help needed. I want to upgrade my PC so I can play Elden Ring smoothly at 60 fps, or 120 fps if possible. I have a pre built ASUS rig I got last year, specs are:

CPU: Intel i5-9400F (2.9G)
Memory: LO-DDR4 2666 4G + 8G
Storage: 512 GB PCIE G3 SSD
VGA: NV GTX 1650 / 4GD6 (V2)

Should I be able to just upgrade the video card? 3060 or 3070?

There's a 3070 at the local shop for $1450 cdn and the 3060 is on sale for $750 I believe.

Yeah, as Blayt said, your GPU is by far your weakest component in that setup, and the most limiting. Just double check the dimension clearance for a GPU in your rig: what length, height, and if it supports dual-slot GPUs.

 

[DespicablePeep]

Quick question for the experts, should we wait for DDR5 to become cheaper or just build a budget PC with Intel 12th and DDR4? Is AMD worth after intel 12G?

 

[My Spot]

Help needed. I want to upgrade my PC so I can play Elden Ring smoothly at 60 fps, or 120 fps if possible. I have a pre built ASUS rig I got last year, specs are:

CPU: Intel i5-9400F (2.9G)
Memory: LO-DDR4 2666 4G + 8G
Storage: 512 GB PCIE G3 SSD
VGA: NV GTX 1650 / 4GD6 (V2)

Should I be able to just upgrade the video card? 3060 or 3070?

There's a 3070 at the local shop for $1450 cdn and the 3060 is on sale for $750 I believe.

Make sure you check out your power supply first since it's a prebuild.

 

[asharak]

Upgraded my system recently

i7-12700 (non-k)
Asus B660m TUF gaming wifi
32gb Corsair vengeance lpx cl 16 ddr4-3200
2x 1gb samsung 970 evo
corsair h100i elite capellix 240mm aio
seasonic gx-750 80+ gold modular psu

 

[asharak]

Upgraded my system recently

i7-12700 (non-k)
Asus B660m TUF gaming wifi
32gb Corsair vengeance lpx cl 16 ddr4-3200
2x 1gb samsung 970 evo
corsair h100i elite capellix 240mm aio
seasonic gx-750 80+ gold modular psu

was still using an i7-3700
have a gtx 1660s that I bought in early 2020 at msrp that I am still using

 

[560ti]

Should I be able to just upgrade the video card? 3060 or 3070?

As long as your power supply is decent then yeah that would be a huge upgrade over your current card

That cpu is pretty weak to though. You could swap it for a 9600 or something like that. GPU first though

CPU is actually pretty decent in real world usage. The most recent updated benchmarks have it on par with the ryzen 3600x. Obviously not high-end but you should be able to get good frame rates and good 1% lows

Quick question for the experts, should we wait for DDR5 to become cheaper or just build a budget PC with Intel 12th and DDR4? Is AMD worth after intel 12G?

12th gen with DDR4 is a great option and you'll be supported for 13th gen when it comes out. AMD is good but at the end of it's AM4 socket lifecycle so alot of people buying AMD now are those that already have the am4 platform and just want a modern CPU upgrade

 

[Dick]

I got the ROG STRIX 3060 12 gb OC edition.

Fucker just fit with maybe half an inch to spare.

 

[Slobodan]

Fucker just fit with maybe half an inch to spare.

 

[Strychnine]

GPU prices could soon drop below MSRP triggering a ‘surge’ of gamers building PCs

"Corsair has said that it expects GPU availability to improve and pricing to be back to MSRP soon, and possibly we’ll see price tags drop below recommended pricing with discounts, as more and more people build their own PCs in the second half of 2022.

Furthermore, Paul commented: “We expect that GPU cards will be back to MSRP in the near term, perhaps discounted below MSRP. With GPU and CPU products becoming available and reasonably priced, we expect to see a surge of self-built gaming PC activity in 2H22 and 2023. We see a similar positive trend with Peripherals.”

In short, there are a number of forces coming to bear with downward price pressure here. So it would, of course, follow that if the situation with GPU stock and pricing does improve as predicted, folks who have been holding back because they can’t get the graphics card they want – at a decent price, or indeed at all – will likely be going ahead with a build they’ve put off, meaning a ‘surge’ of new PC builds later this year seems a reasonable enough forecast."

GPU prices could soon drop below MSRP triggering a ‘surge’ of gamers building PCs (msn.com)

 

[Blayt7hh]

GPU prices could soon drop below MSRP triggering a ‘surge’ of gamers building PCs

"Corsair has said that it expects GPU availability to improve and pricing to be back to MSRP soon, and possibly we’ll see price tags drop below recommended pricing with discounts, as more and more people build their own PCs in the second half of 2022.

Furthermore, Paul commented: “We expect that GPU cards will be back to MSRP in the near term, perhaps discounted below MSRP. With GPU and CPU products becoming available and reasonably priced, we expect to see a surge of self-built gaming PC activity in 2H22 and 2023. We see a similar positive trend with Peripherals.”

In short, there are a number of forces coming to bear with downward price pressure here. So it would, of course, follow that if the situation with GPU stock and pricing does improve as predicted, folks who have been holding back because they can’t get the graphics card they want – at a decent price, or indeed at all – will likely be going ahead with a build they’ve put off, meaning a ‘surge’ of new PC builds later this year seems a reasonable enough forecast."

GPU prices could soon drop below MSRP triggering a ‘surge’ of gamers building PCs (msn.com)

I wonder if dropping below msrp is because they think a bunch of miners are going to try and offload them. No one should buy a used gpu though unless you know who it’s coming from. These mining rigs chew them up.

 

[Strychnine]

I wonder if dropping below msrp is because they think a bunch of miners are going to try and offload them. No one should buy a used gpu though unless you know who it’s coming from. These mining rigs chew them up.

Yeah, I'll never buy a used card. If it seems too good to be true?

You're buying a "Smokey & The Bandit" Firebird that's been doing full-on burnouts since the day it was plugged in.

Funk that.

 

[560ti]

GPU prices could soon drop below MSRP triggering a ‘surge’ of gamers building PCs

I belive it. My local brick n motar has been lowering them every single week for the last 4 weeks. Went earlier in the week and they had a handful of open box 6600/6600XTs that where under MSRP. 3060 for the first time ever was under $400. Multiple 3070tis for 13% over MSRP. Had 2 6700XTs that where only 9% over MSRP.

Prices are dropping fast.

I wonder if dropping below msrp is because they think a bunch of miners are going to try and offload them. No one should buy a used gpu though unless you know who it’s coming from. These mining rigs chew them up.

I don't think the used market will have a huge impact to be honest.

New PC owners won't risk it (no warranty, limited places to buy, reputation for the used market isn't great)

More enthuasist people like us will logically skip it because we were active in the community summer of 2014 and summer of 2018 so we all saw first hand the backlash that happened the last 2 times used crypto cards flooded the markets (bricked and artificating cards being send out by the hundreds of thousands).

Now that mining is winding down now the manufactuers have to target and entice actual real gamers value/price wise. Alot of price brackets aren't appealing to current rtx 2000/AMD 5000 series or higher users

EX: Someone owns an almost 3.5 year old RTX 2060. There's absolutely no current incentive to upgrade. The 6600 and 3060 are what maybe 15% faster and more expense ?

 

[My Spot]

Current prices at my MC:

cheapest 3050: $300 ($50 above MSRP)
cheapest 3060: $390 ($60 above MSRP)
cheapest 3070: $630 ($130 above MSRP)
cheapest 3070 Ti: $700 ($100 above MSRP)
cheapest 3080: $900 ($200 above MSRP)
cheapest 3080 Ti: $1280 ($80 above MSRP)
cheapest 3090: $1750 ($250 above MSRP)

 

[idrankyourbeer]

I got the ROG STRIX 3060 12 gb OC edition.

Fucker just fit with maybe half an inch to spare.

if it was half an inch longer, dick wouldnt be able to stick it all the way in there!

i have a strix 2080 on my main rig and im running a strix 970 on my older pc. theyre not really that small or too large. gpu length was never a concern to me. its more about the width of the case that i had to be wary of. im running a corsair 4000d airflow case and a corsair 200r case on my other pc. both can support fairly long video cards. but the 200r barely fits my hyper 212 evo cooler, and my 4000d fits my noctua nh-d15 with maybe half an inch or an inch to spare. it was a hell of a time trying to find a case that would play well with this beast of a cooler lol but i'm to paranoid to ever try watercooling, and the 11700k tends to run a little hot, so the nh-d15 pretty much the best option i had to go with, and i'm pretty satisfied with it.

strix cards are the shit though. the fans are super quiet, the cards run cool and they overclock fairly decently. i'll never buy any other brand. just on the performance bios on my strix 2080, i never even hear the fans and i just run it at the factory fan curve and clock speeds, yet ive never got it to hit over 66 degrees while gaming. thats a few degrees cooler than my strix 970 tops out at in the summer, yet it draws way more power. asus has really gotten their shit down with these cards. theyre not gonna set any overclocking records, but they still boost up pretty nicely and you'd be hard pressed to find a card that runs this cool under air while running almost completely silent. i'd pay the premium for the strix model over any other card. havent regretted it yet.

 

[jefferz]

@Madmick What sub $200 ATX case with 240mm AIO support would you buy right now for yourself?

I'm thinking of downsizing from a PC011 Dynamic.

 

[method115]

Yeah, I'll never buy a used card. If it seems too good to be true?

You're buying a "Smokey & The Bandit" Firebird that's been doing full-on burnouts since the day it was plugged in.

Funk that.

When I first started building PCs I always purchased used GPUs. You could get some insane deals off newegg doing that. Ever since Crypto though I wont even think about getting a used card.