Shadow Kickboxing Highlights

Discussion in 'Standup Technique' started by JeetKunDoGuy, Sep 30, 2013.

  1. JeetKunDoGuy

    JeetKunDoGuy Orange Belt

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    Hey everybody, it's been a while. I have been very busy in the middle of getting married and moving, but I made time to get some shawdowboxing work in. The room isn't huge so I have to accommodate. I tried to make it a little interesting by editing the video.

    Any critique or comment is appreciated.


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  2. a guy

    a guy Black Belt

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    Before anything else, congratulations!

    I don't have much to say in terms of critique that I haven't said before honestly, I've commented on enough of your stuff that you've probably heard it all from me at least once.

    What I really liked is how complete this workout was. You had good variety in both your offense AND defense, a rarity in shadowboxing. Good work practicing your movement and especially good work combining your kicking and punching combinations, that's probably the most neglected aspect of shadow kicboxing, and I'm more guilty of that than most. I saw improvement on pretty much everything I've criticized before and it's clear that you took something from your last shadowboxing thread. Definitely a solid session.
     
  3. StopDucking

    StopDucking Ronda Rousey hater

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    Dude, you're going to break every bones of your hand by punching with such open palms. If the guy you're fighting against decides to hit your hands with his skull, it's over for you.
     
  4. Yodsanan

    Yodsanan K'FESTA.1

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    What kinda kick you did at 0:45?
     
  5. Discipulus

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    Is this a joke?
     
  6. NAKMUAY18

    NAKMUAY18 Brown Belt

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    Is the video a joke?
     
  7. JeetKunDoGuy

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    Thanks guy! Honestly the information on this site, including some of the stuff you've written, has helped me formulate my game. And for that I am grateful.

    Hrm, ok. When I shadowbox I'm trying to stay loose, therefore the loose hands. Also if I'm in teh streetz it may be to my advantage if I were to leave my hand loose/open and say, scrape/stab you in the eyes. But when my hand contacts a solid object like say, a heavy bag or someones chin, I most certainly will tighten my fist as well.

    I use that sometimes to hook someones leg slightly to throw off their balance. Kinda like feint for the inside leg kick but whip it around their leg and pull forward. Idk what it's called

    What's the punchline? I heard there was a joke?
     
  8. NAKMUAY18

    NAKMUAY18 Brown Belt

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    Ever seen the "Star Wars kid" video?
     
  9. JeetKunDoGuy

    JeetKunDoGuy Orange Belt

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    If you're insinuating that my video is on par with star wars kid, then I would like to spar with you, so I can punch you in the face :D
     
  10. Yodsanan

    Yodsanan K'FESTA.1

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    looks bad to be honest.




    Do you train in a gym?

    Which style do you train?
     
  11. JeetKunDoGuy

    JeetKunDoGuy Orange Belt

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    ok, thank you! that was so helpful. I'm so glad you picked out a weird kick I only did once to comment on. I don't like it either now that you mention it. Yes I train in a gym. It's a MT gym, but I come from a wing chun/JKD/tae kwon do background...so I like to keep the JKD mindset. if that makes sense. And this shadowboxing session was me having fun and trying to be creative and use a variety of strikes..and in the process I did something weird, so what.
     
  12. NAKMUAY18

    NAKMUAY18 Brown Belt

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    Yes I am, and unfortunately the beginner class ends a couple of hrs before I get there so you might have to wait:icon_chee
    Do you seriously go to an MT gym an they let you kick like that??

    The most obvious criticism would be the God awful music and that your wife-beater is too small but I'll start at the beginning

    You're never in balance, you're always falling or leaning past your feet, that's why your balancing off the walls all the time. When you kick and especially knee, you fall back to your feet rather than resetting your base.
    52seconds, you fall into a knee then wave your arms like an extra in a JCVD film.

    When you punch you move your head around like your copying shit off youtube, problem is you lean past your feet and end up hung out to dry because your of balance.

    Uppercuts and hooks are big ol'e swinging haymakers or weird body spasms. Reaching all the way out before you turn them in to land. I could see them coming, go to Subway, decide what size sub I wanted, style of bread, filling, salad, sauce, go back for extra avocado, and still be back in time to counter those reaching uppercuts. The body spasms uppercut you lean away from the punch like it smells bad and stick your chin up in the air whist barely moving your hand.

    Your kicks are the equivalent to an arm punch in boxing, no hip like an MT kick, no chambering like a TKD, just a limp swing of your leg.

    @2mins how many people were you trying to elbow? I remember Zangniff used to have a similar move in Street Fighter 2 where he just spun around randomly hoping to hit something. Is that what you mean by training, you've been having "training" marathons on Street Fighter, picking up some moves? Explains the Haduken uppercuts!

    Positives.
    Your beard looks very Hygienic and that's a very nice blue you have on your walls.
     
  13. Vil7

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    You need to get with a coach to help you develop fundamentals. That jab needs a lot of work.
     
  14. Matt

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    Since his screen name is Jeet Kun Do Guy, I'm going to guess the answer is "no" because that's not Muay Thai that he's doing in the video.
     
  15. JeetKunDoGuy

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    It doesn't look like MT because I am not limiting myself to strict MT style. I'm just trying to get a good workout, have fun and maybe try some stuff I normally wouldn't use.

    I know I need a lot of work, but that's part of the reason I visit this site. I plan on setting up some private lessons with coach too..

    Nak, your unflinching review of how much I suck is invaluable. Thanks!
     
  16. Sano

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    That was harsh dude.

    It was not all bad. Creativity is part of the fun sometimes. It may get you your ass kicked, but it's fun nonetheless. Obviously you have to stick with what works if you want to fight, but you sound near dead inside. Your critiques however, besides the personal attacks, are pretty spot on.

    To the TS, negate the "tough love" comments and try implementing some of the things he said. I would suggest working on your balance and lowering your stance a bit as the number one priority. Work on extending your arms fully, especially with the jab, and use the correct motion. Slow it down a bit and work on the fundamentals. And dare I say it, tile exercise? lol :D Seriously it's what you need for your balance problems.

    Anyway, keep it fun when you want to if that helps and experiment. But you need to "perfect" the basics.
     
  17. My only advice would be to stop with the creative stuff and the unnecessary movement and go right back to your fundamentals. From a technical stand point, everything you threw had a lot of fundamental errors and you seem off balance at all times. As I said and it's not meant to be insulting, but you seriously should go back to the very beginning and drill all your basics over and over. I've been training and fighting for 8 years and I still stand infront of the heavy bag and a mirror and just work basic technique with my jab over and over, low kick over and over, footwork etc..
     
  18. NAKMUAY18

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    He said to Yod he trains at an MT gym, that's what I was referring to.
     
  19. NAKMUAY18

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    It was abit irritating that it was edited and set to music. That generally means that guys doesn't want criticism, they want to bask in the glow of everyone telling them how badass they are.
    It got harsh after he told me he wanted to spar me so he could punch me in the face. internestbadass.jpeg
    Was alittle much though, my bad. It's all true though so some points to work on at least
     
  20. Jukai

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    You need to SLOW DOWN dude. Slow down everything. At first I thought your footwork was bad and that is why you are constantly losing your balance, but outside of crossing your feet occasionally, it's decent if not slightly over-exaggerated (you pivot as if you're fighting a tornado; I know it's an exercise, but why not work on smaller, explosive pivots that will actually be useful). The problem is that everything you throw seems to throw you off balance. Everything. Even your jab throws you off balance because you have a tendency of throwing your rear arm backwards as you throw your jab forward. Your elbow is sticking out of your cross and you are bringing it back completely down but it isn't bad.
    Your hooks and uppercuts are... much more problematic. You wind up is way overblown even on your short hooks, and your body just seems to go faster than your feet.
    Still, if that is all you threw, you wouldn't be receiving the negative feedback. It's those kicks, man. The turn of the hip is going to get you that twirl, but you are just throw your leg like a crescent kick and then twirling on your foot. You are completely off balance but you try to mask it by throwing a side kick or a back kick, as if to try and turn that momentum into something serviceable--- that can't be good for developing habits.

    I think you're trying to do too much. Too much footwork, too much combination, too many crazy kicks and you're all doing it at a pace that is too fast. It's fine if this is an exercise, but if you want criticism, please post a video where you are much slower and throw a lot less combos.
     

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