Serious Movie Discussion XLI

[Rimbaud82]

it's a great movie. ciro guerra hasa way to tell things that resemble tarkovsky's film language. It's not for everbody but you enjoy the ride. i also recommend La Sombre del Caminante and Los Viajes de Viento if you can get those you will understand how he tells things

BTW he was my teacher in college and i know some of his tastes in movies.

Very interesting that he was your teacher mate. I'll try find those other two films as I absolutely loved Embrace of the Serpent.

 

[ColombianFist]

Very interesting that he was your teacher mate. I'll try find those other two films as I absolutely loved Embrace of the Serpent.

yup, the guy KNOWS HIS STUFF he has degree in film by the universidad nacional (it's translated national university) the most important film career in colombia. ciro's roots comes from tarkovsky, ford (how green was my valley) and pretty much every film that has this dense language.

funny story: in class we always said to him: "show la sombra!" and he just smiles. i watched the movie in tv but most in my class didn't


EDIT: I'VE FOUND CIRO'S OTHER MOVIES IN YOUTUBE!!!! go there and tell me what you think about those.

 

[Caio]

Latest Bourne is very good. The scene in Greece is so tense, amazing.

 

[Ricky13]

The Invitation was something else.

Was thinking it would make a great double-header with Green Room.

 

[TheStruggle]

Latest reviews of Sully and When the Bough Breaks. It's been a bad week for movies.

https://society-reviews.com/2016/09/11/sully-review/
https://society-reviews.com/2016/09/11/when-the-bough-breaks-review/

 

[chickenluver]

So the local badass theater is having a 70mm film festival.

Today I saw Spartacus and Apocalypse Now.

Spartacus looked great on the big screen. Olivier and Laughton are outstanding. Not one of my favorites by Kubrick, but a very good movie.

I forgot how unrelenting Apocalypse Now is. It's not total chaos for its entire run-time, but there are very few moments of levity during the quiet moments. Robert Duvall steals the show. Brando may have a pain in the ass to work with according to Coppola but it's impossible to imagine the film without him. The whole story of the production is pretty crazy.

edit: oh and this was the first time I noticed R Lee Emery has a small part.

 

[Sigh GunRanger]

OVereem looked disgustingly fat. It was comical. And he still almost pulled it out

 

[Joseph Budden]

The Neon Demon seems to have become.. available. I look forward to the SMD consensus on that one

SMD slacking with no one watching this. Film of the year

 

[Joseph Budden]

The Invitation was something else.

Was thinking it would make a great double-header with Green Room.

Agreed. And loved the Invitation, lowkey one of the year's best films

 

[Rimbaud82]

SMD slacking with no one watching this. Film of the year

I don't know, it just doesn't really sound that interesting to me for whatever reason. Plus, it's not getting very good reviews, just like Only God Forgives was very disappointing for me (apart from the visuals). So I haven't been that inspired to watch this either. You clearly love the film, sell it to me

 

[Rimbaud82]

Just watched The Invitation, it was very good. Really tense and keeps you intrigued the whole way through. I agree, it would make a great double header with Green Room.

 

[Tycho- Taylor's Version]

SMD slacking with no one watching this. Film of the year

I'm gonna watch it soon and report back. Had to watch A Separation twice more and then The Raid snuck in there too, but it's coming.

 

[Joseph Budden]

I don't know, it just doesn't really sound that interesting to me for whatever reason. Plus, it's not getting very good reviews, just like Only God Forgives was very disappointing for me (apart from the visuals). So I haven't been that inspired to watch this either. You clearly love the film, sell it to me

If you enjoyed the visual aesthetic of OGF, right off the bat thats a pitching point. The aesthetic and visuals in this film are even better. It HAS to be watched in high quality. Literally just watch the opening scene and opening credit sequence and you'll be drawn in in that regard immediately.

I would say OGF is the most comparable film of Refn's work, but its much more straight forward (well, kind of.....at least no crazy metaphors like the cop in OGF being God or anything too over the top like Gosling hand in the womb scene). Its unique and a film that can initiate a lot of conversation, and aren't those films always the most interesting to watch?

Hard to say more without giving anything away. For me personally, even if you haven't enjoyed all of Refn's work, if you at least enjoy and/or appreciate his aesthetic visually and sonically (Cliff Martinez is the man) this is easily worth your time. He continues to refine his style and his approach to storytelling and there aren't many directors so willing to take such chances or as unique.

 

[Rimbaud82]

If you enjoyed the visual aesthetic of OGF, right off the bat thats a pitching point. The aesthetic and visuals in this film are even better. It HAS to be watched in high quality. Literally just watch the opening scene and opening credit sequence and you'll be drawn in in that regard immediately.

I would say OGF is the most comparable film of Refn's work, but its much more straight forward (well, kind of.....at least no crazy metaphors like the cop in OGF being God or anything too over the top like Gosling hand in the womb scene). Its unique and a film that can initiate a lot of conversation, and aren't those films always the most interesting to watch?

Hard to say more without giving anything away. For me personally, even if you haven't enjoyed all of Refn's work, if you at least enjoy and/or appreciate his aesthetic visually and sonically (Cliff Martinez is the man) this is easily worth your time. He continues to refine his style and his approach to storytelling and there aren't many directors so willing to take such chances or as unique.

Alright, alright, alright. I'll give it a shot at some point this week.

 

[chickenluver]

So how many Orson Welles fans have we got here?

@Bullitt68 I know you're one.

What does everybody think about Welles' Shakespeare films?

 

[ufcfan4]

OVereem looked disgustingly fat. It was comical. And he still almost pulled it out

Bizarre night. One of the less impressive main cards I can think of in a while- though the Jojo vs. Andrade fight was quality and the main event was fun though wild and sloppy.

Reem's chin will always be a liability for him. Stipe is vulnerable like every other heavyweight, but he's very skilled.

 

[Ricky13]

I'm gonna watch it soon and report back. Had to watch A Separation twice more and then The Raid snuck in there too, but it's coming.

It's more "difficult" than Only God Forgives, so good luck. LOL. Definitely, watch it though. Moody little film.

 

[Bullitt68]

Man here I've been babbling about Season 2 not being at the same comedy standards but those are all grade-A jokes.

Recently, my Simpsons viewing was put on hold so that I could watch New Girl (when I fell down the rabbit hole with those Hollywood Reporter Roundtables, I watched two with Zooey Deschanel and now I've got an obsession going). I then read that New Girl would be doing a crossover in this upcoming season with Brooklyn Nine-Nine, which meant I also needed to rewatch Brooklyn Nine-Nine. I'm almost done and then I'll go back to The Simpsons.

I leftoff near the beginning of Season 3 and it's definitely still ascending in quality. I liked the first episode with Homer in the mental hospital and Michael Jackson doing a voice cameo, the second one with Lisa's disillusionment in Washington, the third one with Flanders and his "Leftorium," and especially the fourth one where Bart works at the mob bar. It was crazy, but The Simpsons has been on for so long that, when I saw the mob episode, I just assumed they were riffing on A Bronx Tale. Then I realized that season aired two years before A Bronx Tale.

Don't watch Don't Breathe.

As soon as I learned of that movie's existence, I figured it'd suck. I like that Stephen Lang is getting so much work, but it looks too stupid even for him to do anything to help.

Don't watch Stranger Things.

I already figured I'd eventually watch it for Winona Ryder. Then I looked it up and saw Matthew Modine was in it, too. It's going to happen at some point.

Watch The Get Down.

nice guys = best movie in a long time

As soon as I saw the trailer, I figured I'd like it. Still haven't gotten around to it yet, but whenever I have my next new movie binge, that one's first on the list.

Just watched Dersu Uzala by Kurosawa

You must've already seen a decent amount from Kurosawa to have made it to that out-of-the-way movie. For me, that one's part of his decline (which I think starts with High and Low, with Ran being the only anomalous great film from that later portion of his career IMO).

I just watched American Pyscho for the first time and i have to say that movie is fucking great lol. I have no idea why i haven't seen it before since i love Bale. Bale did a greatttt job i give that shit like 8 or 9/10

One of my cherished film school memories is doing a 15-minute presentation on American Psycho while wearing a Genesis shirt

For some unknown reason I thought about The Chronicles of Narnia, realized I hadn't watched any of the newer films, and decided I should watch them. On The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe now

First:



Second: The worst film class I ever took (which I took at a community college to save money on non-essential credits) was a literature and film class where we'd read a book and then watch the movie version. How could that fail, right? Easy: By having to read and watch Harry Potter, The Chronicles of Narnia, Howl's Moving Castle, and some other stupid shit I can't remember. The book sucked and the movie was stupid.

I watched one not so long ago where Ridley Scott was at the table, all the other directors were lambasting the difficulties of making a movie, it comes to Ridley and he's just like meh this shit is easy =D

fucking og.

Ridley always struck me as someone with a craftsmanlike mentality towards making film. It's very clinical and professional. The others act more like typical artists, filled with anxieties and self-reflection. Ridley is more focused on getting the work done and getting it done as best as he can. He doesn't think in so overt "meta"-terms like the others seem to be, about what's the nature of artistry and the like. Notice how he would often answer questions by telling anecdotal stories rather exploring the issue in more of a philisophical approach.

That's not to say Ridley isn't an artist. He very much is.

I love his approach to movies. I just wish he made better movies.

Just watched Lucifer Rising, a short film by Kenneth Anger.

So it's safe to assume you've already seen Scorpio Rising, right?

i have a film degree

In production, I take it?

This senses of cinema sheds a lot of light on the film - http://sensesofcinema.com/2015/cteq/lucifer-rising/

Someone in here actually reads film journals?

So how many Orson Welles fans have we got here?

@Bullitt68 I know you're one.

What does everybody think about Welles' Shakespeare films?

I'm a fan, but I'm not a hardcore fan. I've only seen his Shakespeare stuff once each a long time ago and found them to be pretty meh. The stories are obviously solid, but the casts are all really weak (save for Gielgud showing up in Chimes of Midnight) and they're not Welles' strongest aesthetic efforts.

For me, the pinnacle of Shakespeare on film is Kurosawa's Throne of Blood and the 1953 Julius Caesar.

 

[KOQ24]

I watched The Beguiled yesterday.Great Mix of Exploitation/Drama/Western by Don Siegel.
A Film like that could only come out after 1967 , i guess.
It was nice to see Eastwood play an Asshole for once.
Geraldine Page was the best part of the Film.

 

[Scott Parker 27]

Hell or Highwater; best film Ive seen so far this year (not saying a lot).