Serena Williams cries "discrimination" over drug testing

[snakedafunky]

I read a quote one time from former players and boxers saying Keith Richards after a night out at the clubs could pass any of the athletic commissions tests.

Arent tennis player tested by USADA? At least the Americans?
I think they busted Sharapova.

 

[snakedafunky]

We are talking about sports athletes and their suspicion level in regards to PEDs, and you are mentioning secret operations with the KGB?

I understand now. Thanks for getting that out of the way early.

I mean the Russian team and the Sochi Olympics.
There had a whole operation set up to beat the tests.

 

[Madmick]

Yeah but that was just one instance.
In the world of professional sport with a strict testing schedule that is not that shady.

No, it was two.

 

[dim_]

That was great work. Given what has happened to cycling the past 25 yrs I am glad to have wrapped it all up at 25, when I did.

It was an amazing time, it was incredible how much impact bloggers had on the whole case back them (because the mainstream media refused to).

That particular piece it was fed back to me that Travis Tygart had seen it, and then three momnths on one of the appendices to the Armstrong decision USADA wrote "We have repeatedly requested that Armstrongs team provide evidence of their claims of 500+ tests and do date they have refused" I was like.. yeh, we achieved something there.

 

[snakedafunky]

No, it was two.

Fair enough. But you see if you put that into the world of professional sport it is not that bad.
Ideally, there would be a no tolerance policy of course.
People just get so worked about Serena because they don't like her political statements.
You don't hear the same stuff about Sharapova.

 

[therealdope]

It was an amazing time, it was incredible how much impact bloggers had on the whole case back them (because the mainstream media refused to).

That particular piece it was fed back to me that Travis Tygart had seen it, and then three momnths on one of the appendices to the Armstrong decision USADA wrote "We have repeatedly requested that Armstrongs team provide evidence of their claims of 500+ tests and do date they have refused" I was like.. yeh, we achieved something there.

LOL - that is so awesome!! Damn.

Here is something random. I was actually at the crit course in Naaldwijk when Connie Meijer died in the middle of a race (heart attack). I'm pretty sure she was the first EPO death. Remember this was back when they didn't have a clue of how much to administer and a couple of amateurs died while sleeping.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

Fair enough. But you see if you put that into the world of professional sport it is not that bad.
Ideally, there would be a no tolerance policy of course.
People just get so worked about Serena because they don't like her political statements.
You don't hear the same stuff about Sharapova.

I don't really remember Serena making many political statements.

for the most part, it's her behavior on the court that draws scorn and criticism, like her recent hissy fit.

what political statements are you referring to?

 

[dim_]

Has anyone good ever been sanctioned by Tennis governing bodies?

@dimspace might be able to comment but apparently the names of the athletes who's blood bags were taken from Dr. Fuentes' fridge in 2006 are apparently going to be published (#piti). Fucking spanish and their love of doping - LOL! I fully expect to see Nadal's name pop up if they also publish non-cyclists.

theres only a very small handful of names that arent known to the public now, but I wouldnt hold up any hopes of anyone major being in there.

The civil gaurd did a good job of destroying shed tons of evidence.

there were two addresses raided, one address was mainly used by cyclists, the other by footballers, tennis players etc.

all the blood bags from the one address survived (the cyclists), the other address, very few made it out.

the raids were timed so there were no bags from soccer players there anyway, season was over.




you can see a lot of my work on puerto here http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=1783.0

ive got quite a lot of the evidence on hard drives here so have been through it all in depth.


most of the missing non-cycling names are track athletes

 

[dim_]

LOL - that is so awesome!! Damn.

Here is something random. I was actually at the crit course in Naaldwijk when Connie Meijer died in the middle of a race (heart attack). I'm pretty sure she was the first EPO death. Remember this was back when they didn't have a clue of how much to administer and a couple of amateurs died while sleeping.

Its really hard to get info from back then. There were a bunch of Dutch and Belgian riders in that 87-88 period but getting any info is nigh on impossible. No post mortems, nothing documented on the internet, its all just word of mouth stuff.

But yeh, the first were certainly around that time late 87-early 88

even later weird deaths like Frederiek Nolf they didnt do much in the way of investigation. swiftly buried, and forgotten about

 

[snakedafunky]

I don't really remember Serena making many political statements.

for the most part, it's her behavior on the court that draws scorn and criticism, like her recent hissy fit.

what political statements are you referring to?

The stuff here being tested because she is black or Sexism accusation.
I mean she has been outspoken on a lot of issues like black lives matter.

If you look at the people bashing her the hardest here. Those posters are not exactly in favour of those positions.

 

[dim_]

I mean, Bonds and Pharmstrong never failed a test either.

Lance failed a few, but they got covered up or written off as merely "suspicious" and not actually "positif"

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Lmao @ the guys ITT sayins they find her sexy. That is one of the scariest pictures ever. That outfit alone, ffs.

 

[panamaican]

To clarify, are you saying locking yourself in a room hiding from tests and literally refusing to take a random drug test is not shady?

This post struck me randomly given the other thread about the guy who got shot in his own house by the cop.

I don't think there's anything necessarily shady about a well known celebrity defaulting to a panic room when a stranger shows up. This particular occurence is getting more attention because the stranger is a drug tester.

 

[therealdope]

Its really hard to get info from back then. There were a bunch of Dutch and Belgian riders in that 87-88 period but getting any info is nigh on impossible. No post mortems, nothing documented on the internet, its all just word of mouth stuff.

But yeh, the first were certainly around that time late 87-early 88

even later weird deaths like Frederiek Nolf they didnt do much in the way of investigation. swiftly buried, and forgotten about

Ya - I was racing for a Dutch team at that time and of course it's just rumor but the story that was going around was that the pathologist made a comment that he could have used a fork to sample Connie Meijer's blood.

 

[Madmick]

This post struck me randomly given the other thread about the guy who got shot in his own house by the cop.

I don't think there's anything necessarily shady about a well known celebrity defaulting to a panic room when a stranger shows up. This particular occurence is getting more attention because the stranger is a drug tester.

They identified themselves. She had ample time to come out. The cops showed up, and she could have submitted to the testing then. This is not a logical defense of her behavior whatsoever.

I can see you're determined to keep playing the fool for Serena.

 

[therealdope]

This post struck me randomly given the other thread about the guy who got shot in his own house by the cop.

I don't think there's anything necessarily shady about a well known celebrity defaulting to a panic room when a stranger shows up. This particular occurence is getting more attention because the stranger is a drug tester.

WADA alerts you to the identity of the tester. You think they haven't thought this through FFS? THey've been testing for 18yrs, it's not like this is their first rodeo.

Her lawyers manufactured this plan and story for clueless people like you.

 

[lifelessheap]

Wand never failed a test either.

Neither did Lance Armstrong, right?

 

[therealdope]

Neither did Lance Armstrong, right?

He failed several actually. He created the story that he never failed one.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Or run from them.

Like Wanderlei.

I fell off a bit with MMA when PRIDE went down... but is this true? He physically ran from them? or is that hyperbole? I know Serena really did go into a panic room (LOL)

 

[My Spot]

I fell off a bit with MMA when PRIDE went down... but is this true? He physically ran from them? or is that hyperbole? I know Serena really did go into a panic room (LOL)

Yes, in 2014. He claimed it was because he was only on diuretics and got scared.