Sell outs????

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from making music to selling yourself as a product.
 
I keep having this argument in my head, is Snoop or Ice Cube the bigger sellout?

I've landed on Snoop. Ice doing cutsie family friendly movies like are we there yet or the one about the girl QB after telling me to fuck the police seems pretty sellie outie but watching commercials, and only commercials cause i don't watch the stupid show, of Snoop trading banter with Michael Bubbles, Reba McIntyre and some guy name Nial, about some long in the tooth, holy fuck do people watch this shit every week singing show has snoop higher on my list.

They're both multi-millionaire grandpa businessmen.

Do you think they should continue to rap about running the streets or actually running around with gangbangers and getting in shootouts like Snoop did in the early 90s?
 
I live in the Virgin Islands Saint Johns. I'm not trying to argue or troll
What exactly is the problem with that? I honestly don't understand the outrage. I'm not trying to argue, I think I'm missing some stuff. Down here it's barely any politics and I'm surrounded by black women from Jamaica or Bahamas. I just don't know

Post pics of Saint Johns.
 
We don't vote down here. Im not liberal or conservative
He's a liberal which means he can respect others cultures and want freedom of speak in his

I'm not seeing the issue
Don't answer a question with a question btw you sound like an Indian tourist trying to haggle

I am an Indian tourist, wtf !!!
 
Bill Burr is the biggest sell out. Years he preached and crapped on people like Beyonce for selling out for doing private concerts in the middle east.

In the last week he's been doing free ads for the Saudi gov't saying it isn't bad and being a huge shill. Probably the biggest sell out of all time.,
Ol' Billy Burka has to be one of the biggest sellouts of all time. He's saying that playing Saudi is one of the top 3 experiences in his entire lifetime lmao. Watch him come out with some rant about how his views changed after some grand epiphany. He spent years and years preaching against billionaires who commit human rights abuses, presenting himself as the archetypical common man that fights for the little guy and calls out the powerful, criticizing others for doing similar things, speaking against censorship, and so on.



 
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Bill Burr is the biggest sell out. Years he preached and crapped on people like Beyonce for selling out for doing private concerts in the middle east.

In the last week he's been doing free ads for the Saudi gov't saying it isn't bad and being a huge shill. Probably the biggest sell out of all time.,

Bill Barr is the most unedgy edgy comedian ever. Does he still have to submit his material to his wife for final approval?
 
Occasionally I'd see memes of celeb with no haters, and Jackie Chan would be one of them but a lot of people in the west doesn't know that he is actually one of the biggest sell out. He was my childhood idol growing up in Taiwan, but now here and in Hong Kong, he is deeply unpopular because there were many personal life scandals but most importantly, he went from being a freedom fighter for Hong Kong to now kowtowing to CCP in order to make as much money as he can.

Here is him in 1989 condemning CCP for the Tiananmen massacre when it would score brownie points with people in Hong Kong furthering his career.
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Once he recognize the market and earning potential if he aligns himself with the communist party, he started to make pro-Beijin statement and publicly expressed desire to actually join the party.
I remember watching a video of how much Jackie was a krusty the clown level shill in china he was on several products over there.
 
Dave Chapelle, Kevin Hart, etc.
 
They're both multi-millionaire grandpa businessmen.

Do you think they should continue to rap about running the streets or actually running around with gangbangers and getting in shootouts like Snoop did in the early 90s?
We’ll no but I also don’t want them to act like they’re little sweet cuddle bears either

As a multimillionaire star I would like for them to finance whatever projects they choose giving a break to some young’uns who they believe in

Or maybe quietly enjoy their hard earned wealth on their own

But too see supposed hardcore mofo’s acting all sugary sweet and selling products and projects their younger selves would have pissed on, kinda fits my definition of selling out bang on
 
A lot of original BMTH fans were angry at their sound becoming more commercial over the years. I just call it musical maturity.
 
Beyoncé. She left original group. Then She was solo and all hip hop and whatnot. Then decided most of the country buys country albums so she threw on a cowboy hat and some daisy dukes and started singing country.
I still don't understand how her country stuff isn't cultural appropriation not that I personally give a shit. But seems like it was.
 
Anyone who is famous enough for you to know, has had to either sell out, or more importantly give up something to get to that level of fame. The industry won’t allow it.
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Anyone who is famous enough for you to know, has had to either sell out, or more importantly give up something to get to that level of fame. The industry won’t allow it.
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i don't know about any of that, all I know from my little life is that yes, you will be vetted and expected to go against your principles and your best interests in exchange for some sort passage into some sort of promised land. The thing I noticed is it's endemic, it's in all of us, we are all crawling over each other in imitation of the alpha's, it really ruines any sort of ability to work together and it alienates us.
I know because that sort of shit gets me every single time when it comes to something I would want on the other end, no matter what they tell you on the face of things.

I could easily believe that the sellout gets more elaborate and more invasive the higher up you go. All I can say is that my answer will always be no.
 
I still don't understand how her country stuff isn't cultural appropriation not that I personally give a shit. But seems like it was.
I didn't listen to much of it but it just seemed a gimmick to me. Did it work? I don't know, I don't follow todays music but i did hear the hullabaloo it worked as intended.

Of course black people come back with the, "she's from texas" or "all country music is really blues anyway" which just isn't true but that's what they say. Black folk gave us a lot, most of our musical culture but it was never purely "black" or "african" . Like everything else, our music is all mixed up.

Country is an odd choice though, if there is one style that a lot of people hate, think is backwards or just plain don't like, it's country. I know large swaths of the country love it but other parts couldn't tell you anything about it.
 
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