Sell outs????

[Tito Tapped]

The Undertaker had the fastest growing podcast we've seen in years..... only to turn around and sell it out from under his friend, fire him, and bring in his shit wife to ruin the show.

 

[Jesus X]

Anyone who is famous enough for you to know, has had to either sell out, or more importantly give up something to get to that level of fame. The industry won’t allow it.
@7:04

The mark sanchez situation seems suspicious like he is shamed all of a sudden he must have pissed off some high ranking guy.

 

[Sycho Sid]

I still don't understand how her country stuff isn't cultural appropriation not that I personally give a shit. But seems like it was.

Because country music is a product of black and white culture?

 

[tank666]

Because country music is a product of black and white culture?

I honestly don't know maybe you're right?

 

[Sycho Sid]

I honestly don't know maybe you're right?

Oh, sorry. Yeah, it is. I hate country music, but you should look up its history, pretty fun.

 

[560ti]

Colin Kaepernick.

Claimed to be this social activist who was going to quote "stand for the truth no matter the cost" and then proceeds to take a hush money settlement.......

 

[Possum Jenkins]

We’ll no but I also don’t want them to act like they’re little sweet cuddle bears either

As a multimillionaire star I would like for them to finance whatever projects they choose giving a break to some young’uns who they believe in

Or maybe quietly enjoy their hard earned wealth on their own

But too see supposed hardcore mofo’s acting all sugary sweet and selling products and projects their younger selves would have pissed on, kinda fits my definition of selling out bang on

But the reason they were hardcore mofos in their youth was because they were poor, young, living in crime-ridden areas, running around with unsavory characters.

Today, none of those things are true. They're rich, famous, grandpas with mainstream acceptance and visibility. It'd be completely illogical for them to still be "hardcore mofos." And they're also artists who got famous by having people consume their music and films. It'd also be irrational/illogical for them to just stop doing that and quietly fade away from the spotlight.

 

[Osculater]

I still don't understand how her country stuff isn't cultural appropriation not that I personally give a shit. But seems like it was.

"Early country music was often rebranded or stolen from the hymns and field songs of Southern enslaved people, as well as from professional, Black musicians. The previous state song of Virginia, “Carry Me Back to Old Virginia,” was created by James Bland, an African American musician and songwriter."

 

[Osculater]

I still don't understand how her country stuff isn't cultural appropriation not that I personally give a shit. But seems like it was.

I didn't listen to much of it but it just seemed a gimmick to me. Did it work? I don't know, I don't follow todays music but i did hear the hullabaloo it worked as intended.

Of course black people come back with the, "she's from texas" or "all country music is really blues anyway" which just isn't true but that's what they say. Black folk gave us a lot, most of our musical culture but it was never purely "black" or "african" . Like everything else, our music is all mixed up.

Country is an odd choice though, if there is one style that a lot of people hate, think is backwards or just plain don't like, it's country. I know large swaths of the country love it but other parts couldn't tell you anything about it.

"Early country music was often rebranded or stolen from the hymns and field songs of Southern enslaved people, as well as from professional, Black musicians. The previous state song of Virginia, “Carry Me Back to Old Virginia,” was created by James Bland, an African American musician and songwriter."

 

[mozfonky]

"Early country music was often rebranded or stolen from the hymns and field songs of Southern enslaved people, as well as from professional, Black musicians. The previous state song of Virginia, “Carry Me Back to Old Virginia,” was created by James Bland, an African American musician and songwriter."

The instruments, lanuage, scales and songs /compositions also came from Europe. The British isles had its music they brought over. Africans had the rhythms, the call/response, blues scale. Its all in the gumbo. Little Richard and Chuck Berry loved Country like Elvis and Jerry Lee loved the blues.

 

[TribalDrumz]

Les Stroud aka Survivorman, sold out to that Bigfoot travesty embarrassment

 

[chimpoehurricane]

Who do you consider to be a gigantic sell out?

I have a couple of candidates but don’t want to steer the conversation in any particular direction too early

So tell me who you think is a sell out and if this thread gets some replies I’ll jump back in with mine

And if it doesn’t I’ll disavow all knowledge of it and any responsibility for its care

Dwayne Johnson and Kevin hart. Plans thstvwire the dress. Cens and others doing humiliation rituals for their friends down at the we eef.

 

[HHJ]

Everyone got their personal limit.


Even Torrhen Stark had to bend the knee to Aegon Targaryen

 

[HHJ]

Occasionally I'd see memes of celeb with no haters, and Jackie Chan would be one of them but a lot of people in the west doesn't know that he is actually one of the biggest sell out. He was my childhood idol growing up in Taiwan, but now here and in Hong Kong, he is deeply unpopular because there were many personal life scandals but most importantly, he went from being a freedom fighter for Hong Kong to now kowtowing to CCP in order to make as much money as he can.

Here is him in 1989 condemning CCP for the Tiananmen massacre when it would score brownie points with people in Hong Kong furthering his career.

Once he recognize the market and earning potential if he aligns himself with the communist party, he started to make pro-Beijin statement and publicly expressed desire to actually join the party.

Im just gonna go ahead and ignore this post.

 

[HHJ]

Metalheads we’re not pleased with the black album, but when load and reload were released the word sellout became synonymous with Metallica

Yeah.


I saw this first hand.

It was traumatising to the headbanging community that our biggest metal champions decided to cut their hair, put on make up, and make out with each other.

AND HAD THE NERVE

TO CALL THEMSELVES METALLICA STILL

 

[HHJ]

(ngl i still love metallica and the first 4 albums are the goatest albums to ever goat)

 

[Natural Order]

The concept of "sell outs" comes from the anti-pop mindframe....that once something becomes mainstream or too many people like it, I can no longer enjoy that same thing.

Typically seen in music talk from somebody who would discover a band before everybody else (ie Tool with Opiate), talk them up as the best thing nobody has ever heard, watch them indeed gain popularity, record a 2nd album (Tool) that becomes a commercial success and then proceed to say you don't like them and they are sell outs.

It's all so tiresome.

 

[Gutter Chris]

Yeah.


I saw this first hand.

It was traumatising to the headbanging community that our biggest metal champions decided to cut their hair, put on make up, and make out with each other.

AND HAD THE NERVE

TO CALL THEMSELVES METALLICA STILL

It's awesome not being a metalhead that I can enjoy load ao much without getting mad at it and it's one of my fave albums by them. I do like lightning and justice better if it makes you feel better. I don't give a shit about what they wear and my own hero wore eye liner all the time. Mr Mike ness. Load is a crunchy album with a Lotta good jams. It's not st anger .

Feel like you guys would have appreciated it more had you known it was gonna be the last good one.

I get it though there's Lotta punk bands I got mat at back in the day for the same kinda shit. I got mad at bands for changing labels let alone look and sound.

 

[Jack Reacheround]

great question, Greil Marcus said one thing about Elvis that pretty much was on target, he quoted Melville's "only the man who says no is free" and then said Elvis' "yes" was the biggest, grandest yes of all. Elvis took a lot of shit, made a lot of moves that would upset fans, making silly movies, doing silly songs, wearing silly costumes but it was all so huge and grand and the times he said no were really all the more special such as the 68 special. Elvis, for his side, once asked by a newsman why he recorded some of the stuff he did in the sixties, and Elvis just politely said, "sir, I don't suppose you've ever been poor".

Also, the closest competitor to Elvis, MJ, was similar in his complete lack of integrity when it came to sales. Change his color, his voice, his face, thank god he was such a great artist. We have to take the bitter with the sweet if we want an artists work at all. And.., as I always say, they are the ones that have to live(or die) with themselves.

That’s fine. But I can smell disingenuous intent behind art a mile away, and I choose not to support it. And I choose to talk shit about it.

That’s not to say that some art which is purely motivated by profit can’t be good. Some is. Typically not music though. Especially when it’s supposed to be metal, like Disturbed or something. That shit comes across as really corny when your whole motivation is making money and hanging teenagers.

 

[HHJ]

It's awesome not being a metalhead