Elections ***Second Democratic Primary Debate play-by-play thread: Night 1. ***

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Bernie really needs to stop comparing America's health care, to Canada's.

We have 37-ish million people in the entire country. It's just a tad more complicated in a nation with 300+ million.
I don’t really think so. Our economy is larger than yours by a greater factor than our population, so what’s the problem?

Just saying “You’re big so it’s too hard,” is a very illogical argument unless you provide some specific reasons WHY our size should make it more difficult.

I could just as easily and plausibly say that economy of scale should make it easier for us.
 
The non-government middle class is getting DESTROYED by health insurance costs right now.. Somebody would have been smart enough to say "I'll raise taxes an average of 500 to save an average of much more than that. As long as there is a net savings for the middle class who is having the hardest time right now, I'll be on board."

CNN setting up the questions for their insurance lobby buddies, or course.
 
Bernie really needs to stop comparing America's health care, to Canada's.

We have 37-ish million people in the entire country. It's just a tad more complicated in a nation with 300+ million.
Not really. Just logistics implementation, but America is fantastic at that when we want to blow people up. I'm sure we can find a way to do it to save lives. The only burden we truly face is the political one.

Your argument is trash, and your dad is a beta.
 
Kind of. He stepped hard on the super obvious tax question, unnecessarily. Better, probably.
I don’t agree that it’s unnecessary. It’s easy to perceive that Bernie and warren pay for it with taxes on the wealthy.

Also, he added in exchange for paying premiums. He was clear about the trade off.
 
I agree. More Williamson please. I want to hear her cosmic hippy batshit solution to healthcare.

Shut the fuck up, everyone else. Give the crazy lady the floor.



She will love the sick out of America.


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Pete nailed it. Let the market decide with the public option


It's a legitimate factor as shown by Vermont and it's failure on health care
The "yes or no" framing of the question ignores/undermines the obvious and logical answer that is concerned with total cost. Those sorts of questions are bad.
 
I wonder if the DNC planned this so that Bernie and Warren get singled out and made to look looney. They are the only 2 for medicare for all.
 
No one:

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Jake Tapper: I'm going to go to Senator Sanders and then Senator Warren
 
Sanders should refrain from drinking while cameras are on. The Shakey hands are bad optics
 
Pete nailed it. Let the market decide with the public option

Dude is a stud, I must admit.

Listen to all these other clowns hysterically arguing with each other. Pete just calmly tells it like it is.
 
Warren: "Washington works great for the wealthy"..dropping truth bombs.
 
Not really. Just logistics implementation, but America is fantastic at that when we want to blow people up. I'm sure we can find a way to do it to save lives. The only burden we truly face is the political one.

Nah, you face a logistical one.

Your argument is trash, and your dad is a beta.

My argument is sound, and my dad is alpha as fuck.
 
I agree. More Williamson please. I want to hear her cosmic hippy batshit solution to healthcare.

Shut the fuck up, everyone else. Give the crazy lady the floor.

I wanna hear from Williamson also... Particularly about that land strip of, “Love” she’s got in that Pipe Dream with everybody coming.

 
I wish the candidates got more time to speak. The moderators keep cutting them off.
 
The "yes or no" framing of the question ignores/undermines the obvious and logical answer that is concerned with total cost. Those sorts of questions are bad.

Total cost doesn't appeal to the middle class, it's how will their net income be impacted.
 
But it is in fact a business. I get it, he doesn’t think it should be. But we have to deal with reality.
 
These people each need another minutes to speak. This format for a debate sucks and is rigged.. They want it broken down into sound bytes with no hashed out ideas. GARBAGE.
 
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