Elections Second Assassination Attempt of Trump at his Florida golf course

[HOLA]

Both sides are the same. I don't even like Trump. That's why I'm voting for Trump in 2024.

 

[KOByFootStomp]

Even Trump's granddaughter isn't safe from the TDS zombies, smh.

This is exactly who democrats are. They are just hateful losers that are angry that they are incels stuck in their mothers basement for life. There's a reason why democrats beg for the celebrity endorsements, it's because they know their voting base are below room temperature IQ and don't care about policy at all.

 

[USA!USA!]

This is exactly who democrats are. They are just hateful losers that are angry that they are incels stuck in their mothers basement for life. There's a reason why democrats beg for the celebrity endorsements, it's because they know their voting base are below room temperature IQ and don't care about policy at all.

You are the one exposing your low IQ by claiming all democrats are like this. You are so wound up in the political game that you have lost your sense of reality.

You don't actually think all democrats really wish Trump's granddaughter was in danger, do you? Do you honestly think that?

If so, you are too far gone.

 

[Zazen]

This is exactly who democrats are. They are just hateful losers that are angry that they are incels stuck in their mothers basement for life. There's a reason why democrats beg for the celebrity endorsements, it's because they know their voting base are below room temperature IQ and don't care about policy at all.

Who's begging for celebrity endorsements? The biggest moment at the GOP convention was Hulk Hogan ripping his shirt off lmao. It's the GOP that needs to beg because only B listers show up to their events. Kid Rock.... need I say more?

 

[Islam Imamate]

Based on what?

Based on the fact that you're being rude and making bad faith assumptions about me.

No, it's me telling you that arguing a different point than the one that I made is not arguing the point that I made. Again, what you're doing is called sophistry, and I have no interest in it.

Telling of what? Of what I told you when I pointed out that one could get wrapped up in a semantic battle but that it was not necessary to do so?

Did you even read that part?

When I said Trump is unique in his contesting of the election that was not to say that no one in the history of the US has ever contested an election after election day under any circumstances. Its to say that the way he contested the election stands out; a sitting president attempted to use extralegal means to attempt to prevent the peaceful transfer of power.

Having clarified that, do you agree or disagree with that claim? If not, what part do you disagree with?

I know this already. It's why you picked this fight. I don't care what you do, though. I've accepted that nothing that I say will change what you think or how you act. That's not why you're here and that's fine. If you want to keep banging your head against the wall, go to it. Just don't pick fights with people who suggest that banging one's head against the wall is not advisable and then deny that you're banging your head against the wall.

I didn't pick a fight, I disagreed with a point you made. I'm perfectly open to having my mind changed, just because I don't find your arguments convincing doesn't mean I can't be convinced.

I respect him. He's proven to be capable of introspection, of adjusting himself and his tone, of reassessing his opinion of me through honest and intelligent conversation. And I've demonstrated the same thing. Our exchange is what it should look like when mature people who don't share the same views converse. I'm not going to extend the same courtesy to you because you haven't earned that courtesy from me. Remember, again: You started this. You picked a fight with me. I don't care why, but you did, and so it's not incumbent upon me to like you or respect you based on the way that you've conducted yourself thus far. You'll have to do something different for me to see and treat you different. Can you find anything that you've said that you think is evidence of a misunderstanding, or a strawman, or sophistry? Could you even point to a single part of a single post about which you'd say that you expressed yourself poorly? Give me something. Anything. Show me that you're not just arguing for the sake of arguing, that you're actually interested in understanding what I'm saying. If you can't do this, then don't bother responding, because this will be the last time that I respond to any of your posts.

Again I didn't start a fight, I disagreed with a point you made. That's the point of the WR. You're complaining about how I've conducted myself but you've been far more rude and bad faith if anything. Calling me a parrot, questioning my reading comprehension, these are not things a good faith person does in trying to hash out a misunderstanding.

I don't think I've engaged in strawman or sophistry but clearly we're having some kind misunderstanding somewhere.

The first misunderstanding seems to center around your point that you're against hyperbole when it comes to criticisms of Trump, that Trump's critics should shut up about him, and my response to these points.

I pushed back by saying that its not hyperbole to point out that Trump is a threat to democracy based on his history of trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power.

You then responded by saying that perhaps I'm making sober criticisms of Trump but if so then you're not referring to my argument and that its directed at those who are.

The issue with that is that many people do think that merely engaging in a sober retelling of the events that lead up to Jan 6th is "TDS" or hyperbole. So where do you draw the line to determine what is and isn't hyperbole in criticizing Trump? We probably both agree that Hitler comparisons aren't helpful but beyond that its not clear at all. So there's some misunderstanding as it relates to this point.

The other misunderstanding seems to center around this point about whether Trump is unique in his contesting of the election. I was specifically referring to the unique set of circumstances leading up to and during Jan 6th. You seemed to have interpreted that as my saying that no one has ever contested an election in the US after election day. Certainly I wouldn't claim that as I lived through the Al Gore debacle but its possible my wording could've been better and that if so you would not have misinterpreted my post.

I then interpreted your response as equivocating between what Trump did and what Clinton did and here you claim I misunderstood you and that you weren't equating the Jan 6th plot with Clinton's comments, just the rhetoric. So that's one potential source of the misunderstanding on my end though I still went on to address that point on its own terms and I think I made a solid case that even just comparing their rhetoric Trump's was distinct.

So the main misunderstandings relate to the point about which criticisms of Trump are hyperbole and which aren't as well as whether or not Trump's attempted coup is unique in the context of US history.

 

[Sinister]

You are the one exposing your low IQ by claiming all democrats are like this. You are so wound up in the political game that you have lost your sense of reality.

You don't actually think all democrats really wish Trump's granddaughter was in danger, do you? Do you honestly think that?

If so, you are too far gone.

Beware people who post memed comments without the context they were made in.

 

[ChosenOne]

If @Bullitt68 is not a Trumper he certainly has adopted the Trump mentality of crying victim, while ignoring that he calls others worse and accuses them of worse.

But oh woe is him. FLOL.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

You are the one exposing your low IQ by claiming all democrats are like this. You are so wound up in the political game that you have lost your sense of reality.

You don't actually think all democrats really wish Trump's granddaughter was in danger, do you? Do you honestly think that?

If so, you are too far gone.

the only thing i seen in that guys post is a whole lot of projection.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

oh shit. we got two mods throwing hands in here.

 

[Zazen]

How do you not see that this is not only a stupid thing to say, but a counterproductive thing to say in that it's exactly this sort of rhetorical nonsense that alienates to the point of creating opponents out of those who otherwise would've been allies? I just told you that I think that Trump shouldn't even have been allowed to run for President again. We should be on the same side, yet you see me - and, more importantly, you treat me - as an enemy. Is your worldview really that warped?

You think this is an extreme view? Let's look at some of the facts.

1) Trump tried to overturn the election. We've gone over this. The proof is everywhere at this point. You can read more about the fake elector's plot here. If you don't like Wiki then you can simply do a google search, it's everywhere. It's not disputable what he did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot

2) Donald Trump wanted to suspend the constitution. You know that thing that the right constantly jerks off to and pretends is the most sacred thing in the universe? Yeah, that one.... he was throwing a fit and wanted to suspend it lol. Here's the tweet.

3. Trump has over staffed over 100 people that worked on Project 2025. His name is mentioned over 300 times in this document. Just a few things he wants to do includes getting rid of the department of education, firing all civil servants and replace them with MAGA loyalists, eliminate EPA, abortion ban, and a list of other things that work take this country backwards.

4. Trump loves dictators. This is no secret. He openly praises them. Here's a quote he said about Xi Jinping removing term limits.

"He's now president for life, president for life. And he's great. And look, he was able to do that. I think it's great. Maybe we'll have to give that a shot someday"

Let me remind you once more that this guy did attempt to overturn the election. He also said in front of a Christian audience that they would only have to vote one more time and everything would be taken care of. He also has the Supreme Court loyal to him.

5. Donald Trump demonizes people instead of uniting this country. He is currently running a hate campaign against Haitian immigrants. He calls them illegal savages despite the fact that Springfield wanted those immigrants to come over and revitalize a dead economy. These are legal migrant workers. The geese they carried were roadkill being picked off the road. The cat rumor was madeup by a woman and then the lies were perputated by a Neo Nazi group called Blood Tribe. Do we really want a guy in office spouting Nazi talking points? Christ this is as low as you can get.



I could go on and on. He doesn't know how tariffs work still, he passed a law that made it harder to report on drone strikes, etc.

Point is the more you learn about the man the more you realize how he's such a danger to this country. We can't survive as a democracy with these lies being told everyday. 2016 maybe you could get away with this take but in 2024 and still defending him that much. Sorry I don't see a difference between you and a Trump supporter.

 

[LMP]

oh shit. we got two mods throwing hands in here.

Just let em bang bro.

 

[fingercuffs]

Who's begging for celebrity endorsements? The biggest moment at the GOP convention was Hulk Hogan ripping his shirt off lmao. It's the GOP that needs to beg because only B listers show up to their events. Kid Rock.... need I say more?

Kamala's got Beyonce, Swift and Eilish in her corner, none that she begged for and who are pretty much the trifecta of modern female music royalty.

 

[MMA IAN]

Thank you so much for clearing that up

That article also runs with the 'Ukraine's military has neo nazis in it' line.

 

[San Marino]

1) Trump tried to overturn the election.

False.
Trump wanted an investigation into how votes were counted in specific states.

2) Donald Trump wanted to suspend the constitution.

False.
Trump was referring to specific articles in the constitution.

3. Trump has over staffed over 100 people that worked on Project 2025. His name is mentioned over 300 times in this document.

False.
Trump has nothing to do with 'Project 2025.' He claims to not have read the document.

4. Trump loves dictators.

False.
He may like the strength and respect they portray as compared to Biden or Harris.

5. Donald Trump demonizes people instead of uniting this country.

False.
Trump does not demonize anyone. If anyone is doing that it would be the left, Biden, Clinton, and Harris. Has Biden or Harris united America? The country was more united under Trump than it currently is under Biden. The US is currently the laughingstock of Europe, Israel, Russia, China, and other parts of the world. The world no longer listens to Biden or Harris.

Point is the more you learn about the man the more you realize how he's such a danger to this country. We can't survive as a democracy with these lies being told every day.

False.
This is the exact kind of rhetoric that has almost gotten Trump killed twice now. Stop spreading lies and bullshit!
Donald Trump is not and has never been a threat to US democracy. Kamala Harris and her socialist views are a much bigger threat to US democracy. Harris has the same ideology as Hugo Chavez and look what he turned Venezuela into. Harris has repeatedly made clear that she supports capitalism. She is lying. Her father, a renowned economist who has been a fleeting figure in her life, has been described as a 'Marxist scholar.' Marxism refers to the political, social and economic theories of Karl Marx, practiced as socialism or communism.

* As much as folks may hate Trump, he currently holds roughly 48% of polled votes. What does that tell you about what Americans think of Donald Trump?

 

[Quadtavius Tuck]

Both sides are the same. I don't even like Trump. That's why I'm voting for Trump in 2024.

Ouch @Rob Battisti are you just gonna let that slide

 

[KOByFootStomp]

Who's begging for celebrity endorsements? The biggest moment at the GOP convention was Hulk Hogan ripping his shirt off lmao. It's the GOP that needs to beg because only B listers show up to their events. Kid Rock.... need I say more?

If you weren't an incel stuck in your mother's basement jacking off to assassination attempts you'd see all these Low-T democrat men and High-T democrat women shitting their little britches over a Taylor Swift endorsement.

 

[lsa]

You are the one exposing your low IQ by claiming all democrats are like this. You are so wound up in the political game that you have lost your sense of reality.

You don't actually think all democrats really wish Trump's granddaughter was in danger, do you? Do you honestly think that?

If so, you are too far gone.

It like people never been on social media.
Hateful comments and sexual comments are common, (sadly).
Show me a famous or semi famous person that never got hate on social media..

 

[Poon Goon]

Trump has nothing to do with 'Project 2025.' He claims to not have read the document.

This is one topic where I 100% believe Trump. No fucking way he's read that. He loves the bible though. Old and new testaments equally so he can't pick a favorite.

 

[calavera2]

Just let em bang bro.

@Bullitt68 trying to blanket and wall and stall @Islam Imamate to a decision but he ain't having it. Let them bang indeed...

 

[evansusmc2]

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Enjoy your big dose of SPEAK FOR YOURSELF.