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Imagine liking Hasan Piker and respecting anything he has to say. Dude is a fucking retard. You’d have to be a cuck like Idubbbz to enjoy this kinda shit or take it seriously.
he's not one to call for violence really ever, even when it's defensible. also he did absolutely nothing to his dog, so idk. i guess, just be mad about made-up stuff. that's typical of most facebook boomers.
They are a training tool. Your opinion doesn't change reality lol. Was this guy as ass for using it on his dog for no reason? Yes.The issue I have is the people that immediately kinda/sorta said it was okay were all right wingers.
And most left wingers said you shouldn't use shock collars period.
Then it devolved more along party lines.
Guys who said "it's okay to use shock collars" suddenly condemned them, while lefties generally started saying "well, maybe it's okay".
This is so dumb.
You're either against shock collars or you're not.
I am. They're not a training tool. If you can't train a dog without one, don't have a dog. You can't punish a dog because you wanted a dog. Period.
Dude, I don’t know where to start, but no way this guy loves America as much as you claim he does. Besides being from Turkey and stating that while he was growing up, he saw from a close geographical aspect, the results of America’s aggression and hunger for never ending wars. He has repeatedly called hamas freedom fighters and said he didn’t care if rapes happened on oct 7 because it wouldn’t change his viewpoint on hamas and that “no resistance is perfect.”
can't believe i'm also among the ones keeping this shit alive after coming out against it. @Fox by the Sea btfo
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They are a training tool. Your opinion doesn't change reality lol. Was this guy as ass for using it on his dog for no reason? Yes.
There is some nuance to this.
I’ll make an analogy, some people say that spanking is bad, and I’ll say that it’s not truly a black-and-white thing.
If a kid is angry and curses out their grandparents, and then he receives a spanking, I would say that that is warranted.
If a kid is forced to sit in the corner of the room for four hours straight, and then tries to sneak out when no one is looking, and then gets spanked because they are caught trying to sneak out of the corner of the room, I would say that that is cruel and unusual punishment, not just the spanking, but for being forced to sit in one spot for four hours.
The two scenarios were spanking is involved is completely different.
I think their best use is as an invisible fence. Once the dog knows not to go beyond a certain point they stop doing it and don't get shocked anymore. It saves doggy lives.They are a training tool. Your opinion doesn't change reality lol. Was this guy as ass for using it on his dog for no reason? Yes.
I don't consider what he did to be training. It was indeed used to punish this dog and get it to stay in one spot for his little stream. Shock collars are meant to be used along with other training methods and can be very useful. I have a wireless fence for my dog because he likes to wander. I could keep him in a 12x12 pin all day while I work or I can let him roam 10 acres or so of my property with the collar. Which do you think my dog prefers?No reason?
He was "training" it, no?
It's life should be to sit sadly and quietly like an ornament, something you can achieve with that mind of "training tool".
Lol, no training tool can imprison another creature like that, only a device aimed at punishing can do that.
There's a world of difference between punishment and training, though I accept not everyone is intelligent enough to see the difference and many STILL believe it's the same thing.
I don't believe spanking or similar punishment works.
Good people who got spanked think it does, but then plenty of bad people got spanked and it didn't do a damn thing, right?
I did get a few spankings or similar, but when I think back the worst punishments were self-induced. The shame I felt when I called my dad something pretty nasty is something I can still remember to this day. It took me ages to try and mend that one and it's still with me. Probably spent 5 or 6 hours before I ventured back to see what the state of play was. Spankings I do not remember nor are they significantly effective or even harmful.
Shit like that, imo, is adult rage and punishment, not learning or training. If anything, it's a bit like getting off the hook. Obviously a dog isn't gonna think like that, but you don't need to be mean to your dog.
I’ve never met a woman who enjoyed a little rough play in the bedroom who wasn’t spanked as a kid. Conservatives, take heed.I don't believe spanking or similar punishment works.
Good people who got spanked think it does, but then plenty of bad people got spanked and it didn't do a damn thing, right?
I did get a few spankings or similar, but when I think back the worst punishments were self-induced. The shame I felt when I called my dad something pretty nasty is something I can still remember to this day. It took me ages to try and mend that one and it's still with me. Probably spent 5 or 6 hours before I ventured back to see what the state of play was. Spankings I do not remember nor are they significantly effective or even harmful.
Shit like that, imo, is adult rage and punishment, not learning or training. If anything, it's a bit like getting off the hook. Obviously a dog isn't gonna think like that, but you don't need to be mean to your dog.
Dude, I don’t know where to start, but no way this guy loves America as much as you claim he does. Besides being from Turkey and stating that while he was growing up, he saw from a close geographical aspect, the results of America’s aggression and hunger for never ending wars. He has repeatedly called hamas freedom fighters and said he didn’t care if rapes happened on oct 7 because it wouldn’t change his viewpoint on hamas and that “no resistance is perfect.” He gushes over luigi and blm/antifa and claims that they were right to escalate their protests to violence because they were following the steps from protests-civil disobedience-riots because the powers that be weren’t listening And made no changes while police continue to murder black and brown people. He is a rabid socialist and hates capitalism despite being very wealthy thanks to that system. He said he abhors violence but said that Americans should kill Rick Scott and that liberals should paint the streets with republican’s guts-specifically when talking about homelessness and property owners that refuse to either sell or rent out empty apartments to the homeless.
For someone that “loves America” so much, boy does he hate a lot of things about it and wants to change everything about it.
Sure, he enjoys the freedoms that America provides which he would not have in one of his beloved muslim strongholds such as the freedom of speech or having to watch as women have no rights, living under sharia law, actual political violence-hell, he said he can’t ever go back to Turkey because he would be jailed, etc.
Which takes me back to his 9/11 comments. For someone that repeatedly gets banned and suspended on his own platform of twitch for violent comments when he claims he abhors violence, I am not buying his reformed opinions on what he initially said about 9/11 or the “brave mujadin soldier” or saying hamas are resistance fighters and I am sure there is a shit ton more I could dig up about him. He’s a wealthy cunt that claims he wants to dismantle the government and systems to have more equitable outcomes-including praising fidel castro for how he used force to take land from the wealthy but the second they knock on his dooor-I bet he would say “well, I don’t mean my wealth.”
And you’re right, we’re simply not going to agree on the n word. I agree it’s one of the most taboo words in society, but I disagree that a black oerson can call me whatever they want and I can basically call them anything but that.
Again, I never would use the word-not because of the history behind it- the main reason is because I don’t want to ever be associated with the people that use it and that’s an image thing and class thing for me. Whether it’s with the hard r or not, I think trash people use that word-both black and white-it any other race. But at the end of the day, it’s just a word. And when someone insults me (and the n word is just an insult same as cracka) their intention is to cause pain and get some reaction out of me-that’s what I look at-the intent behind the word and I think that should be condemned more than a specific word. If there was a word for white people that had the equivalency, black people would use it despite their bitching and preaching about n.
agree i have raised many pitbulls and never used a shock collar...First, fuck Hasan Piker. If you like this dude: evaluate your influences in life.
Secondly, fuck shock collars. Positive reinforcement is the way to go. If you can’t be patient with a living being, you don’t deserve to be its steward. A dog should live with you in a symbiotic relationship. I hate those things.
He's the most prominent progressive speaker on YouTube
Dammit Koya would you just go sit down!?So I am a authority on the issue then ? Good. Seriously the dog doesn't look in pain at all.
This is why I didn't waste my time replying to your earlier critique.
You've drawn your line in the sand, and that's fine. I just hope that eventually you take the time to learn more about Democratic Socialism, because right now you have a distinctly McCarthy-era position. Anyone who complains "socialists" and "Marxists" shouldn't be rich doesn't understand either of those things. He advocates for higher fair taxation to support a better social safety net, which is why Republicans hate him so much.
He hasn't "reformed" his opinion, he clarified it for the larger audience. I agree with him on it completely, by the way, do you think I also hate America? Deserve was the wrong word, but I knew immediately what he meant because I'm not an idiot, and he said it to a small, select audience who also knew what he meant. It was captured and amplified to a larger audience so that people who didn't understand would lose their shit.
The CIA has been using insurgents for decades and this time it came back to roost. This is why I have pushed so hard for investment in soft power for so long; Trump just gutted America's soft power initiatives, so it's going to get much worse before it can get better. China is moving in hard to replace that vacuum, so not only are you getting weaker your ideological enemy is getting much, much stronger.
If you abandon soft power you have to rein in the CIA and pull back your military umbrella, or else you make it far too easy to paint America as an "evil empire".
These are the kinds of discussions Hasan has and I'm glad he has them, I just wish more people would listen.