Crime Scumbag Hasan Piker shocks his dog to keep her on screen on his stream.

[SamuraiBro]

Imagine liking Hasan Piker and respecting anything he has to say. Dude is a fucking retard. You’d have to be a cuck like Idubbbz to enjoy this kinda shit or take it seriously.

 

[SamuraiBro]

Oh wait there’s people in this thread who actually like Hasan and respect his politics AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

 

[nhbbear]

he's not one to call for violence really ever, even when it's defensible. also he did absolutely nothing to his dog, so idk. i guess, just be mad about made-up stuff. that's typical of most facebook boomers.

Not a boomer, twat

 

[BudKing8806]

The issue I have is the people that immediately kinda/sorta said it was okay were all right wingers.

And most left wingers said you shouldn't use shock collars period.

Then it devolved more along party lines.

Guys who said "it's okay to use shock collars" suddenly condemned them, while lefties generally started saying "well, maybe it's okay".

This is so dumb.

You're either against shock collars or you're not.

I am. They're not a training tool. If you can't train a dog without one, don't have a dog. You can't punish a dog because you wanted a dog. Period.

They are a training tool. Your opinion doesn't change reality lol. Was this guy as ass for using it on his dog for no reason? Yes.

 

[IanEdwards]

Dude, I don’t know where to start, but no way this guy loves America as much as you claim he does. Besides being from Turkey and stating that while he was growing up, he saw from a close geographical aspect, the results of America’s aggression and hunger for never ending wars. He has repeatedly called hamas freedom fighters and said he didn’t care if rapes happened on oct 7 because it wouldn’t change his viewpoint on hamas and that “no resistance is perfect.”

What would someone's view of Hamas have to do with their love or otherwise for America? there's a lot of conflation in this post, quite a bit of which seems to just add up to 'leftists by definition can't love their country*', but this bit in particular is a bad conflation seemingly of US and Israeli interests.


* there's this weird double standard where when 'leftists' are in any way critical of their country they must hate it, meanwhile the likes of Farage in the UK and Trump use incredibly negative language talking about how their countries are on the verge of falling apart, and yet they are super-patriots.

the results of America’s aggression and hunger for never ending wars.
The orginal US 'leftist' was a guy named Eugene Debs. Great man, probably fought harder for the working man than anyone in US history. Spoke out against the involvement in WW1 and was prosecuted for it. Made some great points in his trial speeches.
Renouncing the district attorney's patriotism, Debs invoked another model. Patriotism, he argued, meant more than shedding blood and upholding law. As manifested in American history, patriotism meant defending sacred principles and resisting tyranny and oppression, often in defiance of the law. The court of King George III had branded America's Founding Fathers criminals and traitors, Debs reminded the jury. "Isn't it strange," he remarked, "that we Socialists stand almost alone today in upholding and defending the Constitution of the United States."
Debs was the kind of patriot who believed in taking the supposed unique promise of the US at its word, and tried holding the country (mostly, the bosses' class) to account for it

I'm not even sure that denouncing US interventionism/wars by definition precludes someone from being a patriot, or means by definition they hate America.

I'm for damn sure not certain that leaders are 'patriotic' in making war on foundations of absolute bullshit.
Was LBJ 'patriotic' in ginning up the bullshit that was the Gulf of Tonkin incident so tens of thousands of poor kids would die in Vietnam whilst the likes of Trump could evade the draft?


Was GWB 'patriotic' for making war on Iraq based on total lies? recall what people were called if they opposed this bullshit? Dixie Chicks and so on, unpatriotic bitches?

Its weird how these cunts end up being the cause of the deaths of thousands, tens of thousands, of mostly poor american kids, and yet they are the supposed patriots and the people who oppose this shit are the ones who are unpatriotic.

the two biggest wars US committed to in the last 60 years were based on bullshit, but its the dudes who point this out that hate America?

Man, you can miss me out with that 'poor men dying over rich men's lies whilst other rich men get richer making military kit and selling oil' bullshit

 

[IanEdwards]

just to restate concisely the really important bit of that, thinking Hamas are freedom fighters is in no way mutually exclusive to being a patriot of any other country than Israel.

 

[IanEdwards]

I bet if most average MAGAs were asked to name the biggest patriot who has been president since the 1990s they would immediately say Bush and Trump. Two draft dodgers, one of whom started a war based on lies so thousands of kids would die and many more would be maimed for life, all so the likes of Halliburton and General Electric could make bank.

patriotism the American way. opposing that means you must hate America? miss me with that bullshit

 

[Anewt]

can't believe i'm also among the ones keeping this shit alive after coming out against it. @Fox by the Sea btfo
but

Well that sums it up. Hes a retard. Hes absolutely clueless about how to properly train and manage dogs and looks for shortcuts.

If anyone thinks it wasnt a shock collar still... its impressive blind loyalty




you should never pull a dog's tail for training or any other reason, as it is an extension of their spine and can cause serious, permanent injury, pain, and aggression. A dog's tail is a sensitive area with nerves, muscles, and vertebrae, and pulling can lead to issues like spinal injury, dislocation, chronic pain, and a fear of being touched in that area.

 

[Siver!]

They are a training tool. Your opinion doesn't change reality lol. Was this guy as ass for using it on his dog for no reason? Yes.

No reason?

He was "training" it, no?

It's life should be to sit sadly and quietly like an ornament, something you can achieve with that mind of "training tool".

Lol, no training tool can imprison another creature like that, only a device aimed at punishing can do that.

There's a world of difference between punishment and training, though I accept not everyone is intelligent enough to see the difference and many STILL believe it's the same thing.

 

[Siver!]

There is some nuance to this.

I’ll make an analogy, some people say that spanking is bad, and I’ll say that it’s not truly a black-and-white thing.

If a kid is angry and curses out their grandparents, and then he receives a spanking, I would say that that is warranted.

If a kid is forced to sit in the corner of the room for four hours straight, and then tries to sneak out when no one is looking, and then gets spanked because they are caught trying to sneak out of the corner of the room, I would say that that is cruel and unusual punishment, not just the spanking, but for being forced to sit in one spot for four hours.

The two scenarios were spanking is involved is completely different.

I don't believe spanking or similar punishment works.

Good people who got spanked think it does, but then plenty of bad people got spanked and it didn't do a damn thing, right?

I did get a few spankings or similar, but when I think back the worst punishments were self-induced. The shame I felt when I called my dad something pretty nasty is something I can still remember to this day. It took me ages to try and mend that one and it's still with me. Probably spent 5 or 6 hours before I ventured back to see what the state of play was. Spankings I do not remember nor are they significantly effective or even harmful.

Shit like that, imo, is adult rage and punishment, not learning or training. If anything, it's a bit like getting off the hook. Obviously a dog isn't gonna think like that, but you don't need to be mean to your dog.

 

[Crazy Source]

They are a training tool. Your opinion doesn't change reality lol. Was this guy as ass for using it on his dog for no reason? Yes.

I think their best use is as an invisible fence. Once the dog knows not to go beyond a certain point they stop doing it and don't get shocked anymore. It saves doggy lives.

 

[BudKing8806]

No reason?

He was "training" it, no?

It's life should be to sit sadly and quietly like an ornament, something you can achieve with that mind of "training tool".

Lol, no training tool can imprison another creature like that, only a device aimed at punishing can do that.

There's a world of difference between punishment and training, though I accept not everyone is intelligent enough to see the difference and many STILL believe it's the same thing.

I don't consider what he did to be training. It was indeed used to punish this dog and get it to stay in one spot for his little stream. Shock collars are meant to be used along with other training methods and can be very useful. I have a wireless fence for my dog because he likes to wander. I could keep him in a 12x12 pin all day while I work or I can let him roam 10 acres or so of my property with the collar. Which do you think my dog prefers?

 

[The_Renaissance]

I don't believe spanking or similar punishment works.

Good people who got spanked think it does, but then plenty of bad people got spanked and it didn't do a damn thing, right?

I did get a few spankings or similar, but when I think back the worst punishments were self-induced. The shame I felt when I called my dad something pretty nasty is something I can still remember to this day. It took me ages to try and mend that one and it's still with me. Probably spent 5 or 6 hours before I ventured back to see what the state of play was. Spankings I do not remember nor are they significantly effective or even harmful.

Shit like that, imo, is adult rage and punishment, not learning or training. If anything, it's a bit like getting off the hook. Obviously a dog isn't gonna think like that, but you don't need to be mean to your dog.

I got spanked and deserved it every time, I was quite unruly for a stage of my childhood. But man.....the bolded part. I'll never forget saying something nasty to my dad when I was about 16, he got in my face a little but then suddenly just left. During this he said something about me leaving the following day. In anger obviously. I'll never forget that night, my mother coming into my room and saying "dad is gutted about what you just said". Following morning he comes in and says you don't need to leave and we made up but I still think about that incident and I'm 43. I've never spoken a word out of turn to my parents since. It really troubled me that I'd said something like that to the best man I'll ever know.

 

[Mock Artwork]

First, fuck Hasan Piker. If you like this dude: evaluate your influences in life.

Secondly, fuck shock collars. Positive reinforcement is the way to go. If you can’t be patient with a living being, you don’t deserve to be its steward. A dog should live with you in a symbiotic relationship. I hate those things.

 

[DoctorTaco]

I don't believe spanking or similar punishment works.

Good people who got spanked think it does, but then plenty of bad people got spanked and it didn't do a damn thing, right?

I did get a few spankings or similar, but when I think back the worst punishments were self-induced. The shame I felt when I called my dad something pretty nasty is something I can still remember to this day. It took me ages to try and mend that one and it's still with me. Probably spent 5 or 6 hours before I ventured back to see what the state of play was. Spankings I do not remember nor are they significantly effective or even harmful.

Shit like that, imo, is adult rage and punishment, not learning or training. If anything, it's a bit like getting off the hook. Obviously a dog isn't gonna think like that, but you don't need to be mean to your dog.

I’ve never met a woman who enjoyed a little rough play in the bedroom who wasn’t spanked as a kid. Conservatives, take heed.

 

[Loiosh]

Dude, I don’t know where to start, but no way this guy loves America as much as you claim he does. Besides being from Turkey and stating that while he was growing up, he saw from a close geographical aspect, the results of America’s aggression and hunger for never ending wars. He has repeatedly called hamas freedom fighters and said he didn’t care if rapes happened on oct 7 because it wouldn’t change his viewpoint on hamas and that “no resistance is perfect.” He gushes over luigi and blm/antifa and claims that they were right to escalate their protests to violence because they were following the steps from protests-civil disobedience-riots because the powers that be weren’t listening And made no changes while police continue to murder black and brown people. He is a rabid socialist and hates capitalism despite being very wealthy thanks to that system. He said he abhors violence but said that Americans should kill Rick Scott and that liberals should paint the streets with republican’s guts-specifically when talking about homelessness and property owners that refuse to either sell or rent out empty apartments to the homeless.

For someone that “loves America” so much, boy does he hate a lot of things about it and wants to change everything about it.
Sure, he enjoys the freedoms that America provides which he would not have in one of his beloved muslim strongholds such as the freedom of speech or having to watch as women have no rights, living under sharia law, actual political violence-hell, he said he can’t ever go back to Turkey because he would be jailed, etc.


Which takes me back to his 9/11 comments. For someone that repeatedly gets banned and suspended on his own platform of twitch for violent comments when he claims he abhors violence, I am not buying his reformed opinions on what he initially said about 9/11 or the “brave mujadin soldier” or saying hamas are resistance fighters and I am sure there is a shit ton more I could dig up about him. He’s a wealthy cunt that claims he wants to dismantle the government and systems to have more equitable outcomes-including praising fidel castro for how he used force to take land from the wealthy but the second they knock on his dooor-I bet he would say “well, I don’t mean my wealth.”

And you’re right, we’re simply not going to agree on the n word. I agree it’s one of the most taboo words in society, but I disagree that a black oerson can call me whatever they want and I can basically call them anything but that.

Again, I never would use the word-not because of the history behind it- the main reason is because I don’t want to ever be associated with the people that use it and that’s an image thing and class thing for me. Whether it’s with the hard r or not, I think trash people use that word-both black and white-it any other race. But at the end of the day, it’s just a word. And when someone insults me (and the n word is just an insult same as cracka) their intention is to cause pain and get some reaction out of me-that’s what I look at-the intent behind the word and I think that should be condemned more than a specific word. If there was a word for white people that had the equivalency, black people would use it despite their bitching and preaching about n.

This is why I didn't waste my time replying to your earlier critique.

You've drawn your line in the sand, and that's fine. I just hope that eventually you take the time to learn more about Democratic Socialism, because right now you have a distinctly McCarthy-era position. Anyone who complains "socialists" and "Marxists" shouldn't be rich doesn't understand either of those things. He advocates for higher fair taxation to support a better social safety net, which is why Republicans hate him so much.

He hasn't "reformed" his opinion, he clarified it for the larger audience. I agree with him on it completely, by the way, do you think I also hate America? Deserve was the wrong word, but I knew immediately what he meant because I'm not an idiot, and he said it to a small, select audience who also knew what he meant. It was captured and amplified to a larger audience so that people who didn't understand would lose their shit.

The CIA has been using insurgents for decades and this time it came back to roost. This is why I have pushed so hard for investment in soft power for so long; Trump just gutted America's soft power initiatives, so it's going to get much worse before it can get better. China is moving in hard to replace that vacuum, so not only are you getting weaker your ideological enemy is getting much, much stronger.

If you abandon soft power you have to rein in the CIA and pull back your military umbrella, or else you make it far too easy to paint America as an "evil empire".

These are the kinds of discussions Hasan has and I'm glad he has them, I just wish more people would listen.

 

[Red Dragoniop]

First, fuck Hasan Piker. If you like this dude: evaluate your influences in life.

Secondly, fuck shock collars. Positive reinforcement is the way to go. If you can’t be patient with a living being, you don’t deserve to be its steward. A dog should live with you in a symbiotic relationship. I hate those things.

agree i have raised many pitbulls and never used a shock collar...

 

[SKYNET]

He's the most prominent progressive speaker on YouTube

 

[High Test With da Best]

So I am a authority on the issue then ? Good. Seriously the dog doesn't look in pain at all.

Dammit Koya would you just go sit down!?

Jk, I was joking initially too as if you were Hassan posting as the dog saying "I'm ok erryone, my master is the best eva!"

 

[nhbbear]

This is why I didn't waste my time replying to your earlier critique.

You've drawn your line in the sand, and that's fine. I just hope that eventually you take the time to learn more about Democratic Socialism, because right now you have a distinctly McCarthy-era position. Anyone who complains "socialists" and "Marxists" shouldn't be rich doesn't understand either of those things. He advocates for higher fair taxation to support a better social safety net, which is why Republicans hate him so much.

He hasn't "reformed" his opinion, he clarified it for the larger audience. I agree with him on it completely, by the way, do you think I also hate America? Deserve was the wrong word, but I knew immediately what he meant because I'm not an idiot, and he said it to a small, select audience who also knew what he meant. It was captured and amplified to a larger audience so that people who didn't understand would lose their shit.

The CIA has been using insurgents for decades and this time it came back to roost. This is why I have pushed so hard for investment in soft power for so long; Trump just gutted America's soft power initiatives, so it's going to get much worse before it can get better. China is moving in hard to replace that vacuum, so not only are you getting weaker your ideological enemy is getting much, much stronger.

If you abandon soft power you have to rein in the CIA and pull back your military umbrella, or else you make it far too easy to paint America as an "evil empire".

These are the kinds of discussions Hasan has and I'm glad he has them, I just wish more people would listen.

Yeah, we’re simply not going to agree on either issue. You’re obviously a fan of his, I clearly, am not.