Scored 30-26 for Khamzat

[Paul E Gensinger]

The first was complete domination and then the second and third he slowed down big time but I felt he still won. Especially with the takedowns. More importantly what did Usman do?

What did Usman do? He outstruck him.

 

[Harlekin]

Leaning more towards 29-28. But A MD for Khamzat is ok.
10-8, 1 round for Usman and 1 round a draw.

Usman did more damage in the 2nd and 3rd
Khamzat just had a lot of control that killed his cardio

Old injured Usman wins a 5 rounder though and without short notice he does, too.

 

[Psychojoe86]

Why did you score rounds 2 and 3 for Khamzat? He got outstruck and Usman did more damage, plus Khamzat did almost nothing with the takedowns, round 2 he had zero ground strikes, round 3 he had 1.

Khamzat landed strikes on Usman after taking him down to atone for the difference in the standup, which wasn’t even much

round 2 was the closest round so Usman’s best chance at winning a round was there

for Usman to WIN he needed to get lucky judging in all 3 rounds. Too much of a long shot imo

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Khamzat landed strikes on Usman after taking him down to stone for the difference in the standup, which wasn’t even much

round 2 was the closest round so Usman’s best chance at winning a round was there

for Usman to WIN he needed to get lucky judging in all 3 rounds. Too much of a long shot imo

Oh I don't think Usman won, I think the one judge got it right 28-28. Not sure what you're saying in that first sentence. There were no ground strikes in round 2 and only 1 in round 3. Khamazt had more control time in round 3 than he did in round 2 but he also took more strikes in round 3 than he did in round 2.

 

[Psychojoe86]

Oh I don't think Usman won, I think the one judge got it right 28-28. Not sure what you're saying in that first sentence. There were no ground strikes in round 2 and only 1 in round 3. Khamazt had more control time in round 3 than he did in round 2 but he also took more strikes in round 3 than he did in round 2.

Sorry I had a typo, I fixed it

fair enough, and that’s fine cause Usman did very well when it was all said and done. And khamzat is much more clearly revealed to be a blitz fighter/sprinter and has yet to learn how to level out his offense in the fight as a whole.

5 round fights could be a huge weakness for khamzat going forward so he needs to undertake big training to improve that

 

[deman]

Is that what we call maintaining a dominant position now?

"Maintaining a dominant position". Christ. This is a fucking fight, not a grappling match, or a police restraining course.

If some white guy were fighting like this he'd be getting dumped on, not pushed to the moon eeking out majority decision wins fighting blown up LWs & WWs.

 

[takuma]

I feel the takedowns were the biggest things in round 2 and 3. Striking was negligible.

 

[Memnok]

"Maintaining a dominant position". Christ. This is a fucking fight, not a grappling match, or a police restraining course.

If some white guy were fighting like this he'd be getting dumped on, not pushed to the moon eeking out majority decision wins fighting blown up LWs & WWs.

Yes, and in a fight you win if you can hold the other person down so that you can hit them but they can't hit you. If "some white guy" did this to Usman I would be just as impressed. GSP basically built his entire career around doing this.

 

[HatKick]

I scored it 29-28 Khamzat

But it's crazy, you could score this fight in a variety of different ways for either guy or as a draw and they're all valid. All you can say for sure is Khamzat won round 1 while rounds 2 & 3 were close. Then it's a matter of what you value more (ground control vs shots landed) and whether you think the first round was 10-9 or 10-8.

 

[DelanoRunnymede]

Round 1 was 100% Khamzat and maybe a 10-8. Round 2 and 3 could have gone either way so I don’t think 30-26 is a crazy score but neither is 29-28, or 28-28.

 

[AstralPanda]

I feel the takedowns were the biggest things in round 2 and 3. Striking was negligible.

This

The magnitude of dominating usman on the ground holds infinitely more weight than anything usman did.

 

[pamirec]

10-8 first round, second seemed like a draw, third could’ve gone either way.

 

[ryun253]

Rd 1 10-8 Khamzat
Rd 2 10-9 Usman
Rd 3 10-9 Khamzat

 

[GOATtalks]

28-28

 

[balkanbomber85]

I had it 29-28 for Usman because the first round, as dominant as it was, was no 10-8 in my eyes because in no moment did Khamzat came close to finish Usman. It was a total domination of positions but he was never really close to a finish.

Second and third did to Usman because he was the aggressor on the feet and defended some takedowns and Khamzat did absolutely nothing once he took him down. I have to say I was maybe a little biased by the decsion from the first fight and was like "ok, they dont count ground control so Khamzat has done nothing else in the 2nd and 3rd".

 

[Castiglione]

No matter what anyone says it was a clear-cut 30-26.

 

[surgeyou1]

If Khamzat was closer to a finish or a sub but he wasn't for a 10-8. Aljo didn't get 10-8 rounds for backpack mode.

29-28 for either guy is fair. Usman waited too late in the 3rd to turn it on. Coin toss round.

 

[Castiglione]

Yeah I had it 30-26 as well.

 

[HeffDoesWant]

Draw

Despite doing almost no damage I thought 10-8 for the first. But I prefer much more nuance in scoring than the mma community.

The next 2 rounds 10-9 usman.


But I did have to wonder if anyone can name a 10-8 round with less damage. I certainly can't.

 

[HeffDoesWant]

The first round was definitely a 10-8. He dominated position the entire time and Kamaru landed like 0 significant strikes. What people historically scored 10-8 is actually 10-7. 10-8 by the rules just means a round that wasn't close. 10-9 is a close round according to the rules. Everyone keeps forgetting.

Everyone knows it, but the judges never do it.