Scientists Create Alien DNA After 15 Years Of Work

[Rusk]

Nope, God creates stuff. All humans do is play with and manipulate things that have already been created.

nah, humans create new stuff all the time.

 

[Seano]

Nope, God creates stuff. All humans do is play with and manipulate things that have already been created.

Explain the VCR then.

 

[BJ@LW&WW]

Sooo, I don't get it. Are they making a super E.Coli strand? Isn't E.Coli supposed to be quite dangerous?

e coli has long been a model organism for scientific study. the strains used in laboratories are extremely crippled in terms of infectious ability. Most uses of e. coli in the lab allow for the lowest regulated level of biosafety standards.

I'm assuming the strain of ecoli they have created actually under performs in terms of fitness compared to wild type e. coli.

 

[tkotom]

If famine, war and atrocities committed by humans relate to free will where do you chalk up natural disasters and pandemics?

Will of the god(s).

 

[M3t4tr0n]

Explain the VCR then.

The VCR is unexplainable!

 

[TheComebackKid]

I said nothing that would give you grounds to make such a comment. You're just being defensively hostile as per usual when people mention you in a thread that somehow links to religion.

Your response to my free will comment gave me such grounds. We dont have to fight about it tho. No one would expect a Godless person to understand the things of God. It doesnt make you a bad or dumb person.

 

[TheComebackKid]

Explain the VCR then.

And there you have it, God has been debunked!

 

[sickc0d3r]

No problem I believe they are saying that they made a new strain of E. coli that can live without without the same DNA as what is required to sustain life on earth. I believe that is why they call it alien DNA? Essentially they created a new life form that can be used to test new type of drugs and treatments?

OK, gotcha, thanks.

 

[sickc0d3r]

I don't think so. What they have done is pretty cool and impressive but yeah if they were actually creating life from non-living matter then that would be a game changer.

You're right, it would be much bigger news than a new dna strand I think.

 

[sickc0d3r]

All life on earth has two-pairs of DNA. They created a life form with three-pairs. Well, they just "altered" an already living life form but they proved that it can live with two extra types of DNA, and that doesn't EXIST on this planet. So it is alien.

Thanks, that's the distinction I was missing... creating a life form is not quite the same as creating life.
I wonder what applications they have in mind, or if it is just a case of "let's see if we can do it".

Edit: I probably should have multi-quoted those 3 responses... I suck at this.

 

[Chappi]

Creepy and exciting. Maybe we can have flying horses since its taking so dam long for flying cars to arrive. Stupid Back to the Future ll lied!

Or grow wings ourself. :icon_chee

 

[Pupi]

... and the devil, homosexuality, cancer, marijuana and Justin Beiber.

Hey man, leave marijuana out of this! Lol

 

[Pupi]

You were spouting your usual nonsense regarding god. I merely pointed out that if god created "sruff" he then also had to have engineered famine, Nigerian kidnappings, mass murder, rape of babies and other things.

Either god created these things or it did not.

Not sure what you're rambling on about.

What if he did? So what?

 

[tkotom]

What if he did? So what?

If he did create famine then he created famine.

That's what I'm saying.

It was not I who needed to form a hasty defense of god's indifference to or unwillingness to help with suffering around the world but fellow poster, Comeback Kid.

 

[Pupi]

If famine, war and atrocities committed by humans relate to free will where do you chalk up natural disasters and pandemics?

You don't believe that "natural" disasters and pandemics can be created by humans in a lab or that our technology can influence earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tidal waves, etc?

 

[Pupi]

If he did create famine then he created famine.

That's what I'm saying.

It was not I who needed to form a hasty defense of god's indifference to or unwillingness to help with suffering around the world but fellow poster, Comeback Kid.

Why should God help out relieving the suffering in this world? Are we so useless and ungovernable as a people that we require help with everything we do solely to avoid responsibility for our actions and ultimately blame someone else? God is an observer. Why should he constantly intervene and mess around with his experiment? Sounds counterproductive to what he intended.

 

[tkotom]

Why should God help out relieving the suffering in this world? Are we so useless and ungovernable as a people that we require help with everything we do solely to avoid responsibility for our actions and ultimately blame someone else? God is an observer. Why should he constantly intervene and mess around with his experiment? Sounds counterproductive to what he intended.

Red herring.

The dichotomy which I presented was both absolute and valid.

If god is real and if god created space and time then god watches with indifference or chooses not to help the human species when they need it.

God is either powerless, evil or non existent. Take your pick.

I don't mean to be harsh but this is the reality.. you cannot chalk it down to "god has a plan" because that is a grotesque and immoral argument by modern standards.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

You don't believe that "natural" disasters and pandemics can be created by humans in a lab or that our technology can influence earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tidal waves, etc?

Not sure if you are joking or not...

but assuming you are not, it is definitely in the realm of possibility.

However, I think we can safely assume that most earthquakes, Tsunamis were of natural origin. Unless of course, you have evidence to the contrary.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

Red herring.

The dichotomy which I presented was both absolute and valid.

If god is real and if god created space and time then god watches with indifference or chooses not to help the human species when they need it.

God is either powerless, evil or non existent. Take your pick.

I don't mean to be harsh but this is the reality.. you cannot chalk it down to "god has a plan" because that is a grotesque and immoral argument by modern standards.

Wait, you can't see how the Holocaust, and Rwandan Genocide couldn't be a part of a greater good?

 

[Pupi]

Red herring.

The dichotomy which I presented was both absolute and valid.

If god is real and if god created space and time then god watches with indifference or chooses not to help the human species when they need it.

God is either powerless, evil or non existent. Take your pick.

I don't mean to be harsh but this is the reality.. you cannot chalk it down to "god has a plan" because that is a grotesque and immoral argument by modern standards.

Why should he help though? Lol that makes no sense. Should a parent always help their kids when they are in trouble and need help? No, because the kid will never learn and will always expect help and an easy way out. We are not powerless and I believe that we are sentient enough to handle our own problems without the need to require help from God.

Unless his entire creation is at risk, why should God intervene in any affair? Why does that make him evil? Why should God be held to the same moral standards that we have? People that think like you believe that humans are the epitome of creation and that Earth is this unique biosphere in the vast universe. Why, in your eyes, does our planet and our existence take precedence over observing the entire universe?