Media Ryan Garcia says he would ‘destroy’ Sean O’Malley in MMA

[Simple Southerner]

 

[USA!USA!]

I am not an O'Malley fan really at all.. I respect his skills but personality wise the guy is a turd.

That being said, Garcia probably has 5 seconds to land a KO before his leg is fucked and/or he is taken down. Sean would give him a new perspective on life in the cage.

 

[Fatback96]

I don’t care for Sean but there’s a reason boxers avoid coming to MMA. 1-2 leg kicks and their entire heavy lead leg stance is compromised.

 

[Elvis.]

I love how we’ve entered a time period in martial arts that people have either forgotten or were all supposed to pretend that the guy with the Bjj brown belt fighting the guy with no grappling experience doesn’t have a massive advantage

 

[Conor Strickland]

12k/12k - that's what Dana will throw at him lol.

Don't forget the 50k bonus if it's fight of the night or performance of the night

 

[ComfortablyNumb55]

Oh STFU kid.

Can't even dominate your own sport.

 

[GordonMMARamsey]

But can he beat a Navy SEAL if they're boxing?

 

[Pechan]

These boxers only worry about grappling, conditioning your legs to give and receive leg kicks is as importan imo, specially when fighting strikers like Sean.

 

[blaseblase]

What this says to me is that he’s already accepted and is ok with losing for money in his career. Which is not a great sign if you plan on being a legitimate competitor in your sport.

It's a one time gimmick fight that couldn't headline a ppv, I don't see anyone paying him what he is getting in boxing.

 

[Khaosan]

Read this as Ryan Gracie at first and was super confused lol.

 

[Mujeriego]

boxers have a really good track record of never setting foot in the octagon. much more likely we’d see sean boxing garcia in a ring.

Arturo Szpilka is now 3-0 in MMA and Krzystof Glowacki is 1-0 in MMA. Both were former boxers, Glowacki was a former World Champion.
Dillian Whyte went 1-0 in MMA destroying some guy in 12 secs.
These happen but you guys never hear about them because the MMA Inferiority Complex also known as (M.I.C), will try their best to move threads, delete posts, misdirect, what ever they need do to make you believe that that silly GI you're wearing is practical and that if you pull guard on these 5 guys on this sidewalk, they're gonna be in deep shit.
And they will be, when they're stomping your little ass out.

 

[that Indian]

Unfortunately, this is the world we are living in. A generation of 'adults' who believe that their worth is measured by how much attention they can garner, and who realize all to well that words no longer carry consequences.

 

[Hagler]

MMA can have Ryan Garcia. My pleasure.

 

[that Indian]

Arturo Szpilka is now 3-0 in MMA and Krzystof Glowacki is 1-0 in MMA. Both were former boxers, Glowacki was a former World Champion.
Dillian Whyte went 1-0 in MMA destroying some guy in 12 secs.
These happen but you guys never hear about them because the MMA Inferiority Complex also known as (M.I.C), will try their best to move threads, delete posts, misdirect, what ever they need do to make you believe that that silly GI you're wearing is practical and that if you pull guard on these 5 guys on this sidewalk, they're gonna be in deep shit.
And they will be, when they're stomping your little ass out.

Great info, but we're not talking about street fighting!

MIC: In fact, Ray Mercer KO'd former UFC heavyweight champion Tim Slyvia in under a minute IIRC. But these quick KOs actually should be omitted from the data-set as they are outliers. Glowacki's MMA win was actually one of the least likely--a KO from full mount. That basically never, ever happens and certainly not to any fighter who is decent. In fights that get extended past 1 minute, what is the boxers winning percentage?

The early UFC comprehensively demonstrated that if you do not train in grappling, a one-dimension guy like Royce will submit you. I recently saw the so-called 'GWOAT' (who is a joke) Claressa Shields fight in MMA this past weekend. She looked like she never wrestled a day in her life. As a lifelong boxer who trained in wrestling for 2 years, I can personally tell you--wrestling is different. You have no idea how helpless you actually are until you wrestle with someone who actually knows what they are doing.

I really think its ridiculous that boxers even try to compare themselves to MMA fighters when they are specialists, not generalists, in fight science. And they should lean into that. I wouldn't want my cardiologist treating a bacterial infection, but I really don't want my primary care physician to be performing open heart surgery.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

boxers have a really good track record of never setting foot in the octagon. much more likely we’d see sean boxing garcia in a ring.

Why would they? There's more money in boxing than MMA. A lot more.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Great info, but we're not talking about street fighting!

MIC: In fact, Ray Mercer KO'd former UFC heavyweight champion Tim Slyvia in under a minute IIRC. But these quick KOs actually should be omitted from the data-set as they are outliers. Glowacki's MMA win was actually one of the least likely--a KO from full mount. That basically never, ever happens and certainly not to any fighter who is decent. In fights that get extended past 1 minute, what is the boxers winning percentage?

The early UFC comprehensively demonstrated that if you do not train in grappling, a one-dimension guy like Royce will submit you. I recently saw the so-called 'GWOAT' (who is a joke) Claressa Shields fight in MMA this past weekend. She looked like she never wrestled a day in her life. As a lifelong boxer who trained in wrestling for 2 years, I can personally tell you--wrestling is different. You have no idea how helpless you actually are until you wrestle with someone who actually knows what they are doing.

I really think its ridiculous that boxers even try to compare themselves to MMA fighters when they are specialists, not generalists, in fight science. And they should lean into that. I wouldn't want my cardiologist treating a bacterial infection, but I really don't want my primary care physician to be performing open heart surgery.

I think there are plenty of other professional boxers that are capable of KOing, or at least seriously hurting, an opponent from the bottom. Some of them don't need much space to generate power. Glowacki wasn't even a puncher by boxing standards and he managed it first try.

What we know about the data is that 99.99% of it consists of MMA fighters on bottom. Not professional boxers. Of that percentage only a tiny fraction have even tried to really hurt the guy on top with punches. I think we'll see it happen again when more boxers cross over to MMA.

 

[MotorCityCobra]

O malley would kill garcia easily.

But people mentioned the m.i.c. are only half right. The reality is knockout power and strength are deciding factors in most fights. Alot of heavyweight boxers can beat most ufc fighters and bjj black belts in "real fights" just due to physical advantages.

Literally random hobbyist martial artists with minor size advantage can beat alot of high level professional boxers in a fair "mma" fight. But certain boxers would have chance to win against anyone just due to their style. Especially as the weights go up.

I think it's just more nuanced then people think.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

O malley would kill garcia easily.

But people mentioned the m.i.c. are only half right. The reality is knockout power and strength are deciding factors in most fights. Alot of heavyweight boxers can beat most ufc fighters and bjj black belts in "real fights" just due to physical advantages.

Literally random hobbyist martial artists with minor size advantage can beat alot of high level professional boxers in a fair "mma" fight. But certain boxers would have chance to win against anyone just due to their style. Especially as the weights go up.

I think it's just more nuanced then people think.

O'Malley should win in an MMA fight but it doesn't mean that he necessarily would. If he chooses to stand with Garcia that could end very quickly. O'Malley is a complete striker which might give him a false sense of security. He'd have to batter Garcia's legs and avoid getting caught with return fire.

Garcia is already dangerous in 8 oz boxing gloves but he'd be even more dangerous in 4 oz MMA gloves. His hands would be even quicker and his punches would be harder and more accurate.

 

[Goutfather]

And they will be, when they're stomping your little ass out.

you sound pretty angry. don’t break your keyboard, tough guy.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

I can see Sean get hit a few times and just say fuck this and choke him out in 30 seconds. Sean's grappling is just ok against elite mma fighters but he's basically Khabib compared to Ryan.

You think Sean will still be conscious after he gets hit a few times by Garcia? Ryan will only have to hit him once with that left hook or his straight right hand. You know how many submission wins Sean has in his entire career? One. He's purely a standup fighter. A showman. The kind that will likely want to stand with anyone. He's that confident in his striking.

Can Sean grapple? Yeah, he just sucks at it. Especially at wrestling which is why we never see him using it in MMA. He recognizes this.

“I came down to Arizona. Literally for 10 days, every time I left practice I was crying.

When it came to wrestling, I didn’t know how to fu*king wrestle to save my life. Kickboxing I would do okay, I would do alright, but when it came to like grappling days… I had zero chance.

I would leave the gym fu*king crying.”

Sean O’Malley: “I Didn’t Know How To Fu*king Wrestle To Save My Life”