Russo: HHH worst booker I've ever seen

[GoldenAzazel]

But Kross is nowhere close to that level. Not everyone who gets clicks here and there for occasional shoot interviews gets a contract. It's not a free for all. For all the shit Kross talks about being held down or whatever, he doesn't back it up as a wrestler. He's simply not very good. He has an okay look, and that's about it. Boring on the mic, boring in the ring.

Should bring back Simon Gotch. He got loads of views on Youtube

 

[Based God]

He says he was lowballed. He implied they made him an offer that was lower than his old contract.

No wonder things got so awful. You've got a power couple middle management douchebags just under Vince.

They gave him an offer they felt he was worth, he chose not to take that offer. They then promoted both him and his book on the way out when they didn't have to. They could've shelved him when he chose not to sign the new deal. They instead kept him relevant on TV and PLE's including giving him a spot on the stadium show Summerslam 8 days before his contract expired. Kross got treated better on the way out then probably 99% of people who have ever worked there.

But the point is, he wasn't cut or released like people, including Vince Russo are insinuating. He chose to leave when they gave him an offer to stay.

"WWE/TKO bad" in a lot of instances, but I don't think Kross' situation is one of them.

 

[Based God]

Should bring back Simon Gotch. He got loads of views on Youtube

and now our algorithms are once again cursed.

"SIMON GOTCH BURIES ENZO AMORE" will still hit the algorithm after world wide apocalypse and only roaches and Twinkies are left on earth.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

I'm saying that any type of internet fandom a rassler gains should serve the "product" well, which is why I included Zack Ryder in the OP. HHH doesn't like wrestlers who can gain notoriety by themselves on the internet. He couldn't book himself well when he was part of DX, and he had to marry the boss' daughter for longevity in the business. I think when he sees that Kross/Knight/Rider can get themselves over, he gets insecure.

Their biggest star and most pushed wrestler by far under HHH is a guy that left the company to build his reputation, name and brand elsewhere (and smashed a HHH throne in the process) before coming back.

 

[SSgt Dickweed]

Their biggest star and most pushed wrestler by far under HHH is a guy that left the company to build his reputation, name and brand elsewhere (and smashed a HHH throne in the process) before coming back.

Cody didn't rejoin WWE when HHH was head of creative. Funny thing is Vince was the guy who greenlighted the Stardust idea which Cody hated.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Cody didn't rejoin WWE when HHH was head of creative. Funny thing is Vince was the guy who greenlighted the Stardust idea which Cody hated.

But he's always maintained his push while he's been head of creative.

I think HHH is a bit of a workrate guy, from what I've heard about his time at NXT he was generally booking people who could work there. If you look at the guys he's pushing as main eventers then again they're generally guys who can go in the ring a bit (and Solo Sikoa).

 

[Batjester]

Eh', I think Kross is more of an internet darling. They like what he says outside of the ring for the most part, but you could hear a mouse fart when he's wrestling. He's nowhere close to where LA Knight is, in terms of fandom.

I like Kross. I thought his NXT run was really good. When he can go against the "smaller" guys he looks like a monster. Problem is, when he got to the main roster he just blended in and there were a shit ton of guys who dwarfed him, so he couldn't really pull off the monster gimmick. Add in the fact that they didn't bring up Scarlett with him to start (huge fucking miss) and then you add on the gladiator outfit (WTF was Vince thinking there) and he was DOA.

I thought he started to gain some traction with the Sami stuff, but they never even really attempted to pay it off (that's on HHH).

End of the day he isn't as good as he thinks he is. Kinda like Ryback.

 

[Thrawn33]

Scarlet not being able to slut it up in WWEs more family friendly programming didn't help

 

[GtehMVP]

Attitude Era fan & Casual fan opinion -
Triple-H is one of the few people involved in WWE for three decades who is really hard to get a read on.

On one hand...he obviously is a political figure who wormed his way from just being an on-screen talent to be an off-screen shot-caller.
What is damn near unforgivable is how he betrayed and cheated on Chyna, which she never got over and spiraled into drug addiction and overdosing.

On the other hand... he seems to be a damn good off-screen shot-caller.
The last few years of WWE have been the absolute best since the Attitude Era.
Has he made some bad calls? Yeah. Who wouldn't in his position?

Its like every football fan wishes they were the GM of their favorite team, making all of the decisions and it'd be a guarantee the team would win the national championship, right?
Wrong. You're a fan. Chances are you might be able to manage a Wendys, but not a billion-dollar sports franchise.

It's the exact same situation here.
Oh Vince Russo thinks he's the worst booker ever?
Do we need to review his resume for his most brilliant decisions?
I'll summarize it with the two worst in both major organization he worked in.
WWF - Brawl For All
WCW - David Arquette becoming Heavyweight Champion.

If I were Triple-H I'd send Russo flowers for giving him the most sincere compliment he could have given him.

Yeah, Triple H was always Mr hot and cold for me, the ultimate B+ player. However, when he took over from Vince a few years ago, and up until this past WrestleMania, WWE hadn't been that awesome since the late 90's/early 2000's.

It's been all downhill since, with a few bright spots in between. We don't know the influence going on behind the scenes with TKO, so I can't put it all on Triple H, but he is head of creative isn't he? He must be making some big decisions.

I'm pretty sure he was on board with pushing that bum Jay Uso, and making Gunther tap out to him, what a waste of time, and detriment to his character. Just imagine how much more impact tapping Cena out would be if Gunther didn't tap to Jay.

Jay's push was the first big red flag, and probably something Triple H is equally responsible for, but Cena's heel run to good guy switch was the biggest flop. It really didn't help that the Rock never planned to show up at mania, but I don't think that was on Triple H. They had plans for Travis Scott as a wrestler/tag team thing, but even if that worked out, and Cody got some comeuppance for his cheap shot, It wouldn't have made things much better. Travis Scott sucks. Rock needed to be part of that storyline in some capacity. I think that was all on TKO though, as from what the Rock says (no pun intended lol) it was Ari who convinced him to be at Elimination chamber.

Anyway, I'm with you on Triple H being hard to read. He seemingly had the Midas touch for a bit, but 2025 has been a terrible year.

I'm glad the Cena retirement tour is finally over. I was looking forward to this masked man thing, even hoping it was Punk and Breaker double turn thing, but Austin Theory...

I think he has great potential if booked right, but as a big reveal...that deserves a retarded yawn

As for Punk, he needs a heel turn badly. He put out a great promo tonight, as he always can, but this title run has been lackluster.

 

[Excelsior]

Yeah, Triple H was always Mr hot and cold for me, the ultimate B+ player. However, when he took over from Vince a few years ago, and up until this past WrestleMania, WWE hadn't been that awesome since the late 90's/early 2000's.

It's been all downhill since, with a few bright spots in between. We don't know the influence going on behind the scenes with TKO, so I can't put it all on Triple H, but he is head of creative isn't he? He must be making some big decisions.

I'm pretty sure he was on board with pushing that bum Jay Uso, and making Gunther tap out to him, what a waste of time, and detriment to his character. Just imagine how much more impact tapping Cena out would be if Gunther didn't tap to Jay.

Jay's push was the first big red flag, and probably something Triple H is equally responsible for, but Cena's heel run to good guy switch was the biggest flop. It really didn't help that the Rock never planned to show up at mania, but I don't think that was on Triple H. They had plans for Travis Scott as a wrestler/tag team thing, but even if that worked out, and Cody got some comeuppance for his cheap shot, It wouldn't have made things much better. Travis Scott sucks. Rock needed to be part of that storyline in some capacity. I think that was all on TKO though, as from what the Rock says (no pun intended lol) it was Ari who convinced him to be at Elimination chamber.

Anyway, I'm with you on Triple H being hard to read. He seemingly had the Midas touch for a bit, but 2025 has been a terrible year.

I'm glad the Cena retirement tour is finally over. I was looking forward to this masked man thing, even hoping it was Punk and Breaker double turn thing, but Austin Theory...

I think he has great potential if booked right, but as a big reveal...that deserves a retarded yawn

As for Punk, he needs a heel turn badly. He put out a great promo tonight, as he always can, but this title run has been lackluster.

It would have been a lot better if he had been able to take the belt off Seth, which they'd been building towards for forever. A hastily thrown together program with Jey was starting off with a whimper. Even since then, though, there's been no fire in his reign.

 

[HereticBD]

Yeah, Triple H was always Mr hot and cold for me, the ultimate B+ player. However, when he took over from Vince a few years ago, and up until this past WrestleMania, WWE hadn't been that awesome since the late 90's/early 2000's.

It's been all downhill since, with a few bright spots in between. We don't know the influence going on behind the scenes with TKO, so I can't put it all on Triple H, but he is head of creative isn't he? He must be making some big decisions.

I'm pretty sure he was on board with pushing that bum Jay Uso, and making Gunther tap out to him, what a waste of time, and detriment to his character. Just imagine how much more impact tapping Cena out would be if Gunther didn't tap to Jay.

Jay's push was the first big red flag, and probably something Triple H is equally responsible for, but Cena's heel run to good guy switch was the biggest flop. It really didn't help that the Rock never planned to show up at mania, but I don't think that was on Triple H. They had plans for Travis Scott as a wrestler/tag team thing, but even if that worked out, and Cody got some comeuppance for his cheap shot, It wouldn't have made things much better. Travis Scott sucks. Rock needed to be part of that storyline in some capacity. I think that was all on TKO though, as from what the Rock says (no pun intended lol) it was Ari who convinced him to be at Elimination chamber.

Anyway, I'm with you on Triple H being hard to read. He seemingly had the Midas touch for a bit, but 2025 has been a terrible year.

I'm glad the Cena retirement tour is finally over. I was looking forward to this masked man thing, even hoping it was Punk and Breaker double turn thing, but Austin Theory...

I think he has great potential if booked right, but as a big reveal...that deserves a retarded yawn

As for Punk, he needs a heel turn badly. He put out a great promo tonight, as he always can, but this title run has been lackluster.

Jey Uso must be a tough one to book, because despite the internet chatter surrounding his lameness(which I totally agree with), the arenas absolutely explode when he comes to the ring, and his merch sales are crazy. I kind of feel bad for Uso, because he has done everything in his power to get over, but there's this unseen entity bringing him down and causing the bookers to second guess themselves.

 

[Excelsior]

Jey Uso must be a tough one to book, because despite the internet chatter surrounding his lameness(which I totally agree with), the arenas absolutely explode when he comes to the ring, and his merch sales are crazy. I kind of feel bad for Uso, because he has done everything in his power to get over, but there's this unseen entity bringing him down and causing the bookers to second guess themselves.

He could learn a couple more moves. I can't vouch for anyone else, but that would show me that he was at least trying.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Jey Uso must be a tough one to book, because despite the internet chatter surrounding his lameness(which I totally agree with), the arenas absolutely explode when he comes to the ring, and his merch sales are crazy. I kind of feel bad for Uso, because he has done everything in his power to get over, but there's this unseen entity bringing him down and causing the bookers to second guess themselves.

The unseen entity is his lack of wrestling ability.

 

[Aegon Spengler]

HHH is a rotten piece of shit but there are some that have been worse.

McMahon was both amazing and horrible depending on who was around him

 

[HereticBD]

The unseen entity is his lack of wrestling ability.

Ehh', he's a dime a dozen Samoan. No better or worse than the lot of them. Lots of kicks, splashes and butt slams. He can work. His personality is his biggest issue, I think. Not the worst on the mic, but he's just so damn bland. He found a gimmick that can at least hide it a bit, but once all the "Yeeting" ends and the arms stop waving up and down, you're not left with much.

 

[Thrawn33]

HHH is a rotten piece of shit but there are some that have been worse.

McMahon was both amazing and horrible depending on what day/hour/minute it was

Fixed for you.

Vince had to have been the most inconsistent person ever

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Ehh', he's a dime a dozen Samoan. No better or worse than the lot of them. Lots of kicks, splashes and butt slams. He can work. His personality is his biggest issue, I think. Not the worst on the mic, but he's just so damn bland. He found a gimmick that can at least hide it a bit, but once all the "Yeeting" ends and the arms stop waving up and down, you're not left with much.

His work is dogshit imo, it's a bit better hidden in tags but the dude is usually gassed from all the yeeting by the time the match even starts and has a dull moveset which incorporates the worst spear I've ever seen.

 

[HereticBD]

His work is dogshit imo, it's a bit better hidden in tags but the dude is usually gassed from all the yeeting by the time the match even starts and has a dull moveset which incorporates the worst spear I've ever seen.

Well, I don't think he's anything special, just not uniquely bad or anything. His work is a bit of an extension of lame personality though. You can be shitty on the mic, bit exceptional in the ring, or great on the mic and shitty in the ring. You can't be average at both.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Well, I don't think he's anything special, just not uniquely bad or anything. His work is a bit of an extension of lame personality though. You can be shitty on the mic, bit exceptional in the ring, or great on the mic and shitty in the ring. You can't be average at both.

He's just got over more for people enjoying yeeting than anything else imo.

In terms of other Samoans, you can't tell me you wouldn't rather watch Jacob Fatu than him surely?

 

[PRIDEWASBETTER]

His work is dogshit imo, it's a bit better hidden in tags but the dude is usually gassed from all the yeeting by the time the match even starts and has a dull moveset which incorporates the worst spear I've ever seen.

Funny enough, Jimmy looked awful last night. He made Jey look like HBK in there lol